No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Benny wrote: »
    ggl007 wrote: »
    Riva dei Ginepri Instagram (Matera's beach):

    moaS066.jpg




    If this is the DB5 being shipped to Matera, then some fans are going to be really, really upset.

    Especially as Batman's Tumbler is going with them. Look at the vehicle on the right of the above photo.

    Not true folks. Sorry.

    Exactly.
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 2,159
    Another writer?

    Going to need a whole line on the poster just for the credits.

    Bond 25. Written by

    Neal Purvis
    Robert Wade
    John Hodge
    Danny Boyle
    Cary Fukunaga
    Scott S Burns
    Phoebe Waller-Bridge

    Also not too keen on
    Another perosn having the 007 designation. Only James Bond should be 007
  • Posts: 3,164
    The Guardian article:
    Sources close to the film in the US said that while in the country she discussed with Craig how to improve the script of Bond 25, which the 007 actor felt needed some “polishing”, by introducing more humour and the offbeat style of writing she is best known for.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/apr/14/james-bond-script-phoebe-waller-bridge-fleabag-daniel-craig?__twitter_impression=true
  • CatchingBulletsCatchingBullets facebook.com/catchingbullets
    edited April 2019 Posts: 292
    Phoebe Waller-Bridge bringing her pen, ear and voice to BOND 25 has all sorts of brilliant inevitability about it and is a perfect, apt, edgy and creatively astute call from the House of EON for Craig's final bullet...

    https://instagram.com/p/BwOraLeBr_q/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
    edited April 2019 Posts: 480
    A lot of big productions, particularly comedies or animation, hire comedians for punch-up sessions. They browse the script and ad lib new lines that may work better than what's on the page. These contributions remain usually uncredited, but they're very well paid for a couple of hours of work. Louis CK or Patton Oswalt nearly made a living out of it.
    I guess that they asked something similar to Wallers-Bridge, bring a feminine voice to the female characters. But it's not a "full rewrite" or a "complete overhaul", nor a source of fear now that a (gasp...) female writer has touched with her dirty mittens the mountain of masculinity that a Bond script is supposed to be.
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 2,115
    Wow....

    Looks like Eon are reading my posts. I wrote back in November 2015 that Bond should return to Jamaica at the opening of the film here:
    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/13322/realistic-serious-story-ideas-for-bond-25-to-be-used-by-eon-productions-ltd/p11

    Then I wrote in March 2018 that they should introduce a female 007 who should coax Bond out of retirement:
    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/13322/realistic-serious-story-ideas-for-bond-25-to-be-used-by-eon-productions-ltd/p34

    Probably time I called a lawyer.

    Not sure whether you're serious or kidding. Regardless, when you put your idea out in a public forum, it's pretty free for people to take unless you copyright it or register it in some way.

    In the late 1960s, U.S. television producer Roy Huggins said in an interview in Variety he had an idea for a weekly TV movie, 90 minutes including commercials.

    Somebody else then beat him to it. And there was nothing he could about it. To pursue a lawsuit would have required putting up a lot of money with, at best, an uncertain chance of winning because the idea had been put in the public domain. More details in this video of an interview with Huggins.

  • Posts: 5,767
    boldfinger wrote: »
    manover wrote: »
    I don't know if this is true..but if the script is unfinished their maybe some work going on ..
    HUGE news if true, and it does sound very believable! On one hand, I'm not happy that they enlisted yet another writer, on the other hand Phoebe Waller-Bridge is indeed talented.

    "Bond director Cary Fukunaga and the crew are due to begin filming in Jamaica within weeks. "

    ...and even more importantly:
    "One plot being considered involves Craig’s ageing Bond retired and now living in Jamaica – the island where 007 author Ian Fleming had his Goldeneye retreat. The 007 number has been taken up by a new agent – a woman – who embarks on a mission which forces Bond to come out of retirement."

