No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 9,847
    peter wrote: »
    Thank you @MaxCasino ! Although, when people are playing nice, there are plenty of good investigators on here, great piecing together and exciting talk, and people like @ColonelSun (who have worked with EoN!)!
    Marvel films have different people involved and are made-up of team movies and many different solo movies
    . This is it exactly-- teams producing the different characters and stories. EoN is one character, coming from one source, with one family running the show. It's an incredibly unique way of doing business-- especially in today's Marvel/Disney world.
    Is that what your wife told you, @peter?
    ... Unfortunately I have to pay her to tell me that-- gets me up in the morning... (kinky)

    I am an early Riser myself;)
  • edited March 2019 Posts: 5,767
    peter wrote: »
    This is the biggest crock-of-dog feces I've read in a while: the journo ASSUMES the script isn't done. Why??? Because Fiennes says he hasn't received his script??? Read about Nolan films, and a role like M gets delivered within just a few weeks (days) of shooting that role; same with the Marvel films; M/Fiennes doesn't need to see a script since he's not the star-- he knows what his role is in a film like B25, lol!

    Burns was on polish duties-- and this was reported-- It would last about 3 to 4 weeks.

    That time is now.

    He handed in his script. His finished. Polished. Script.

    He has now moved on to his next project (as writers will do); he delivered his work on time, as was reported.

    Ridiculous....

    I do find it fascinating that people here tend to pick and choose the pieces of news they want to hear.

    Rodrigo Perez from The Playlist, is the same reporter who announced that the start date had been pushed a month to accommodate Scott Z Burns to rewrite the script.

    Now, Perez isn’t immune to hyperbole. He labelled Burns’ rewrite as an “overhaul” and Variety countered this claim by suggesting Eon were happy with CJF’s work. So I imagine Burns was bought on to polish.

    Now Perez is reporting that Burns has left the film to complete another obligation and the script is unfinished. Word that Fiennes has yet to see a script is insignificant.

    Perez suggests he’ll have “more soon”. So till then we wait and see. However, if you believed Perez on the Scott Z Burns update, I think there is little reason to not accept the majority of what he is claiming now.

    Just my two cents
    I do accept that the majority of that article is baseless speculation, intent on stirring emotions.
  • Posts: 5,767
    Again, I would like a straight answer from all the EON apologists: how much more bad news and delays would it take for you to say “ENOUGH”?

    Would you keep defending EON if the movie was pushed back to the end of 2020? How about if the movie was pushed back to 2021 and the end result turned out to be a horrible mess?
    I guess if one had ENOUGH; there´s no reason to hang around here
    Risico007 wrote: »
    so what do we know about this Greg guy
    That he obviously frequents this thread ;-).

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    There s too much 'feeding the squirrels' on here!
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    There s too much 'feeding the squirrels' on here!

    I used to find it annoying, but now it's actually amusing in a pitiful kind of way.
  • Posts: 9,847
    I mean I would like to point out Bond 25 if not already filming is going to be filming Monday the latest we have reports on Italy and other locations and when they will be used and maybe it’s just because I “lived life” but the 5 years flew by for me with something 007ish each year since 2015 to keep in occupied

    My list below
    2016 The night manager and Hiddleston rumors as well as the comic books
    2017 the comic books
    2018 the gear up to production Craig announcing he is back Danny Boyle announcement and departure etc and replaying/ playing new to me bond games
    2019 filming as well as Playing bond games new to me and finally reading forever and a day which I am about half way through

    Plus there were other things to enjoy/ look forward too heck the entire run of Ben Affleck as Batman was in between bond films sadly enough like I said plenty to enjoy these last few years and I am looking forward to Bond 25 we will see it’s title within the next few weeks and like I said if it is
    eclipse

    So be it I prefer The Hildebrand Rarity but that is me
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
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    Could be nothing but a Stunt Actor trying to increase his profile but found this post on Instagram. Is it just me or does he look eeirly like Rami Malek?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Bentley007 wrote: »


    Could be nothing but a Stunt Actor trying to increase his profile but found this post on Instagram. Is it just me or does he look eeirly like Rami Malek?

