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Please don't let me deprive you of a little fun, @CraigMooreOHMSS. ;-)
Indeed, it wasn't a political comment, just a wee bit of fun. :)
@DarthDimi you sure saying trump is a bond villain isn't political
It was a joke. Surely that’s permitted.
@Ottofuse8 @DarthDimi ok its hard to tell when its online. If Trump is Goldfinger what does that make Hililary Clinton Rosa Klebb
If it’s an all original play/film we had a storyline. Not necessarily a completed script but a storyline.. For example.
(Completely making this up based on Bond 25)
Opening
Bond and Madeline attacked, Madeline dies/title sequence.
After title sequence
London/MI6, Bond mission starts, meeting with CIA Agents. CIA ambushed and killed. Bond gets a name.
Middle
Bond goes to Egypt pursuing the new villain. car chase, casino scene, villain speech/introduction.
Ending
TBD
That’s how the outline may look during the start of production. Obviously there’s a script for the first half and middle. When they say the script isn’t complete that could mean one of two things..
1) They are writing while they film.
2) Waiting on a couple of actors/actresses to sign on etc..Working out scheduling issues.
The script doesn’t have to be 110% fully completed when they begin filming.
Also there is some minor improv that occurs when filming movies.
It’s not like every movie made has a script done and then they film it. Most of the time yes but not always.
If they have the beginning and middle part of the story done then they will film that. When they are almost done filming the middle part then I’d imagine the script would be fully completed.
Bottom line is, they definitely have the story worked out and done because they wouldn’t be filming and have locations set in stone yet?
A film producer--in our case Ms. Broccoli as well as Mr. Wilson--are the people in charge over the film production as a whole. They take a basic premise and set everything up to deliver a movie from it. In order to do so they hire creatives for fleshing out every detail. So firstly they need to choose everyone carefully so their joined efforts can live up to the premise on hand. But nurturing creativity is a sensible business as most everybody should realize. So the day-to-day job of the producers especially consists of accommodating everything for their employees to achieve the best possible result. So the fact that the work on this new movie was suspended for some time WAS the producers doing their job by enabling one of their most central employees--Mr. Craig--his much wanted break.
Next up: What does a director do? He is the one calling the shots--literally--and so in charge on the film set. But only there! He instructs the actors how to play their respective roles, sets the stage and directs the cinematographer on the framing of every scene. It's in the director's responsibility to have the whole story presented in a unified way following his distinctive instincts that nevertheless are cleared with his bosses--the producers. So just the on-set crew directly follows the director's instruction and therefore only they are usually chosen to the director's liking.
So where does the script fit in here? Well, the producers do hire someone to turn the given premise into a proper screenplay, a task of higher craftsmanship that usually takes between one and two months. The resulting draft will be reviewed by the producers and tooled to their liking afterwards. It is now handed over to the other departments that can now offer their own suggestion for changes. The most of them usually come from the director for he is the one to realize what has been written. As long as these fit into the vision of the film as a whole the producers let them be incorporated. This process of refinement is oftentimes only finished when the respective scene is shot so the screenplay is in constant flux even when filming.
Oftentimes overlooked is the art of editing that follows the film shoot. Only here is decided how the story is told by arranging and timing every scene into a cohesive whole. One could argue that a good edit makes or breaks the final film even more than a good script does--case in point would e.g. be Star Wars. Although the director's job has been done now he commonly still oversees this phase.
At this point you should realize about the Boyle situation: His vision got the interest of the producers so they accommodated by letting him bring in his writer of choice. But he was not able to turn in a script that fitted within the framework of a Bond production. And as the producers tried to bring the script into shape Boyle walked as he did not want to compromise with what his buddy wrote. When a replacement was found it then took some time to accommodate the production to the comfort of the new director again hence the given delay. The script was tooled to his liking, he may even have done some rewrites himself.
Burns on the other hand was an opportunity Broccoli & Wilson eagerly took when he was available. He was hired to further rework the script for a fixed time. Whether he came in as a script doctor to 'heal' issues with the text or because the producers liked his 'voice' to be incorporated is anyone's guess at the moment. Fact is only that he has apparently completed the given task. Nevertheless the script will still be tinkered with up until the last day for that's the usual modus operandi. Of course a more robust script facilitates the shoot but the film isn't necessarily hampered by this for as long as everyone got a hold of the film they want to make. And here I have some faith in Fukanaga for he walked as well when past project went into directions he didn't support--e.g. the remake of 'It'. So as long as he stays everything should still be on track ;)
P&W made a comment a year or two ago saying “It’s hard to make a Bond film now because with Trump he’s a real live villain.”
So my comment wasn’t random at all lol and then it leaked that the film involved an election hacking and Russians. Coincidence?
The Danny Boyle version was obviously related to Trump and Russia.
Not trying to start a political debate just pointing out the obvious.
I’m remaining politically unbiased and just pointing out that the film would’ve been crappy.
The main villain was an unknown Russian actor.
I would rather have Rami Malek over some unknown actors from Russia.
@Eiragorn Welcome back
Arnold was always their hire. Someone they forced on directors.
With Mendes, they wanted to give him as much control as possible and part of that was ceded to his choice of composer.
After the Boyle debacle, they’ll want Fukunaga to think Bond 25 is “his film”. (After all, considering their circumstances it’s a shock they could hired him and they known that they were very very very lucky)
Cary will either use Dan Romer (his usual composer) or go A-list.
I think either of these wo names will get the job:
1. Justin Hurwitz
2. Nicholas Brittell
Yes
I personally am hoping for Hurwitz. His scores are so varied and specific to the film content. I think he would do an amazing job.
@Ottofuse8 ok
I’d love if Daniel Pemberton got the gig.
A composer oftentimes only starts his work after the editing has begun so were still 9 months removed from that... And since there is no one Fukanaga has a really ongoing partnership the chances for Arnold are quite high. He raised his profile quite a bit recently with Sherlock and HAS an ongoing relationship with Bond. And surely also the producers might have realized that his Craig scores were his strongest yet.
@Eiragorn yeah I think he is a safe bet I think its only fitting
Same here
Agreed. It's very difficult coming on this thread, because I am, like most, dying to know about Bond 25,...but mostly I have been dipping in here..and stepping in squirrel shit!
@ToTheRight Looking to you?
One day, he will be. He is the great David Arnold.
They're not worthy of his greatness, that's all.
2.5 years since his last film. He’s also scored the massively successful Sherlock series since working on QoS.
You know this how?