    I know a lot of people here will hate this idea but I LOVE IT!
    So Craig Bond
    wants to quit his Job directly after he was promoted to a very respectable position to live together with Vesper. Then after she killed herself his Job is the one Thing keeping him straight. Then he Drops his balls after M doesn´t trust him out of senility. Which results in Bond getting M killed. Then he wants to quit his Job again, this time for Whatshername. then he Comes again out of retirement? What a sorry fella, and what an incompetent Government which occupies such an instable person as their top secret Agent!
    This is all too politically motivated meta crap for me.

    The same one that would allow a Secret Agent drive around in major foreign cities in a not so subtle Aston Martin with rockets under the hood.

    Bond getting back into his job repeatedly isn't that much of a stretch by comparison, really.
    Except that those themes in the Craig era are presented in a way that only works if taken seriously. Those issues aren´t fun. Rockets under the Hood are.

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,205
    boldfinger wrote: »
    boldfinger wrote: »
    manover wrote: »
    I don't know if this is true..but if the script is unfinished their maybe some work going on ..
    HUGE news if true, and it does sound very believable! On one hand, I'm not happy that they enlisted yet another writer, on the other hand Phoebe Waller-Bridge is indeed talented.

    "Bond director Cary Fukunaga and the crew are due to begin filming in Jamaica within weeks. "

    ...and even more importantly:
    "One plot being considered involves Craig’s ageing Bond retired and now living in Jamaica – the island where 007 author Ian Fleming had his Goldeneye retreat. The 007 number has been taken up by a new agent – a woman – who embarks on a mission which forces Bond to come out of retirement."

    I know a lot of people here will hate this idea but I LOVE IT!
    So Craig Bond
    wants to quit his Job directly after he was promoted to a very respectable position to live together with Vesper. Then after she killed herself his Job is the one Thing keeping him straight. Then he Drops his balls after M doesn´t trust him out of senility. Which results in Bond getting M killed. Then he wants to quit his Job again, this time for Whatshername. then he Comes again out of retirement? What a sorry fella, and what an incompetent Government which occupies such an instable person as their top secret Agent!
    This is all too politically motivated meta crap for me.

    The same one that would allow a Secret Agent drive around in major foreign cities in a not so subtle Aston Martin with rockets under the hood.

    Bond getting back into his job repeatedly isn't that much of a stretch by comparison, really.
    Except that those themes in the Craig era are presented in a way that only works if taken seriously. Those issues aren´t fun. Rockets under the Hood are.

    Being fun isn't really relevant when it comes to believability, so I'd argue that the point still stands.
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    I might as well chime in on this irrelevancy in the absence of real news:

    I think a female double-0 is a fine idea, as these things go, and the series has featured several female agents of various kinds who were effective. But 007 is james bond. If we're to be introduced to a female double-0, make it 009 or something.
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    More work on the script??? Jeez p&w must have turned in utter garbage that it needs this much work
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 6,709
    You know the name, you know the... eh... numb...oh well...

    They've really run out of ideas. Any day now our beloved character will be unrecognisable, an asexual bruit with no finesse. Not a womaniser gentleman, which is something of a paradox nowadays. I once got accused of harassment for constantly opening doors to women at college. And that was 20 years ago. Chivalry is not just dead, it was murdered. So will be being seductive or flirty. Soon we'll be left with a bunch of colourless characters. Bond will be the first to be hanged on the public square.

    Still hoping all, and I mean ALL of the rumours so far are false. Bland, stupid title and all.
    I still have faith in Fukunaga.

    If not, well, there's always Bond26 for me.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    jake24 wrote: »
    I don't mind that supposed idea but what a bizarre development if true. I'll await for more clarity.

    Just catching up. I assume, since this writer is known for her sharp dialogue (a la Aaron Sorkin), that she's been hired to polish dialogue.

    If I'm not mistaken, has this idea of a young protege/female 007 been around since the Boyle/Hodge days? Is this the thread of the "golden idea" we heard about?
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 6,709
    peter wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    I don't mind that supposed idea but what a bizarre development if true. I'll await for more clarity.

    Just catching up. I assume, since this writer is known for her sharp dialogue (a la Aaron Sorkin), that she's been hired to polish dialogue.

