No Time To Die: Production Diary

12412422442462472507

Comments

  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited June 2016 Posts: 12,480
    Nolan is a fine director and I think would do a really excellent job on a Bond film. So we shall always have two camps about that, I think. Screenwriter is critical (naturally) and as for music, I would not mind Arnold back at all, but I'm happy for a new composer to come along.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 11,425
    Nolan should get a go. It's obvious. Would be nice if he did two with Craig. I'd be happy if they ignored the Blofeld plot for now - let another Bond pick that up later.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    Posts: 12,480
    I'd be happy with one or two from him. He builds beautiful films on a massive scale and handles storytelling well, in my opinion. I don't particularly care of Hans Zimmer for a Bond film, but that is not a lock, I think.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    dalton wrote: »
    Nolan represents everything that the franchise doesn't need to be right now. He's all about epic-length films with weak writing that rely on spectacle to get you through. We've had enough of that under Mendes, with Skyfall even serving as an even further homage to Nolan. EON needs to go in a completely different direction.
    I couldn't agree more. Only with Nolan directing a Bond film will drag the series into further misery and all of the aspects you've pointed out. He shouldn't do a Bond film. Not with Eon Productions, at least. Perhaps in the next 30-40 years when the IP is in public domain, then everyone will get a slice at it.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited June 2016 Posts: 12,480
    We shall just respectfully disagree on Nolan. I'd love his storytelling and vision for Bond. I don't have a fear he'd repeat himself (e.g., Batman).
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 11,425
    dalton wrote: »
    Nolan represents everything that the franchise doesn't need to be right now. He's all about epic-length films with weak writing that rely on spectacle to get you through. We've had enough of that under Mendes, with Skyfall even serving as an even further homage to Nolan. EON needs to go in a completely different direction.
    I couldn't agree more. Only with Nolan directing a Bond film will drag the series into further misery and all of the aspects you've pointed out. He shouldn't do a Bond film. Not with Eon Productions, at least. Perhaps in the next 30-40 years when the IP is in public domain, then everyone will get a slice at it.

    I've wondered about that before. When exactly does Bond become available for any one to start making alternative films? Aren't they making a TV show in Canada at the moment set in the 50s?

    I agree that Mendes's two entries are very Nolan-esque but that's no reason not to get the real deal.

    I personally prefer Nolan's earlier, tightly plotted thrillers to his more recent sprawling epics. A return to that earlier style would be welcome. Not keen on him just doing Bond as Batman - needs a different Approach. But I think he is capable.
  • Posts: 202
    For me, I think Nolan would be a fantastic (maybe even obvious) choice to helm. He's both a great storyteller and director. After he's done filming Dunkirk in a few months we might start hearing something. Also, he's a HUGE Bond fan. So if Warners are announced as new distributors then I think Nolan will get first pass. I'd put money on that. As for Craig returning? 50/50. The idea of him working with Nolan might tempt him back, failing that I could see (can see) Hiddleston stepping in.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    One thing is for sure, if Nolan makes a Bond film it won't be rubbish. However, he can't direct action all too well and his movies feel too heavy and clinical. There's just no sense of fun. Furthermore, I'm not a big fan of Zimmer and he'll definitely be the one to score it if Nolan directs; but who knows maybe this could potentially force Zimmer to do something different and step his stale game up.

    Anyway, I doubt Nolan will be announced as the next director. If he is expect the next Bond film to hit theatres in 2020 at the latest and 2019 at the earliest.
  • Posts: 11,425
    Nolan and Zimmer - it really could be a lot worse!

    I'd take Zimmer over Newman any day.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    I think Nolan could deliver an absolutely fantastic Bond film, or two.

    He has grappled with stories far more complex than SF & SP and made them quite compelling to me and many others. Zimmer is an excellent composer as well, who captures the mood in the films he composes perfectly.

