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  • Escalus5Escalus5
    edited April 2019 Posts: 628
    I like Ana de Armas but would have rather seen her opposite a different Bond. Craig is way too old for her, and he's not charming enough to help us gloss over the age difference.

    The lack of a title is exceedingly lame and killed much of my interest in what came after. I'm not sure why anyone is over the moon about the synopsis, which seems like more of the same.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,124
    An hypothesis about the title : could it be that they had one, thought they'd go ahead with it until the last minute, but decided to pull off then due to lack of appeal or fear of backlash? Say if the title was indeed Eclipse.
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    I wont be at all surprised if David Dencik will deliver the standout performance of Bond 25!
    "I feel like I am working for the Pentagon"

    Is that his/EON's twisty way of saying that his character is working for them? I mean, assuming he is the scientist mentioned in the synopsis, would make sense that it's Leiter that asks Bond for help...
  • NS_writingsNS_writings Buenos Aires
    Posts: 544
    I'm quite happy with the plot and the cast overall. Dali Benssalah and David Rancik look quite terrifying as possible villains. Also, happy of not seeing the words "past" and "haunt" in the synopsis.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited April 2019 Posts: 17,756
    antovolk wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    I wont be at all surprised if David Dencik will deliver the standout performance of Bond 25!
    "I feel like I am working for the Pentagon"

    Is that his/EON's twisty way of saying that his character is working for them? I mean, assuming he is the scientist mentioned in the synopsis, would make sense that it's Leiter that asks Bond for help...

    Agree, I do get the feeling that this little line could be a little tease of sort – or maybe something to just keep fans speculating!
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited April 2019 Posts: 4,585
    Random thoughts:

    1. I wanted and called for Ana de Armas a couple of years ago after seeing her in BR2049. This is a big catch. I am very excited.

    2. If filming is beginning in Jamaica, then it's safe to say that the cast we saw today are the ones shooting there. But Wright was not on hand, so either his scenes are later and he's not there yet, OR his scenes will be filmed at Pinewood. One could follow a pretty logical-sounding sequence of events: Bond is there with Madeleine. Leiter comes to see him. Takes him to British embassy, where Moneypenny briefs him. Somehow Lashana Lynch's character will be involved in this briefing (?).

    3. Regarding the beach hut: EON wouldn't build that unless the thing is going to get shot (or blown) to hell. Keep that in mind.

    4. The kidnapped scientist story is a trite storyline in film and TV, going back to Six Million Dolar Man season 1, episode 3.

    5. Similarly, the story of a weather machine goes back to the first season of the animated Super Friends: The Weathermaker and continued with the awful GeoStorm starring Gerard Butler, whose career is now just about dead.

    6. I'm wondering if these live feeds will continue on a random basis throughout the filming. That would be terrific.

    7. And please tell me that Malek's character's feature will be long black fingernails. :-)
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,304
    First impression, I like the cast!

    I didn't feel that way with the SP press conference, which seemed all too obvious, particularly Waltz (you knew he was Blofeld) and Bellucci (you just knew she would be the secondary Bond girl). These faces feel fresher.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited April 2019 Posts: 17,756
    TripAces wrote: »
    2. If filming is beginning in Jamaica, then it's safe to say that the cast we saw today are the ones shooting there. But Wright was not on hand, so either his scenes are later and he's not there yet, OR his scenes will be filmed at Pinewood. One could follow a pretty logical-sounding sequence of events: Bond is there with Madeleine. Leiter comes to see him. Takes him to British embassy, where Moneypenny briefs him. Somehow Lashana Lynch's character will be involved in this briefing (?).

    Joan Strangways, MI6 Station Chief in Jamaica? :-D
  • FrankXavierFrankXavier
    Posts: 678
    Hmm... I dunno how I feel about this.

    I love Ana de Armas and suggested her as Bond girl so this is a good get.

    Also exciting that Jeffrey Wright is returning.

    And to have Rami Malek confirmed, of course.

    But that synopsis... sounds terribly generic. A kidnapped scientist? Some evil technology?