    If I'm not mistaken, has this idea of a young protege/female 007 been around since the Boyle/Hodge days? Is this the thread of the "golden idea" we heard about?

    Hope not.

    About the writer. No problem with her. I love Arron Sorkin kind of penmanship. As long as she doesn't castrate our man, I'll be fine with it.
  • Posts: 4,619
    Univex wrote: »
    You know the name, you know the... eh... numb...oh well...

    They've really run out of ideas. Any day now our beloved character will be unrecognisable, an asexual bruit with no finesse. Not a womaniser gentleman, which is something of a paradox nowadays.
    A female agent becoming the next 007 does not change Bond's character/personality at all. Within the fictional world, Craig's Bond will either die as a 00 agent or retire one day, either way, there will be a new 007. Why can't that new 007 be a woman? And what's wrong with exploring the idea of a new 007 on screen?
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    edited April 2019 Posts: 4,043
    Just a thought.
    Maybe Bond comes out of retirement because the new female 007 tells him Swann (Bond and her didn't work out) is now in danger and her assignment concerns investigating this.

    Bond returns to the service, out of duty to protect Madeline. The past PTS bit is a hint at this element but how it figures with the story will be revealed.

    Bond then has to find Madeline and protect her, due to their relationship not having worked and possibly ended badly, she isn't going to let him do this easily.

    The new female 007 is involved but this is about Bond protecting Swann from whatever threat has emerged from her past (something White did most likely) but she isn't exactly going to cooperate.
  • Posts: 16,149
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Just a thought.
    Maybe Bond comes out of retirement because the new female 007 tells him Swann (Bond and her didn't work out) is now in danger and her assignment concerns investigating this.

    Bond returns to the service, out of duty to protect Madeline. The past PTS bit is a hint at this element but how it figures with the story will be revealed.

    Bond then has to find Madeline and protect her, due to their relationship not having worked and possibly ended badly, she isn't going to let him do this easily.

    The new female 007 is involved but this is about Bond protecting Swann from whatever threat has emerged from her past (something White did most likely) but she isn't exactly going to cooperate.

    ....and in a now traditional Craig film finale...........................
    Swann dies in Bonds arms. We see Craig weep yet again and the film ends with a short epilogue scene that establishes the Bond we know and love is back.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Just a thought.
    Maybe Bond comes out of retirement because the new female 007 tells him Swann (Bond and her didn't work out) is now in danger and her assignment concerns investigating this.

    Bond returns to the service, out of duty to protect Madeline. The past PTS bit is a hint at this element but how it figures with the story will be revealed.

    Bond then has to find Madeline and protect her, due to their relationship not having worked and possibly ended badly, she isn't going to let him do this easily.

    The new female 007 is involved but this is about Bond protecting Swann from whatever threat has emerged from her past (something White did most likely) but she isn't exactly going to cooperate.

    ....and in a now traditional Craig film finale...........................
    Swann dies in Bonds arms. We see Craig weep yet again and the film ends with a short epilogue scene that establishes the Bond we know and love is back.
    That would be one way to deal with it, although something that doesn't involve her dying would be more refreshing after both Vesper and M, I would kind of like to see this end a bit more originally than in tragedy.

    I think this is going to be the end of the DC era and we will reset so this is going to be a full stop, however much a full stop is yet to be revealed.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Here is a novel idea: EON should stop milking the past.
    So you are saying the last should die kill it if you must.... so how does it feel to have made the worst Star Wars movie period Mr Johnson?

    I do agree with @PanchitoPistoles

    The least enjoyable recent entries have all tried to ape the style of what has come before. SP was laden with "homages" and call-back's. For me, they are lazy.

    I think it's time to be inventive and new. There is a reason why CR and SF were beloved. They were able to take the classic elements and remould them into a new and exciting narrative.

    I don't want Bond 25 to dine out on elements we love from previous films made 50 years ago. What I want is a fantastic film that, hopefully, in 50 years people will reference as a benchmark to be met.

