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  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,860
    maybe
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
    Posts: 544
    Gareth007 wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Gareth007 wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Gareth007 wrote: »
    I don't understand why people really enjoyed QoS. I am a huge, huge bond fan, but I could easily see how it's one of the worst bond films of them all. There's so much in that film what made me hate it, from the poor directing, camera work, to disjointed scenes. I understand writing strike effected this movie, but it was so forgettable. The villian was the worst uninspiring villian in the entire franchise. So dull and forgettable. Even agent fields dead on the bed copied the scene form goldfinger. So unoriginal and rushed. Am I missing something here ? Q0S and die another day are the weakest two for me.

    The order of Daniel Craig films I personally find the best in order.

    Casino Royale - Still the best,
    Skyfall Comes close.
    Spectre - loved this as a guilty pleasure bond film. Feels like a bond film the most.
    QOS - forgettable in nearly every scene, apart from a few key scenes.

    Quantum of solace has one of the greatest car chases of all time.

    The opera sequence was fantastic.

    I loved that one scene where his credit card gets declined he says “Tell them I am going to Egypt.”


    Elevator scene where he takes out 5-6 agents like it’s nothing? I have never seen Bond ever do that in a film.

    The film has an exotic/different soundtrack also.

    I just think in general the movie is super unique it has its own style and it’s a fun movie.

    I have a hard time watching Skyfall 2-3 times a year but Qos I can watch every two months throughout the year.





    That's interesting. I just did not like the unique style it had. I found it not enjoyable due tothe poor camera work. That car chase was not thrilling due to the camera work for me, personally. I found the Spectre car chase better, as it was more unique and bondy. If you dont have a memorable or decent villian, then I dont think a bond film can be good. The villian has to be as good as 007, so they say, and that's not what Qos had. If I had to choose any memorable scenes from QoS, the only one that stands out to me is the flight scene. When I think of QoQ, I just remember the desert. I did like that aspect of it. I hated the sound track, was appalling if you ask me and felt rushed like the movie. Im glad you and others enjoyed it though, but it's certainly the weakest in Daniel Craig's series personally. But the thing is, if a film has moments I hate, then it can spoil the entire film for me. QoS had too many of them moments that made me dislike it. A few good scenes cannot save it, even Daniel himself admits there was trouble with the film in various interviews. He had to try write some of the film, and he joked about him not been a writer but had no choice. Spectre so much more enjoyable. It had a memorable opening sequence which just feels very bondy. QOS opening was just a generic car chase. Nothing stood out to make it feel like a bond film. Thats what makes bond films special in action. They do something interesting, like the helicopter doing barrel rolls in Spectre, for example. You get my point. And click ha.

    Well he shot Mr. White and was taking him to be interrogated, on the way he gets ambushed by Spectre...

    Camera work was intentional. Some of the action films that came out around that time used the same fast cuts.. Batman begins and I believe a Bourne film??

    Shaky cam was the cool thing to do.

    I actually really hated the use of it for the sienna scene. Car chase I liked the fast cuts it felt like I was there, it’s so loud, the Aston’s engine roaring is fantastic.



    Don't get me wrong, it had that powerful feel of aston and that, but I agree with you on the chase sequence. That camera work was horrible. There was no need to continue that constant cut of scenes and shakiness on the foot chase. Thats been a complaint by many people so look how skyfall fixed it and it was spot on. Even spectre. My favourite two from Daniel are casino royale and spectre, then skyfall . Loved Spectre as a guilty pleasure due to gun barrel returning, the opening sequence, and the sound track. I loved that opening day of the dead sequence and sound was spot on. Thats going to take some beating for me.

    Same here, both CR and SPECTRE are fantastic Bond films to me, and the latter is miles better than QOS and Skyfall to me. At least, it feels much more Bondian.
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
    Posts: 544
    Univex wrote: »
    So, do we think we'll get something from Baz today?