    Could be nothing, but an interesting find nonetheless. Well spotted.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
    Posts: 575
    Bentley007 wrote: »


    Could be nothing but a Stunt Actor trying to increase his profile but found this post on Instagram. Is it just me or does he look eeirly like Rami Malek?

    Could be nothing, but an interesting find nonetheless. Well spotted.

    Clicked on his IMDB page and he is attached to "The Rythym Section" so there is a connection to EON. Also his caption "we will rock you" suggested Rami as well
  • edited March 2019 Posts: 17,756
    Bentley007 wrote: »


    Could be nothing but a Stunt Actor trying to increase his profile but found this post on Instagram. Is it just me or does he look eeirly like Rami Malek?

    Not THAT much, but maybe enough for a stunt double? I see on IMDB that he's listed as a stunt double on The Rhythm Section. Isn't that film somehow connected to EON?
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
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    Bentley007 wrote: »


    Could be nothing but a Stunt Actor trying to increase his profile but found this post on Instagram. Is it just me or does he look eeirly like Rami Malek?

    Not THAT much, but maybe enough for a stunt double? I see on IMDB that he's listed as a stunt double on The Rhythm Section. Isn't that film somehow connected to EON?

    I believe EON are producing it. He also seems to do primarily stunt work in major films.
  • MonsieurMerciMonsieurMerci France
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    Seeing pics of Billy Magnussen, make me think of Necros
  • edited March 2019 Posts: 4,619
    RC7 wrote: »
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    matt_u wrote: »
    People need to realize that rewriting and last minute changings are always been part of this process.
    Oh, I see what you did there! You talk about rewriting and last minute changes, but avoid last minute rewriting. FYI, last minute rewriting has NOT always been part of the process. EON had more than THREE years to get the script ready. It’s deeply troubling that three years were not enough for them.

    As long as the core idea is solid and everyone is on the same page, rewriting is largely irrelevant. It’s part of the process. To anyone who has any production experience you’re so hilariously naive, it’s almost endearing. Like a child who’s adamant he can’t be seen if he puts his hands over his eyes.
    Come on! It can’t be this difficult to understand the difference between rewriting and last minute rewriting!

    See above.
    You understand that not all scripts have to be rewritten in the last minute, right?

    Not all films lose their director at the 11th hour. Those that do need some inevitable re-tooling.

    You just need to take a step back and cool off.
    Not all producers are stupid enough to fire an A-list director at the 11th hour. Also, EON had the same script issues when they were making Spectre. No director left the production of that film.

    You haven’t considered the issues around SP are exactly why Barbara didn’t want to risk Boyle’s take, whatever that may have been? This is a complex process. My advice would be - wait for the finished film, rather than concerning yourself with things you a) don’t understand and b) have no interest in understanding.
    You understand that Boyle was hired AFTER Hodge delivered the first draft of his script, right? If Barbara didn’t want to risk Boyle’s take, then why was he hired? My advice would be -stop concerning yourself with things you a) don’t understand and b) have no interest in understanding.


    Not true. He was hired after his initial pitch and we don’t know what Boyle pitched, or where Hodge took it, so how can we possibly comment?

    Fierstein’s brilliant pitch for TND, ‘Words are the new weapons, satellites the new artillery’ is fantastic. Does the finished film really deliver on that? It’s not impossible the script Hodge turned in fell short of delivering on the pitch, or was altered in the process.

    Think before writing.
    Wrong. Boyle was hired several months AFTER his initial pitch.

    "Hodge won’t be done for a couple of months, but when he turns in the script, one of two things will happen. MGM and the producers will like it enough to shelve the movie they were contemplating — the listed writers are Neal Purvis & Robert Wade, whose 007 credits include Skyfall, Spectre and Casino Royale — and they will instead make the version that was cooked up by the Trainspotting team. "
    https://deadline.com/2018/02/james-bond-danny-boyle-john-hodge-daniel-craig-bond-25-queen-elizabeth-ii-mgm-trainspotting-1202298157/

    Boyle met EON. EON liked his pitch. EON asked Boyle and Hodge to write the script. Hodge turned in the script (not the final version, obviously). EON liked it and then they hired Boyle.