    Casino Royale is an adaptation of a novel from 1952 if that isn’t aping the past I have no idea what is

    Oh dear. Adapting a novel and shoehorning homages for the sake of it are not the same thing. Also, cool that you're calling The Last Jedi the worst SW movie in a world where TPM, AotC and TFA exist.
    ggl007 wrote: »
    Riva dei Ginepri Instagram (Matera's beach):

    moaS066.jpg

    Imagine if Bond 25 picks up literally 21 hours after Spectre

    That's weird considering SPECTRE was supposedly set not too long after Skyfall. It would mean Bond 25 would be set around 2013/2014 :))
    jake24 wrote: »
    I don't see why Bond needs a "MeToo makeover" when every single encounter Craig's Bond has had with a woman has been undeniably consensual.

    +1


  • Posts: 6,709
    Univex wrote: »
    You know the name, you know the... eh... numb...oh well...

    They've really run out of ideas. Any day now our beloved character will be unrecognisable, an asexual bruit with no finesse. Not a womaniser gentleman, which is something of a paradox nowadays.
    A female agent becoming the next 007 does not change Bond's character/personality at all. Within the fictional world, Craig's Bond will either die as a 00 agent or retire one day, either way, there will be a new 007. Why can't that new 007 be a woman? And what's wrong with exploring the idea of a new 007 on screen?

    Wasn't talking about the
    female 007
    thing right there. I was referring to this metoo stuff and pc writers being brought on to work their blue pen penmanship kind of invisible censorship that has been plaguing every big budget film for the last couple of years. And no, Bond isn't suppose to die, and no, another man or woman isn't supposed to take his
    number
    . If this works within the story context, then fine. But it's all down the brothergate kind of idiotic innovation they've been messing about. I, for one, am not in favour of changing the Bond formula that much. Hell, hang me if you will. But that's my opinion. There are many variations to the formula. Fleming messed with them at will, and it worked for most times. TMWTGG, FRWL and YOLT come to mind. But hey, like I said, it can work, or...we can end up with some brothergate nonsense again. And two times in a row...it's enough for me. I'll be calling you up and hailing Nolan as a potential buyer for EON, that's for sure. Heck, I'd thought you'd be happy to hear such dismay, @PanchitoPistoles ;)

    Anyhow, like I've said over and over again, I still have faith in EON and fukunaga.

    We'll see.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    Having 007 become a woman would be the same as painting a duck with four legs, a furry tail, whiskers and no beak.
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    Walecs wrote: »
    Having 007 become a woman would be the same as painting a duck with four legs, a furry tail, whiskers and no beak.
    So 001 can be a woman. 002 can be a woman. 003 can be a woman. 004 can be a woman. 005 can be a woman. 006 can be a woman. Why can't 007 be a woman?

    Either Bond is immortal, or there will be a new 007 after him. Again, why can't the next 007 be a woman?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited April 2019 Posts: 13,767
    Because the audience wants to see Bond as 007. That's the simple point.

    Recognizing other possibilities. "Female 007" in a news story can be the 21st Century equivalent of "this time the Bond Girl is Bond's equal". It doesn't have to be literal or contentious.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
    Posts: 984
    Good lord, can we put this 'female Bond' stuff to bed now.

    There is nothing wrong with a female agent, a female 00, or anything of that type. But nobody, apart from the most hardcore left wing nutter wants to see a female James Bond. Simple.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    Univex wrote: »
    You know the name, you know the... eh... numb...oh well...

    They've really run out of ideas. Any day now our beloved character will be unrecognisable, an asexual bruit with no finesse. Not a womaniser gentleman, which is something of a paradox nowadays. I once got accused of harassment for constantly opening doors to women at college. And that was 20 years ago. Chivalry is not just dead, it was murdered. So will be being seductive or flirty. Soon we'll be left with a bunch of colourless characters. Bond will be the first to be hanged on the public square.

    Still hoping all, and I mean ALL of the rumours so far are false. Bland, stupid title and all.
    I still have faith in Fukunaga.

    If not, well, there's always Bond26 for me.