    I wish!
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    edited March 2019 Posts: 1,003
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]


  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    @Gareth007fan SP car chase better then QOS car chase ?!
  • Gareth007Gareth007 UK
    Posts: 416
    barryt007 wrote: »
    @Gareth007fan SP car chase better then QOS car chase ?!

    Absolutely! QoS was more aggressive yes, but a bond film should have memorable car chases and Spctre was far more creative than the QoS chase. It had gadgets it felt more bondian. So if it's more bondian then to me it's a better car chase. QoS felt far more generic
  • Gareth007Gareth007 UK
    Posts: 416
    NS_writings wrote: »
    Gareth007 wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Gareth007 wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Gareth007 wrote: »
    I don't understand why people really enjoyed QoS. I am a huge, huge bond fan, but I could easily see how it's one of the worst bond films of them all. There's so much in that film what made me hate it, from the poor directing, camera work, to disjointed scenes. I understand writing strike effected this movie, but it was so forgettable. The villian was the worst uninspiring villian in the entire franchise. So dull and forgettable. Even agent fields dead on the bed copied the scene form goldfinger. So unoriginal and rushed. Am I missing something here ? Q0S and die another day are the weakest two for me.

    The order of Daniel Craig films I personally find the best in order.

    Casino Royale - Still the best,
    Skyfall Comes close.
    Spectre - loved this as a guilty pleasure bond film. Feels like a bond film the most.
    QOS - forgettable in nearly every scene, apart from a few key scenes.

    Quantum of solace has one of the greatest car chases of all time.

    The opera sequence was fantastic.

    I loved that one scene where his credit card gets declined he says “Tell them I am going to Egypt.”


    Elevator scene where he takes out 5-6 agents like it’s nothing? I have never seen Bond ever do that in a film.

    The film has an exotic/different soundtrack also.

    I just think in general the movie is super unique it has its own style and it’s a fun movie.

    I have a hard time watching Skyfall 2-3 times a year but Qos I can watch every two months throughout the year.





    That's interesting. I just did not like the unique style it had. I found it not enjoyable due tothe poor camera work. That car chase was not thrilling due to the camera work for me, personally. I found the Spectre car chase better, as it was more unique and bondy. If you dont have a memorable or decent villian, then I dont think a bond film can be good. The villian has to be as good as 007, so they say, and that's not what Qos had. If I had to choose any memorable scenes from QoS, the only one that stands out to me is the flight scene. When I think of QoQ, I just remember the desert. I did like that aspect of it. I hated the sound track, was appalling if you ask me and felt rushed like the movie. Im glad you and others enjoyed it though, but it's certainly the weakest in Daniel Craig's series personally. But the thing is, if a film has moments I hate, then it can spoil the entire film for me. QoS had too many of them moments that made me dislike it. A few good scenes cannot save it, even Daniel himself admits there was trouble with the film in various interviews. He had to try write some of the film, and he joked about him not been a writer but had no choice. Spectre so much more enjoyable. It had a memorable opening sequence which just feels very bondy. QOS opening was just a generic car chase. Nothing stood out to make it feel like a bond film. Thats what makes bond films special in action. They do something interesting, like the helicopter doing barrel rolls in Spectre, for example. You get my point. And click ha.

    Well he shot Mr. White and was taking him to be interrogated, on the way he gets ambushed by Spectre...

    Camera work was intentional. Some of the action films that came out around that time used the same fast cuts.. Batman begins and I believe a Bourne film??

    Shaky cam was the cool thing to do.

    I actually really hated the use of it for the sienna scene. Car chase I liked the fast cuts it felt like I was there, it’s so loud, the Aston’s engine roaring is fantastic.



    Don't get me wrong, it had that powerful feel of aston and that, but I agree with you on the chase sequence. That camera work was horrible. There was no need to continue that constant cut of scenes and shakiness on the foot chase. Thats been a complaint by many people so look how skyfall fixed it and it was spot on. Even spectre. My favourite two from Daniel are casino royale and spectre, then skyfall . Loved Spectre as a guilty pleasure due to gun barrel returning, the opening sequence, and the sound track. I loved that opening day of the dead sequence and sound was spot on. Thats going to take some beating for me.