    Think before writing.
    ColonelSun wrote: »
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    matt_u wrote: »
    People need to realize that rewriting and last minute changings are always been part of this process.
    Oh, I see what you did there! You talk about rewriting and last minute changes, but avoid last minute rewriting. FYI, last minute rewriting has NOT always been part of the process. EON had more than THREE years to get the script ready. It’s deeply troubling that three years were not enough for them.

    As long as the core idea is solid and everyone is on the same page, rewriting is largely irrelevant. It’s part of the process. To anyone who has any production experience you’re so hilariously naive, it’s almost endearing. Like a child who’s adamant he can’t be seen if he puts his hands over his eyes.
    Come on! It can’t be this difficult to understand the difference between rewriting and last minute rewriting!

    See above.
    You understand that not all scripts have to be rewritten in the last minute, right?

    Not all films lose their director at the 11th hour. Those that do need some inevitable re-tooling.

    You just need to take a step back and cool off.
    Not all producers are stupid enough to fire an A-list director at the 11th hour. Also, EON had the same script issues when they were making Spectre. No director left the production of that film.

    You haven’t considered the issues around SP are exactly why Barbara didn’t want to risk Boyle’s take, whatever that may have been? This is a complex process. My advice would be - wait for the finished film, rather than concerning yourself with things you a) don’t understand and b) have no interest in understanding.
    You understand that Boyle was hired AFTER Hodge delivered the first draft of his script, right? If Barbara didn’t want to risk Boyle’s take, then why was he hired? My advice would be -stop concerning yourself with things you a) don’t understand and b) have no interest in understanding.

    Just chill out PP and think it out a little bit. Boyle was hired, off his pitch (as we understand), and then he brought on his own writer. And the script he and Hodge developed seems to have failed to engage or impress Eon and Craig. It's not very complicated to understand.
    It seems it is complicated for you to understand what really happened. Read my comment above. What you wrote is factually incorrect.
  • edited March 2019 Posts: 17,756
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    Bentley007 wrote: »


    Could be nothing but a Stunt Actor trying to increase his profile but found this post on Instagram. Is it just me or does he look eeirly like Rami Malek?

    Not THAT much, but maybe enough for a stunt double? I see on IMDB that he's listed as a stunt double on The Rhythm Section. Isn't that film somehow connected to EON?

    I believe EON are producing it. He also seems to do primarily stunt work in major films.

    Thanks. Knew there was a Bond connection with that film, but couldn't remember what. As he's used the hashtag #BOND25 in his post, it's likely he'll feature in B25 in some capacity.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    In his Instagram story, Soudais shows that he is in Norway...
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    In his Instagram story, Soudais shows that he is in Norway...
    Filming starts within 48 hours.
  • Posts: 17,756
    ggl007 wrote: »
    In his Instagram story, Soudais shows that he is in Norway...

    Good catch! He might be…
    one of the intruders in the Nittedal/Langvann sequence.
  • edited March 2019 Posts: 4,409
    He has already started in norway...

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    This confirms that second unit work begins this week! Fantastic news!

    I imagine the next two weeks will be jam packed with news
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited March 2019 Posts: 8,217
    It is mind boggling that we're still at a stage of arguing about when and how a director, who is now not making Bond 25, was initially hired to direct Bond 25.

    Who cares? They didn't like the script. It's over and done with. Boyle has moved on. It's for the history books. It's no longer pertinent to the production of the film. Get over it.
    He has already started in norway...

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    That's a lovely view.
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    It is mind boggling that we're still at a stage of arguing about when and how a director, who is now not making Bond 25, was initially hired to direct Bond 25.

    Who cares? They didn't like the script. It's over and done with. Boyle has moved on. It's for the history books. It's no longer pertinent to the production of the film. Get over it.
    We don't know whether parts of the Hodge script survived or not. So what happened might still be very much pertinent to the production of the film. It's certainly more pertinent than the dozens of completely off-topic comments that are posted in this thread every day.
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    @Pierce2Daniel Filming will 100% begin the day after tomorrow. It's mind boggling that they didn't hold the press conference this week.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited March 2019 Posts: 4,343
    ggl007 wrote: »
    In his Instagram story, Soudais shows that he is in Norway...
    Filming starts within 48 hours.