    Maybe this will be an adventure, mission-driven movie at least. I'll have to trust Fukunaga on this.
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited April 2019 Posts: 3,164
    I think I read somewhere at the time that Lupita was in talks that she may have been meant to be the fellow agent that Bond teams up with (that possibly is the new '007' with Bond retired, that the first Waller-Bridge reports mentioned). I'm guessing that's who Lashana is playing. And Ana de Armas more of what Variety described as the 'accomplice' involved with the villain like Camille in QOS.

    edit:
    Producers are continuing their search for two female roles — one a new MI6 agent and the other an accomplice similar to Olga Kurylenko’s character in “Quantum of Solace”
  • Escalus5Escalus5
    Posts: 628
    The Ralph Fiennes interview is unintentionally hilarious. I've rarely seen an actor look more tired and bored promoting a movie.
  • bondsumbondsum
    Posts: 3,333
    matt_u wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Personally, I believe they wouldn't need to show the kidnap of the scientist if Felix was to turn up at Bond's home only to repeat everything that we've already seen five minutes previously. I think the kidnap will happen before and off-screen, and the first time we hear about it is from Felix himself.

    The time-elapse makes sense in the PTS. They could even go so far as to digitally de-age Craig a little bit to show the difference with the passage of time.

    Despite the fact that having Vesper's grave in Matera doesn't make a lot of sense. To me Vesper felt like a done deal (from 007 perspective) when he threw away Vesper's videotape in SP... Plus, I don't see Bond hiding happily in Jamaica right after being chased in the PTS, even if that particular scene took place right after SP events. He's relaxing in Jamaica because he quitted when the job was done. But in the end it all depends how they would handle such situations...
    I'm unsure of where this Vesper's grave in Matera idea came from? I think that's just wild fan speculation and lifted straight from FYEO. The PTS could even involve Madeline and Bond getting married for all we know. Who honestly knows at this stage apart from the writers? However, if the movie jumps from a past event during the PTS to a present day one, post titles, then having Bond relaxing in Jamaica wouldn't be anymore of a stretch than Bond relaxing on a beach at the start of SF three months after having fallen to his death from a railway bridge before the SF titles, except this time round he's accompanied by Madeline. I'm vaguely aware that the Italian press printed something about Matera being in the PTS but I'm unsure of how they'd have been privy to any scripts or story outlines. Again, I think it was a bit of journalistic licence to print something completely fabricated disguised as a scoop.

    One thing Cary Fukunaga made clear was that they shot a sequence in advance in Norway due to the weather. This makes me think that the sequence comes much later in the movie, but had to be shot in advance before the snowy weather turned to warmer climes. I don't think this Norway setup is in the PTS.
  • QsCatQsCat London
    Posts: 253
    SkyfallCraig wrote: »
    I think we'll have a non-grownup-Bond PTS. Maybe a younger one one but probably a Bondless one

    what do you mean?..
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,585
    bondsum wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    Personally, I believe they wouldn't need to show the kidnap of the scientist if Felix was to turn up at Bond's home only to repeat everything that we've already seen five minutes previously. I think the kidnap will happen before and off-screen, and the first time we hear about it is from Felix himself.

    The time-elapse makes sense in the PTS. They could even go so far as to digitally de-age Craig a little bit to show the difference with the passage of time.

    Despite the fact that having Vesper's grave in Matera doesn't make a lot of sense. To me Vesper felt like a done deal (from 007 perspective) when he threw away Vesper's videotape in SP... Plus, I don't see Bond hiding happily in Jamaica right after being chased in the PTS, even if that particular scene took place right after SP events. He's relaxing in Jamaica because he quitted when the job was done. But in the end it all depends how they would handle such situations...
    I'm unsure of where this Vesper's grave in Matera idea came from? I think that's just wild fan speculation and lifted straight from FYEO. The PTS could even involve Madeline and Bond getting married for all we know. Who honestly knows at this stage apart from the writers? However, if the movie jumps from a past event during the PTS to a present day one, post titles, then having Bond relaxing in Jamaica wouldn't be anymore of a stretch than Bond relaxing on a beach at the start of SF three months after having fallen to his death from a railway bridge before the SF titles, except this time round he's accompanied by Madeline. I'm vaguely aware that the Italian press printed something about Matera being in the PTS but I'm unsure of how they'd have been privy to any scripts or story outlines. Again, I think it was a bit of journalistic licence to print something completely fabricated disguised as a scoop.