    I think you're on a very slippery slope here. Chivalry is dead, and that's good. You don't assume how people want to be treated, and instead you treat everyone well instead of just girls because... you wanted to be "nice".
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 4,619
    Roadphill wrote: »
    Good lord, can we put this 'female Bond' stuff to bed now.

    There is nothing wrong with a female agent, a female 00, or anything of that type. But nobody, apart from the most hardcore left wing nutter wants to see a female James Bond. Simple.
    Umm, it seems you are mixing up two completely different things. On one hand there are people pushing for a female Bond / Jane Bond, who would be a female vesion of James Bond. On the other hand there is this rumour about a female agent becoming the next 007 after Bond's retirement (this agent would not be a female version of James Bond, just the new 007). Two very different concepts.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    Walecs wrote: »
    Having 007 become a woman would be the same as painting a duck with four legs, a furry tail, whiskers and no beak.
    So 001 can be a woman. 002 can be a woman. 003 can be a woman. 004 can be a woman. 005 can be a woman. 006 can be a woman. Why can't 007 be a woman?

    Either Bond is immortal, or there will be a new 007 after him. Again, why can't the next 007 be a woman?

    I'll take you up on this.

    I think having Bond be a different ethnicity is a much better way to bring diversity to the series. I think swapping the genders will just change the character a little too much, to the point where you couldn't even call James James anymore.

    Even a quick Google search shows that women agree on this issue as well. Eva Green, Rachael Weiss, and numerous journalists think Bond should be a man.

    Bond, at the very least, needs to be a British male. His spirit and ego is masculine. Creating a "Jane Bond" would change the character too much, and it's actually insulting to women as well that they'd just be served a sloppy seconds character.

    Can you explain to me your argument?
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 4,619
    Walecs wrote: »
    Having 007 become a woman would be the same as painting a duck with four legs, a furry tail, whiskers and no beak.
    So 001 can be a woman. 002 can be a woman. 003 can be a woman. 004 can be a woman. 005 can be a woman. 006 can be a woman. Why can't 007 be a woman?

    Either Bond is immortal, or there will be a new 007 after him. Again, why can't the next 007 be a woman?

    I'll take you up on this.

    I think having Bond be a different ethnicity is a much better way to bring diversity to the series. I think swapping the genders will just change the character a little too much, to the point where you couldn't even call James James anymore.
    What??? They are not going to swap genders. This new 007 won't be "Jane Bond".
    Even a quick Google search shows that women agree on this issue as well.
    No, they don't. They say James Bond should not be turned into a woman. And they won't turn him into a woman. If this rumour is true, in Bond 25 you will have James Bond (still male) AND a female 007.
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 678
    The Guardian article points out some weird stuff such as the plot "rumoured" to be lifted from Never Dream of Dying, and that Malek is "rumoured" to be playing Blofeld, lol.

    I think neither of those are true.

    But regardless, you can tone the MeToo hysteria down as the article CLEARLY states PWB was brought in to punch up the script. To bring wit and quirkiness. Which is only a good thing. I want them to go back to Casino Royale type dialogue, where the Vesper/Bond interactions were dynamic and fascinating to hear, Spectre on the contrary felt full of robotic, lifeless dialogue, IMO of course.

    Interestingly, the article makes no mention of a female 007 or Bond on retirement. Also, this is a surprising fact I didn't personally know:
    Before Waller-Bridge, there has only ever been one female writer – the Irish-born Johanna Harwood, who had been secretary to Harry Saltzman, the first Bond producer along with Albert Broccoli (Barbara’s late father). Saltzman then brought Harwood in to help with the screenplay of their first film, Dr No, and for the second, From Russia With Love.
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    I like the involvement of Waller-Bridge a lot as the humour in the recent 007 outings have been more miss than hit. Killing Eve is bloody brilliant and funny as well. So perhaps this would be blessing in disguise.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
    edited April 2019 Posts: 2,541
    Can we please have a new thread or have this discussion for Female 007 or Jane bond or who should be next bond actor/actress. This is very tiresome. @peter recently shared a wonderful news about Jamaica and here we are nitpicking an article without much relevance to it.
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