    Looks like it’s already started. This Soudais guy seems legit. He looks like Yusuf. I have a feeling this brief Norway shoot will serve as a flashback, with Madeleine having bad dreams about her past. Then she will wake up in Matera with 007 and the PTS will kickstart. Maniac by Fukunaga was all about childhood trauma and dreams.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited March 2019 Posts: 13,807
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    I think I see Craig next the third tree from the left. Maybe Soudais. Or even both.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    It is mind boggling that we're still at a stage of arguing about when and how a director, who is now not making Bond 25, was initially hired to direct Bond 25.

    Who cares? They didn't like the script. It's over and done with. Boyle has moved on. It's for the history books. It's no longer pertinent to the production of the film. Get over it.
    We don't know whether parts of the Hodge script survived or not. So what happened might still be very much pertinent to the production of the film. It's certainly more pertinent than the dozens of completely off-topic comments that are posted in this thread every day.

    That's not what the argument was about though, was it? The exchanges above related to when Boyle was hired ("after the pitch, before the script!" "No, after the script!"), not whether elements of Hodges screenplay survived or not. You can't have it both ways, I'm afraid. Danny Boyle is now about as pertinent as those other off-topic comments, whether you accept that or not. Sorry, old man.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    What's the likelihood of Eon releasing a clapperboard picture commemorating the start of the shoot?
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    jake24 wrote: »
    What's the likelihood of Eon releasing a clapperboard picture commemorating the start of the shoot?
    Knowing that their marketing department still lives in the 20th century, it's safe to say they won't release anything when filming starts on Monday.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    jake24 wrote: »
    What's the likelihood of Eon releasing a clapperboard picture commemorating the start of the shoot?

    50/50. They might do it the day after. Or they might put it out the day after the press conference, when attention from the general public is at its most intense.
  • Bentley007Bentley007 Manitoba, Canada
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    jake24 wrote: »
    What's the likelihood of Eon releasing a clapperboard picture commemorating the start of the shoot?

    I was thinking the same thing. It would be very out of character of recent 007 social media activity. I think more likely is crew continue to post about the filming and we find out bits from that.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 2019 Posts: 5,970
    Bentley007 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    What's the likelihood of Eon releasing a clapperboard picture commemorating the start of the shoot?

    I was thinking the same thing. It would be very out of character of recent 007 social media activity. I think more likely is crew continue to post about the filming and we find out bits from that.
    I don’t understand why people think the 007 social media is lacking? Why would they be posting pictures and tidbits before filmings even started? We all know it’ll kick off again once production has fully hit the road so I think there’s a perfectly high chance that we could get a clapperboard.

    I’m imagining one lodged in a piece of ice with a blurred out lodge cabin in the background but just a guess haha
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited March 2019 Posts: 24,183
    It is mind boggling that we're still at a stage of arguing about when and how a director, who is now not making Bond 25, was initially hired to direct Bond 25.

    Who cares? They didn't like the script. It's over and done with. Boyle has moved on. It's for the history books. It's no longer pertinent to the production of the film. Get over it.
    We don't know whether parts of the Hodge script survived or not. So what happened might still be very much pertinent to the production of the film. It's certainly more pertinent than the dozens of completely off-topic comments that are posted in this thread every day.

    That's not what the argument was about though, was it? The exchanges above related to when Boyle was hired ("after the pitch, before the script!" "No, after the script!"), not whether elements of Hodges screenplay survived or not. You can't have it both ways, I'm afraid. Danny Boyle is now about as pertinent as those other off-topic comments, whether you accept that or not. Sorry, old man.

    That's the problem these days, isn't it? People think that by dowsing the Internet in corrosive comments, filmmakers will inevitably yield to their demands. It's the producers/director/lead actors who decide how things turn out, not we.

    "Things don't happen fast enough!" "I'm not getting the script, director, ... I want." "Barbara Broccoli must go." Yeah, just keep repeating that and one day they're bound to listen and obey the almighty fan--no, not the fan, the opinionated critic with a keyboard.

