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If that is the case, the good riddance to Boyle.
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Honestly I don't get what the point of having another 007 in the story is. What would it add to the plot?
@Pierce2Daniel what am I supposed to do let this thread get out of control? And let you mock people by calling them (Angry White Men) because they don't think the same as you.
Thanks. I don't read the Daily Mail "articles" (life's too short), but I don't know why anyone would think that Waller-Bridge (or anyone else) would even need to do something for a new Bond movie in response to MeToo - I don't see where the presumed problems are that need addressing. No idea why MeToo context is being assumed (I don't have time to read all rumours and speculation), or how that could fit into a Bond movie (though maybe it would and I just lack imagination). Obviously an assumption that a female character (007 or any other) would in itself make such a connection is... bizarre to put it mildly.
(Btw, I'm not familiar with her writing, but happy to hear she's considered to be good.)
But sexual politics and MeToo are not the same thing. MeToo is about something specific that I don't think is really a problem with modern Bond movies. Used to be, yes, but not now, IMO.
I'm aware of the Severine controversy, but I don't agree that Bond took sexual advantage of her vulnerable situation, though the writing and/or directorial choices were not exactly the best, and I get how Bond may have seemed callous there. If handled better it could have been made clearer that an abused person was making a choice of her own, free from any pressure, and because she really wanted to. I assumed that was what they were going for, and that's how I took it myself, but for sure it could have been done better. Obviously Silva sexually assaulted Bond, but it was presented as a creepy thing the bad guy did, and it was clear Bond hadn't given his consent and wasn't welcoming the advances. Of course some people had different opinions about that, too, but personally I thought that part was perfectly clear and very well written and directed. If Bond, as the hero, did a similar thing, and it was presented as the cool thing to do, it would be a very different situation, and therefore differently evaluated.
You say "Yes, we certainly do realise what the movement is about. But Bond has always been a punching bag for it" - for what? It's a new movement, so Bond can't have always been a punching bag for it. If it now deserved to be, then it should be, but like I said, I just don't see it myself.
The reason I was questioning what some people's understanding of MeToo is, was stuff like only-MeToo-want-to-see-female-007, or female-007-is-baiting-MeToo, which literally make zero sense to me. It's like "MeToo" is used as some sort of a slang term that has a meaning I'm not aware of. The fact that there are people here condescending towards or worried about MeToo is really peculiar in itself.
And yeah, well, people would just be better off not reading tabloid drivel in the first place. :)
I don’t know what changed between now and before. Things have largely fallen into line with my expectations. Guess we had different ideas about what a boyle/ fukunaga bond would look like.
Until then I'll continue to sift through this thread looking for legitimate information like a prospector searching for gold nuggets in a gravel filled stream.
And that's the gravy of it. You know this, and I know this. But while they're not the same thing, the series' history makes it a prime target for these baity articles. It's not right, but that's just how it is. Personally, I'd rather not use the term MeToo in relation to Bond. Ever. At all.
Absolutely, but so much of this thread is dominated by speculation based on opinion presented as fact.
Almost 2500 pages & maybe 50 of them contain legitimate information pertaining to B25. And as for the passionate debate, hard to say things haven’t gotten personal. I may not comment on everything, but I do read everything. This thread is toxic.
With all due respect, nobody is forced to contribute.
True, and many who could contribute thoughtful interaction choose to stay out of the muck.
Where do you think you’re going?
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I'll ignore the racist coment.
@PanchitoPistoles isn't because you don't listen to mods or been in trouble with them or?
Cubby Broccoli: "Bond is the only script written by a committee," he said. "I sit down with the writer, director and executive producer and we decide what we want in the script. The final decision," he added, "is made by me."
Cubby was ahead of his time. Everyone is doing what he did back in '61/'62...