    They both may have gotten a bit excessive over the past few films (success will do that to you) but as I've said before, I think Nolan has far too much respect for Bond to go on too much of a tangent. Assuming that he wouldn't is selling him short imho.

    After what we got with SP, Nolan would be a near godsend for me.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,575
    But can Nolan make a Bond film that would be under 2.5 hours? Don't get me wrong, I love all of his films, Interstellar and Inception, in particular. I mean the whole snow sequence in Inception was a homage to OHMSS. He can work wonders with a Bond film, provided he doesn't go off the rails.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    It will probably be a long Bond film, true, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will be a bad one. I found CR, SF & OHMSS all excellent, and they were reasonably lengthy films.

    The thing I've noticed with Nolan is his longer films are on account of the complexity of the narrative he is telling. I don't have a problem with it in that case, although about 2hrs or so would be ideal probably.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,575
    Oh I love those three as well. CR and SF are top 5 for me. The only thing that would concern me, and it may possibly won't happen is that when you hand the keys to a person who is a huge fan, that they cram in every possible homage and ideas. Or it could be fans like us, he knows where the franchise needs to go and how to make that happen.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Oh I love those three as well. CR and SF are top 5 for me. The only thing that would concern me, and it may possibly won't happen is that when you hand the keys to a person who is a huge fan, that they cram in every possible homage and ideas. Or it could be fans like us, he knows where the franchise needs to go and how to make that happen.
    I personally think we got the former in SP, which was overly homage driven & quite overtly (to me at least) derivative. I think EON will ensure that the next film (no matter who directs it) won't be so obvious, so I don't see that as a big concern. Nolan did homage Bond quite a few times with Inception (as you noted) and even with Batman (e.g Fox is a reimagined Q basically) and did a super job of it imho.

    I realize some think he can't direct action. I disagree. He is no Mann, but he is surely far better than Mendes. The truck sequence alone in TDK blows everything in the last two Bond films out of the window for tension and realism imho.
  • Posts: 1,631
    Oh I love those three as well. CR and SF are top 5 for me. The only thing that would concern me, and it may possibly won't happen is that when you hand the keys to a person who is a huge fan, that they cram in every possible homage and ideas. Or it could be fans like us, he knows where the franchise needs to go and how to make that happen.

    This is certainly another issue that bringing Nolan on board could result in.

    If EON is so keen on getting Nolan, maybe waiting a few films would be the better route. We've just gotten Nolan-lite the past couple of films. Let's get something fresh first before the series becomes to closely associated with that particular style.

  • Posts: 11,425
    Also Nolan seems to be a fan of LTK from the way he ripped off all the action from it in his last Batman movie. Anyone who likes Dalton's Bond movies can't be all bad.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Getafix wrote: »
    Also Nolan seems to be a fan of LTK from the way he ripped off all the action from it in his last Batman movie. Anyone who likes Dalton's Bond movies can't be all bad.
    I watched TDKR a couple of nights ago and that opening (LTK homage) plane heist is a work of art and very Bond like (right down to the apparent lack of CGI in the sequence). The only thing that hurt it for me was Bane's voice (which was dialed up for clarity). Magnificent sequence imho.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited June 2016 Posts: 4,116
    bondjames wrote: »
    I think Nolan could deliver an absolutely fantastic Bond film, or two.

    He has grappled with stories far more complex than SF & SP and made them quite compelling to me and many others. Zimmer is an excellent composer as well, who captures the mood in the films he composes perfectly.

    They both may have gotten a bit excessive over the past few films (success will do that to you) but as I've said before, I think Nolan has far too much respect for Bond to go on too much of a tangent. Assuming that he wouldn't is selling him short imho.

    After what we got with SP, Nolan would be a near godsend for me.

    I totally agree. Not every film Nolan makes is Batman. Nolan is a proven storyteller and is a fan of the series.

    An assumption but I also believe Nolan would have a better grasp on the character of Bond both the literary and the cinematic incarnations than Mendes. I would see us getting more Inception than Batman Reborn.