    Yesterday, the question was asked of how much more we must endure before we've had enough. Let me tell you about 'enough'. With a spectacular 24 film titles (plus 2 if you'll have them), spread across 5 decades of filmmaking, several book series, interesting comic book titles, video games, soundtracks, making of books and documentaries, analysis books, anecdotal books, toys, celebratory Internet forums and more, I'd say we have enough, more than enough even. I count every next entry, if and when it comes, as an added bonus, as a reason to be joyful. But in the absence of a new Bond film tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, I'm not going to accuse EON of letting Bond fans down.

    Remember that we came very close, in a distant past, to losing Bond forever. They could have pulled the plug after OHMSS, or after LTK or especially after the Harry Saltzman fiasco post-TMWTGG. The Broccolis, more than anyone else, have endured. More than that; since the 90s, no Bond film has been without its share of critical and commercial success, securing the franchise's health in an era no-one in the 60s could have predicted would still welcome James Bond. Perhaps you or you or you weren't too happy about some of these films in the GE--SP collection but clearly a lot of folks out there still respect and admire the series enough to cough up a lot of money for every next Bond film. It would be outrageous to even assume that the suits are contemplating Barbara Broccoli's departure from the series. I don't know why people are suddenly targeting her; I think it's intellectual laziness more than anything else. Blame the woman in charge, accuse her of taking Bond to the PC slaughterhouse, render Bond at the mercy of outsiders who only care about earning a quick buck and were never any part of the Bond legacy, and everything will be fine? Perhaps Cannon Films can come back for "007: The Quest For Peace". Sounds like a good plan, this.

    If and when it happens, folks, if and when it happens. We owe them all the fun we've had with the cinematic Bond so far and they owe us nothing. Face it, we're not a part of any of it until the product is released and we can choose to watch it or stay away.

    One more thing about "not getting a Bond film fast enough", the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. (We used to comment on choices made, but until now, not getting a Bond film soon enough, was never an issue.) In a certain other thread about things we're tired of seeing in movies, several members have said, "superhero films". Superhero fatigue is a well-known phenomenon. We've had it before, you see, even when the Superhero output was, at best, one of them every one or two years. Yet with superhero stuff, you can still go to various places, use different characters, explore different adventures. Something so close to a formula as Bond might, like Solo, overstay its welcome very quickly if not enough time has passed since its previous entry. Granted, Solo was only a few months away from Episode VIII, whereas B25 will be released over four years since SP. We, as die hard Bond fans, may appreciate new material with every lunar cycle, but we alone don't pay the bills. Only when enough people can be lured to movie theatres, can Bond survive. If the Bond films were to deliver a 'Solo', it might be over for good, or at least for a very long time. Besides, it took them four years to get to CR after DAD, a Bond film many of us felt, at the time, had completely destroyed the series; and it took them 6 years to get to GE after LTK, when many people felt that it would be ridiculous for Bond to even try to resurface in the post-Cold War 90s. That Bond did and with success, has a lot to do with us having to sit through six years of patience, and with Barbara Broccoli being a darn good producer. Also, if the quality of a film is somehow proportonal to how fast the film is delivered, I guess we might as well call the likes of Terence Malik, James Cameron and Stanley Kubrick some of the worst directors of all times.

    So, to all those negative elements out there, for your own mental health, I beg you to relax. It'll come when it comes, it'll happen when it happens, you'll see it when you get the chance to see it. There's always a multitude of reasons for delays and firing one person, especially one who's been around and involved for so long is not going to speed things up or guarantee a higher quality of films. Let us celebrate the production of the next Bond film. Let us enjoy the fascinating road to get there, even if, like many great films in the past, it is plagued with setbacks and critical predicaments. Let us dream of what it might be, without feeling any anger if it turns out something else entirely. And most of all, let us not do what the rest of the Internet is doing because we're so much better than that. We're all reasonably intelligent people here and we don't want to stoop to the level of trolls and poisonous self-appointed critics. I'm a Bond fan; for me, the Sun is shining right now. Another Bond film is coming. The fun of anticipating it means a lot to me. And I'll keep fighting all that speculative, useless, boring negativity around here with the optimism of a true Bond fan, who is also grateful for what has been given to us in previous decades, and for a future in which a new Bond, even if it's just one more, is guaranteed. I, for one, won't be set off kelter, by the arrongance of some, who come off thinking they can make better films than those who are actually doing it.

    So who's with me?
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