    One thing Cary Fukunaga made clear was that they shot a sequence in advance in Norway due to the weather. This makes me think that the sequence comes much later in the movie, but had to be shot in advance before the snowy weather turned to warmer climes. I don't think this Norway setup is in the PTS.

    Yep.
  • 00Ralf00Ralf Germany
    Posts: 149
    Was the piece of information that this would be a two day 'event' (meaning Thursday and Friday) ever officially confirmed? Should we be expecting something else to be announced tomorrow?

    I'm very happy with the cast, but EON need to hire some skilled marketing people who 'get' the internet and how to excitingly promote movies in this day and age. Those short clips released on Twitter are better than the entire conference we've witnessed today.
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited April 2019 Posts: 3,164
    00Ralf wrote: »
    Was the piece of information that this would be a two day 'event' (meaning Thursday and Friday) ever officially confirmed? Should we be expecting something else to be announced tomorrow?

    I'm very happy with the cast, but EON need to hire some skilled marketing people who 'get' the internet and how to excitingly promote movies in this day and age. Those short clips released on Twitter are better than the entire conference we've witnessed today.

    By Good Morning America. They're airing exclusive interviews with Craig, Harris and Fukunaga tomorrow.

    Edit:
  • 00Ralf00Ralf Germany
    Posts: 149
    antovolk wrote: »
    00Ralf wrote: »
    Was the piece of information that this would be a two day 'event' (meaning Thursday and Friday) ever officially confirmed? Should we be expecting something else to be announced tomorrow?

    I'm very happy with the cast, but EON need to hire some skilled marketing people who 'get' the internet and how to excitingly promote movies in this day and age. Those short clips released on Twitter are better than the entire conference we've witnessed today.

    By Good Morning America. They're airing exclusive interviews with Craig, Harris and Fukunaga tomorrow.

    Alright, thanks!
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,589
    antovolk wrote: »
    00Ralf wrote: »
    Was the piece of information that this would be a two day 'event' (meaning Thursday and Friday) ever officially confirmed? Should we be expecting something else to be announced tomorrow?

    I'm very happy with the cast, but EON need to hire some skilled marketing people who 'get' the internet and how to excitingly promote movies in this day and age. Those short clips released on Twitter are better than the entire conference we've witnessed today.

    By Good Morning America. They're airing exclusive interviews with Craig, Harris and Fukunaga tomorrow.

    Edit:

    Makes sense that we didn't get one because there isn't one.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
    Posts: 2,632
    Interesting to see that filming is officially starting on a Sunday.
  • Escalus5Escalus5
    Posts: 628
    You would think that at least one of the 15 writers who worked on the script could have developed a usable title.
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    You know what? My favourite bit was the synopsis. No younger agent, no personal stuff, no old foes, just Bond on a mission. Isn't that what we wanted all along?

    Also, Ana de Armas is superb casting. So are the others. Check out Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Mr. Robot, Blade Runner 2049,...

    Seydoux didn't say a word as of yet.

    Brilliant, Felix is back.

    13 years on and people still react badly to Craig being uncomfortable in interviews. It's just the way he is, damn it. Leave it be.

    The event was just fine. Loved the sun and the overall mood. Fukunaga's loafers and suit choice were lovely. Still the best looking bloke in this production. The girls looked wonderful. All of them.

    All and all, I've far more hyped now then I was before. Thank you EON.

    Also that trailer with the numbers was terrific.
  • Crazysoul95Crazysoul95
    Posts: 3,336
    Univex wrote: »
    You know what? My favourite bit was the synopsis. No younger agent, no personal stuff, no old foes, just Bond on a mission. Isn't that what we wanted all along?

    Also, Ana de Armas is superb casting. So are the others. Check out Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Mr. Robot, Blade Runner 2049,...

    Seydoux didn't say a word as of yet.

    Brilliant, Felix is back.

