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  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been posted before:

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    From EL SANTO in Archivo007.

    In his answer to the third question Dan alludes to the fact that he thinks the stepbrother angle was a winner.

    If that's the case I'd sooner he went. SF barely got away with the delving into Bond's past schtick but SP jumped the shark in this regard.

    If a pre-requisite of Dan doing staying on is more storylines along these lines then it's time for a parting of the ways.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    "One of the great things about the movie is that we could bring in Bond's past and make him confront it."

    You say "great," I say "bad."
    @Creasy47, I was going to quote that and say exactly the same thing!

    But, I already saw you beating me to it. :D
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    @TheWizardOfIce, it's even more shocking, considering all the times Craig/Mendes would mention how much love they have for Fleming's work. How they somehow read the Bond novels and think the step brother idea was a great one is beyond me.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    The step brother idea was obviously an invention to attract the teenagers... Even teenagers found it ridiculous and too damn out of place.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    When I first read about that idea, I assumed it was a bit if lazy journalism.
    As after all it was the big joke in the last Austin Power's film, and thought
    Bond wouldn't go near an idea like that. How wrong I was.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    Posts: 5,767
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    "One of the great things about the movie is that we could bring in Bond's past and make him confront it."

    You say "great," I say "bad."
    Very much so. As much as I love and respect what Craig did as Bond actor, I have pretty low esteem for his creative input beyond acting. To put it euphemistically.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been posted before:

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    From EL SANTO in [url="http://www.archivo007.com/foros/viewtopic.php?
    f=23&t=7696&start=660"]Archivo007[/url].

    Eh no no I concur ...no more confronting the past.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    MGM Completes $1 Billion Credit Restructuring
  • Risico007Risico007
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    So what does this mean.

    Plus the step brother angle has been explored in bond a lot not nesscarily in explicit terms but looking at Skyfall Goldeneye etc

    The issue here is the director is known for Oscar winning family dramas what in God name did people think was gonna happen?
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    ggl007 wrote: »
    Sorry if this has been posted before:

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    From EL SANTO in Archivo007.





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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    @Risico007, a "step brother" angle - or a "brother" angle of any sort - isn't explored in either of those films. It's the outright naming of them being stepbrothers that makes it such a poor script decision. Could've had so many different motivations that were much more plausible.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    "My father told me to "Treat" him like a little Brother. "

    They
    Are
    Not
    Step
    Brothers!
    ~X(
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    Murdock wrote: »
    "My father told me to "Treat" him like a little Brother. "

    They
    Are
    Not
    Step
    Brothers!
    ~X(

    They are foster brothers, technically...
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    "My father told me to "Treat" him like a little Brother. "

    They
    Are
    Not
    Step
    Brothers!
    ~X(

    They are foster brothers, technically...

    If it was a permanent living situation but it wasn't. So they are nothing more than past acquaintances.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    More like foster brothers ;) and I think there may have been a winter of
    Forbidden love ? ( Hence the line " what makes you think this is my first
    Time " in SF) Blowie is so annoyed that Bond never returned his calls or texts
    That it fuelled his lust for revenge. :D
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    The true problem is the fact that the movie presented Bond and Blofeld being childhood acquaintances. It was asinine as an idea and flat out retarded in its execution.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    It's not as bad as it could have been. It could have been much much worse. Thank goodness it wasn't.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    The fact that they were childhood acquaintances was a questionable decision, no doubt. It's probably the film's biggest flaw, but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it does others.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    jake24 wrote: »
    The fact that they were childhood acquaintances was a questionable decision, no doubt. It's probably the film's biggest flaw, but it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it does others.

    Agreed. When I first read about it in the leaks, it bothered me to know in but it was played way the hell down in the final film so those subtle touches didn't bother me at all.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    I guess it annoys fans but the average movie customer, probably just thinks ...
    " cool that Blofeld dude, knew Bond as a kid, ..... awesome !" ;)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,959
    It still exists, and that's bad enough for me. Someone was paid money to come up with the grand idea of giving Bond and Blofeld a childhood connection to one another, and it's even more disconcerting that the likes of Craig and Mendes feel it was an excellent idea.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    The Steven Knight news is interesting. I haven't seen Peaky Blinders but I have seen Hummingbird, which he wrote and directed. It's a Jason Statham film but it's not an action film or even a crime thriller (although organised crime does play a part), it's more of a drama. It's a great film, a really well shot, interesting look at the darker side of modern London.

    I'd be interested to see how similar to that Bond 25 would be if this rumour turns out to be true. That was quite a bleak film, with a tortured PTSD stricken protagonist. Would Bond 25 be similar in tone I wonder?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    I'll take that 100 times over believing Colonel Moon got magic plastic surgery to be Gustav Graves.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited June 2016 Posts: 40,959
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'll take that 100 times over believing Colonel Moon got magic plastic surgery to be Gustav Graves.

    Hey now, it doesn't get more realistic than a "weird, psychedelic light mask." It's what Bond uses every time they switch actors, I'm sure.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Oh I don't know. I've read Simon Cowell uses one. ;)
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I'll take that 100 times over believing Colonel Moon got magic plastic surgery to be Gustav Graves.

    Hey now, it doesn't get more realistic than a "weird, psychedelic light mask." It's what Bond uses every time they switch actors, I'm sure.

    If that were true I'd look like Pierce Brosnan by now! ;)
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,843
    So with the MGM restructure does this mean that bond 25 will be released internally?
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    Posts: 2,115
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    It still exists, and that's bad enough for me. Someone was paid money to come up with the grand idea of giving Bond and Blofeld a childhood connection to one another, and it's even more disconcerting that the likes of Craig and Mendes feel it was an excellent idea.

    The current Hawaii Five-0 television series did the same thing with Wo Fat. It wasn't enough for him to be a great spy/criminal mastermind, he had to have a "personal" reason to hate McGarrett and be the author of all his pain.
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    Posts: 2,115
    Risico007 wrote: »
    So with the MGM restructure does this mean that bond 25 will be released internally?

    Gives MGM more financial flexibility. Its interest costs go down. Some debt paid off. The rest at a lower interest rate. Hard to say whether that means MGM releases Bond 25 by itself. It just continues MGM's financial improvements.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited June 2016 Posts: 40,959
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    It still exists, and that's bad enough for me. Someone was paid money to come up with the grand idea of giving Bond and Blofeld a childhood connection to one another, and it's even more disconcerting that the likes of Craig and Mendes feel it was an excellent idea.

    The current Hawaii Five-0 television series did the same thing with Wo Fat. It wasn't enough for him to be a great spy/criminal mastermind, he had to have a "personal" reason to hate McGarrett and be the author of all his pain.

    Glad I stopped watching the show when I did, then! Sounds like garbage. Loved the series premiere, but two or three episodes later, it already felt like a generic, standard network TV cop show, so I stopped (while I was ahead).
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