    As far as Zimmer, why not? Remember BB has actually met Zimmer I believe which fueled a lot of speculation on here. Namely how Zimmer would kill the sound of Bond and we would all be deaf.
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 9,843
    Though to be fair Zimmer did say he was retiring from the superhero genre so maybe that would include 007? Perhaps James Newtown HowArd will be the composer instead?

    Assuming of course Nolan is directing bond 25
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2016 Posts: 23,883
    @mcdonbb, I watched Interstellar a few nights back, and Zimmer's score for the space sequences is the best I've heard outside of Barry (for YOLT/MR) and in some respects is actually better imho. His work on Angels and Demons is superb as well. I don't have a problem with Zimmer at all. Both he and Nolan are very talented and if they have the privilege to be involved with Bond, I'm sure will step up and surprise all of us.
  • Posts: 9,843
    Though if (and this is a huge if) if Nolan is directing bond 25 and since he likes to use his regulars and Craig might be done with 007 does this mean we might have Tom Hardy or Cillian Murphy as 007 #7? Personally I would t mind Hardy just food for thought
  • edited June 2016 Posts: 4,408
    Rumour: Aidan Turner expected to be announced as new Bond after betting suspended.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/irish-actor-aidan-turner-set-8187518
    CkJa9XFWYAApojS.jpg:large


    It's the same old story over again. A few weeks ago it was Hiddleston.

    I wasn't all too keen on Turner until I saw ATTWN. He has a certain cruel and dark streak in him that is very reminiscent of Dalton. There is a certain machiavellian charm to him in the show.

    He was even photographed by an Aston Martin over the weekend

    CkqR1WdWEAAtw18.jpg:large



    Naomie Harris unsure if she'll return for Bond 25
    http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a797722/naomie-harris-wants-to-be-in-next-bond-film-007/
    gallery-1465906683-naomie-harris-diamonds-forever-ball.jpg
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Though if (and this is a huge if) if Nolan is directing bond 25 and since he likes to use his regulars and Craig might be done with 007 does this mean we might have Tom Hardy or Cillian Murphy as 007 #7? Personally I would t mind Hardy just food for thought
    This, imho, is the biggest concern I have with Nolan, and would be a disqualifier. He tends to use the same cast over and over again, and his choices aren't the best in this regard, particularly on the female front (Maggie Gyllenhaal wouldn't have been my first choice for TDK for instance).
  • Posts: 9,843
    Rumour: Aidan Turner expected to be announced as new Bond after betting suspended.

    http://www.irishmirror.ie/showbiz/irish-showbiz/irish-actor-aidan-turner-set-8187518
    CkJa9XFWYAApojS.jpg:large


    It's the same old story over again. A few weeks ago it was Hiddleston.

    I wasn't all too keen on Turner until I saw ATTWN. He has a certain cruel and dark streak in him that is very reminiscent of Dalton. There is a certain machiavellian charm to him in the show.

    He was even photographed by an Aston Martin over the weekend

    CkqR1WdWEAAtw18.jpg:large

    Some one wake up @mendes4lyfe. It's his moment to shine of course Untill next week when betting stops on Tom Hardy as 007 #7

  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    If we get a Bond movie every 3-4 years, I'm fine if next movie will be 2.5 hours long.
    Getafix wrote: »
    dalton wrote: »
    Nolan represents everything that the franchise doesn't need to be right now. He's all about epic-length films with weak writing that rely on spectacle to get you through. We've had enough of that under Mendes, with Skyfall even serving as an even further homage to Nolan. EON needs to go in a completely different direction.
    I couldn't agree more. Only with Nolan directing a Bond film will drag the series into further misery and all of the aspects you've pointed out. He shouldn't do a Bond film. Not with Eon Productions, at least. Perhaps in the next 30-40 years when the IP is in public domain, then everyone will get a slice at it.