    Same here, both CR and SPECTRE are fantastic Bond films to me, and the latter is miles better than QOS and Skyfall to me. At least, it feels much more Bondian.

    Thanks. Glad your same as me here. Casino Royale then Spectre. :)
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 581
    I have a theory based in no actual information. I think the press conference has been delayed as they attempt to work out scheduling for Lupita Nyong'o. I know her representatives said no a while ago however we have seen EON circumvent similar challenges in the past.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,257
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Am I the only one who enjoys Craig’s films in this order?

    1) CR
    2) QOS
    3) SP
    4) SF

    Skyfalls editing was absolutely amazing, perfect flow but it just felt off. Not sure what it is but it doesn’t feel like a Bond film. Fantastic movie but I enjoyed Spectre more.

    Yeah spectre has some issues but it really did feel like a Bond film for me.

    Especially Bonds escape from the lair!

    My ranking:

    1) CR
    2) SP
    3) QOS
    4) SF
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited March 2019 Posts: 4,619
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]


    What leaked info? You just repeated the stuff we already know!
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 581
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]


    What leaked info? You just repeated the stuff we already know!

    I think that was the point of the post for those who wanted a single update. Also do we have confirmation the female agent is CIA. I would much prefer that to Mi6 for some reason.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,695
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]


    What leaked info? You just repeated the stuff we already know!

    You don't have to be mean. He's proving that Barbara Broccoli is doing her job.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    My ranking:

    1. CR
    2. QOS

    3. Skyfall
























    4. SPECTRE
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    Posts: 4,412
    Production Weekly are now listing Eclipse as the 'working title' for Bond 25
    https://www.productionweekly.com/production-weekly-issue-1136-thursday-march-21-2019-155-listings-34-pages/

    I suspect that it isn't the title of the film and will be only be used to point the crew where to park, etc.

    If you live in a city like London, you often see yellow tags and signs across the city with obscure codes which are often indications that a film/tv show is being made nearby.

    I work around Temple and they're always around the barrister chambers nearby, which are very photogenic.
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]


    What leaked info? You just repeated the stuff we already know!


    I haven’t been active I’m just putting everything into one spoiler tag in case anyone is just now seeing this.

    That’s the latest news if you have anything new to add go for it..

    Besides the,
    flashback scene with young Madeline killing a spectre agent [\spoiler]
  • Jack_WadeJack_Wade
    Posts: 125
    Shardlake wrote: »
    1. CR
    2. SF
    3. QOS










    24. SPECTRE

    This might change for the 3 above but I hope we get nothing below the bottom one in my lifetime.

    Totally agree.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    1. CR
    2. QoS
    3. SP
    ---
    Rock Bottom: SF
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,681
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]
    What leaked info? You just repeated the stuff we already know!

    I think that was the point of the post for those who wanted a single update. Also do we have confirmation the female agent is CIA. I would much prefer that to Mi6 for some reason.
    There's an error there, I think. One female character is MI6, and one is similar to Camille.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Production Weekly are now listing Eclipse as the 'working title' for Bond 25
    https://www.productionweekly.com/production-weekly-issue-1136-thursday-march-21-2019-155-listings-34-pages/

    I suspect that it isn't the title of the film and will be only be used to point the crew where to park, etc.

    If you live in a city like London, you often see yellow tags and signs across the city with obscure codes which are often indications that a film/tv show is being made nearby.

    I work around Temple and they're always around the barrister chambers nearby, which are very photogenic.

    Interesting. So there's still a chance for a more creative and Bondian title! At least.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    1. CR - love it.
    2. QOS - love it.
    3. SF - like it.
    4. SP - ugh.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    Posts: 4,343
    1. CR - really love it.
    2. SP - love it.
    3. SF - really like it.
    4. QoS - like it.
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
    Posts: 544
    1. Casino Royale/SPECTRE (can't really decide, CR has the best story but SP is more "Bondian" as a film).