    13 years on and people still react badly to Craig being uncomfortable in interviews. It's just the way he is, damn it. Leave it be.

    The event was just fine. Loved the sun and the overall mood. Fukunaga's loafers and suit choice were lovely. Still the best looking bloke in this production. The girls looked wonderful. All of them.

    All and all, I've far more hyped now then I was before. Thank you EON.

    Also that trailer with the numbers was terrific.

    Nice to see another positive mind.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,756
    antovolk wrote: »
    00Ralf wrote: »
    Was the piece of information that this would be a two day 'event' (meaning Thursday and Friday) ever officially confirmed? Should we be expecting something else to be announced tomorrow?

    I'm very happy with the cast, but EON need to hire some skilled marketing people who 'get' the internet and how to excitingly promote movies in this day and age. Those short clips released on Twitter are better than the entire conference we've witnessed today.

    By Good Morning America. They're airing exclusive interviews with Craig, Harris and Fukunaga tomorrow.

    Edit:

    "Rami Malek has already done some Norway stuff." At Pinewood?
    Univex wrote: »
    You know what? My favourite bit was the synopsis. No younger agent, no personal stuff, no old foes, just Bond on a mission. Isn't that what we wanted all along?

    Still think there will be some personal stuff this time around. Happy for it to be as little as possible though!
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,589
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    I wont be at all surprised if David Dencik will deliver the standout performance of Bond 25!
    "I feel like I am working for the Pentagon"

    Is that his/EON's twisty way of saying that his character is working for them? I mean, assuming he is the scientist mentioned in the synopsis, would make sense that it's Leiter that asks Bond for help...

    Agree, I do get the feeling that this little line could be a little tease of sort – or maybe something to just keep fans speculating!

    I just like the fact that everything is so tight lipped. And that's what I got from this statement. Outside of Malek and Magnussen, we didn't hear anything early other than the usual cast. Which is good so we are hopefully not going to get massive leaks.
  • SonOfSean2SonOfSean2 United Kingdom
    Posts: 7
    Although todays live Steam was pretty dull, I have to say that Dan is looking in great shape and looks very, very handsome. He looks the best he's done (especially his hair - which IS important) since Casino Royale. And I'm saying this as a straight man btw. But Bond MUST look great. It's part of the deal.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,756
    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    I wont be at all surprised if David Dencik will deliver the standout performance of Bond 25!
    "I feel like I am working for the Pentagon"

    Is that his/EON's twisty way of saying that his character is working for them? I mean, assuming he is the scientist mentioned in the synopsis, would make sense that it's Leiter that asks Bond for help...

    Agree, I do get the feeling that this little line could be a little tease of sort – or maybe something to just keep fans speculating!

    I just like the fact that everything is so tight lipped. And that's what I got from this statement. Outside of Malek and Magnussen, we didn't hear anything early other than the usual cast. Which is good so we are hopefully not going to get massive leaks.

    Same here. Not complaining at all with the secrecy of Bond 25 so far. It's refreshing, and makes even me – who isn't the Craig era's greatest fan, excited.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Fully agreed, @Univex.
  • bondsumbondsum
    Posts: 3,333
    "Rami Malek has already done some Norway stuff," says @lizo.
    Then that was meant to be Rami in the mask? Interesting.

    I somehow don't see the "dangerous new technology" as being anything to do with climate change, especially when mankind's presence is already a far bigger global threat than anything a scientist could come up with. What would be the point? A rogue scientist has developed a dangerous new technology that can speed-up climate change much faster than our own carbon footprint or fossil fuel companies can?
  • TR007TR007
    Posts: 1,165
    zebrafish wrote: »
    Doesn't the clapperborad (scene 15 K) suggest that the PTS plays out in Norway? Fukanaga may have started his synopsis where the real film sets in. This suggests that Bond is not in the PTS.
    (By the way, where did the spoiler tags go?)
    Fifteen scenes into the movie would surely be post PTS and somewhere early on within the first act.
  • Visitor1982Visitor1982
    Posts: 49
    Craig looks like he wants to be anywhere, but there.

    Where is the enthusiasm Moore and Brosnan had?

    It's time for a new 007!
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