    I've wondered about that before. When exactly does Bond become available for any one to start making alternative films? Aren't they making a TV show in Canada at the moment set in the 50s?

    There were talks about a canadian Bond movie but as far as I understand the people interested failed to find someone who produced it.

    Bond will enter public domain in 2035 in Europe, whereas in the USA each book will enter public domain 95 years after its first publication date.
  • Posts: 1,631
    The only thing that we learn from these stories is that if any of us had a large chunk of disposable income we were willing to blow on something so frivolous, we could get whatever name we wanted into the headlines as the guy set to be announced as Bond simply by putting down some bets.

    Regardless, I hope that the tabloids keep Turner's name in the press. The longer his name is bandied about by the tabloids, the less likely it is that he will be the next Bond.
  • Posts: 1,092
    The hype of Nolan directing a Bond film alone would be reason enough to get him in the chair. It would take the series to a new level.
  • Posts: 1,092
    Walecs wrote: »
    If we get a Bond movie every 3-4 years, I'm fine if next movie will be 2.5 hours long.
    Getafix wrote: »
    dalton wrote: »
    Nolan represents everything that the franchise doesn't need to be right now. He's all about epic-length films with weak writing that rely on spectacle to get you through. We've had enough of that under Mendes, with Skyfall even serving as an even further homage to Nolan. EON needs to go in a completely different direction.
    I couldn't agree more. Only with Nolan directing a Bond film will drag the series into further misery and all of the aspects you've pointed out. He shouldn't do a Bond film. Not with Eon Productions, at least. Perhaps in the next 30-40 years when the IP is in public domain, then everyone will get a slice at it.

    I've wondered about that before. When exactly does Bond become available for any one to start making alternative films? Aren't they making a TV show in Canada at the moment set in the 50s?

    There were talks about a canadian Bond movie but as far as I understand the people interested failed to find someone who produced it.

    Bond will enter public domain in 2035 in Europe, whereas in the USA each book will enter public domain 95 years after its first publication date.

    Doesn't matter much though because EON has trademarked the name James Bond.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    The_Reaper wrote: »
    Walecs wrote: »
    If we get a Bond movie every 3-4 years, I'm fine if next movie will be 2.5 hours long.
    Getafix wrote: »
    dalton wrote: »
    Nolan represents everything that the franchise doesn't need to be right now. He's all about epic-length films with weak writing that rely on spectacle to get you through. We've had enough of that under Mendes, with Skyfall even serving as an even further homage to Nolan. EON needs to go in a completely different direction.
    I couldn't agree more. Only with Nolan directing a Bond film will drag the series into further misery and all of the aspects you've pointed out. He shouldn't do a Bond film. Not with Eon Productions, at least. Perhaps in the next 30-40 years when the IP is in public domain, then everyone will get a slice at it.

    I've wondered about that before. When exactly does Bond become available for any one to start making alternative films? Aren't they making a TV show in Canada at the moment set in the 50s?

    There were talks about a canadian Bond movie but as far as I understand the people interested failed to find someone who produced it.

    Bond will enter public domain in 2035 in Europe, whereas in the USA each book will enter public domain 95 years after its first publication date.

    Doesn't matter much though because EON has trademarked the name James Bond.
    Trademarks can be expired very easily. With or without Eon, Casino Royale itself will enter in public domain in the 2050s, and the rest will follow. When Fleming's original books are all in, the continuation novels and subsequent adaptations won't matter, at all. James Bond will be a public domain character.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited June 2016 Posts: 4,116
    EoN I believe trademarked the Bond logo. I'm not sure how all that plays out in the public domain.

    I'll be dead most likely by then anyway. In my 80s at least.

    Back to B25. How much do we even have of B25? Script? Spec script? Napkin doodles? Or yuk Logan's outline?

    Seems odd to make announcements without at least something written. Every other Bond announcement had a script or draft and was in full development or preproduction even.
Sign In or Register to comment.