    2. QOS/Skyfall (can't decide either. QOS' story is more solid compared to the SF soap opera, but again, in SF we went back to the classic Bond a little bit, so...)
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    Remington wrote: »
    1. CR - love it.
    2. QOS - love it.
    3. SF - like it.
    4. SP - ugh.

    Spot on.

    +1
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited March 2019 Posts: 4,619
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Production Weekly are now listing Eclipse as the 'working title' for Bond 25
    https://www.productionweekly.com/production-weekly-issue-1136-thursday-march-21-2019-155-listings-34-pages/

    I suspect that it isn't the title of the film and will be only be used to point the crew where to park, etc.

    If you live in a city like London, you often see yellow tags and signs across the city with obscure codes which are often indications that a film/tv show is being made nearby.

    I work around Temple and they're always around the barrister chambers nearby, which are very photogenic.
    So Eclipse is nothing more than the working title and mi6-hq is just as clueless as we are. ( I’m referring to their tweet with the photo of an eclipse)
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    QBranch wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]
    What leaked info? You just repeated the stuff we already know!

    I think that was the point of the post for those who wanted a single update. Also do we have confirmation the female agent is CIA. I would much prefer that to Mi6 for some reason.
    There's an error there, I think. One female character is MI6, and one is similar to Camille.
    QBranch wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]
    What leaked info? You just repeated the stuff we already know!

    I think that was the point of the post for those who wanted a single update. Also do we have confirmation the female agent is CIA. I would much prefer that to Mi6 for some reason.
    There's an error there, I think. One female character is MI6, and one is similar to Camille.

    Hence why I said “one is cia” ;)

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Wasn't the CIA character role male? Billy Magnussen was cast in the role.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,681
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]
    What leaked info? You just repeated the stuff we already know!

    I think that was the point of the post for those who wanted a single update. Also do we have confirmation the female agent is CIA. I would much prefer that to Mi6 for some reason.
    There's an error there, I think. One female character is MI6, and one is similar to Camille.
    QBranch wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    Quick update of leaked info

    So what we know so far...

    Rami Malek 95% chance he’s the villain or in the film.

    Madeline probably dies.

    CIA is involved in this movie, they have a male and a female agent.

    There was a casting call for “two Bond girls”, plus we have Madeline so that’s three Bond girls?

    I would say there’s also a really good chance that the male CIA agent is working with the villain he’s a mole.

    Italy will be the Pre-Title sequence.

    Norway is the scene after the Pre-titles, they are planning on blowing up a building that’s a cottage. (Madeline and Bond get ambushed, Madeline dies, Bond escapes).

    Alleged title is “Eclipse”

    [\spoiler]
    What leaked info? You just repeated the stuff we already know!

    I think that was the point of the post for those who wanted a single update. Also do we have confirmation the female agent is CIA. I would much prefer that to Mi6 for some reason.
    There's an error there, I think. One female character is MI6, and one is similar to Camille.

    Hence why I said “one is cia” ;)
    Of course that is possible - and I did think of that, but in all this news and rumours, was there ever mention of a female role being CIA?
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Wasn't the CIA character role male? Billy Magnussen was cast in the role.

    It said male and female during the casting call. Both agents. Then a henchwoman.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited March 2019 Posts: 15,423
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Wasn't the CIA character role male? Billy Magnussen was cast in the role.
    It said male and female during the casting call. Both agents. Then a henchwoman.
    That was the villain. If I recall. Unless I'm missing something that happened the past few weeks?
  • CASINOROYALECASINOROYALE Somewhere hot
    Posts: 1,003
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    CASINOROYALE wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Wasn't the CIA character role male? Billy Magnussen was cast in the role.
    It said male and female during the casting call. Both agents. Then a henchwoman.
    That was the villain. If I recall. Unless I'm missing something that happened the past few weeks?


    Male villain. Female henchwoman.

    Two agents male and female. (CIA).

    I’ll try and find the article but that’s just what I saw online.
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