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  • dinovelvetdinovelvet
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    gklein wrote: »
    Craig got a co-producer credit on SP mainly to compete, mythologically, with the Mission Impossible series. Part of the public respect for the MI series comes from the fact that its star is also its producer -- plus the fact that Cruise does a lot of his own stunts. This is the reason that a marketing point was made of saying "that's really Craig running across those roof tops in SPECTRE" (as though that truly compares to really hanging outside a flying airplane or outside a skyscraper).

    I think you are vastly overestimating how much anyone at EON cares about anything to do with Mission Impossible. Vice versa I think its a different story though...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    BondBug wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I don't know obviously but I kinda get the feeling Craig wasn't entertaining not returning for B25 at the start of SP.

    My thoughts exactly. SP ends ready to see certain characters return who have not been killed. This suggests to me at least that B25 will have a story arc that encompasses part of SP. That would look silly with a fresh Bond actor, as a new actor needs to own the role, not simply be a Daniel Craig stand in. I believe, therefore, that B25 was discussed with Craig while or before the script to SP was developed, and he will return.

    The only thing we know about Bond 25 is that Craig will return.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
    Posts: 4,325
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    BondBug wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    I don't know obviously but I kinda get the feeling Craig wasn't entertaining not returning for B25 at the start of SP.

    My thoughts exactly. SP ends ready to see certain characters return who have not been killed. This suggests to me at least that B25 will have a story arc that encompasses part of SP. That would look silly with a fresh Bond actor, as a new actor needs to own the role, not simply be a Daniel Craig stand in. I believe, therefore, that B25 was discussed with Craig while or before the script to SP was developed, and he will return.

    The only thing we know about Bond 25 is that Craig will return.

    It will be produced by Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli :)
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,843
    While I don't think Guy Richie will direct Bond 25 (honestly as much as I would like him it feels like a left over from the Brosnan era) I am happy we have a Bond 25 rumor this early on remeber with both Spectre and Skyfall we had really no big rumors at this point and we wouldn't get anything to talk about for a few months. At least we have something to talk about right now
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Personally I never spotted the connection between the Brosnan era films and Guy Ritchie's style. They both may be over-the-top but they are nothing alike.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    Personally I never spotted the connection between the Brosnan era films and Guy Ritchie's style. They both may be over-the-top but they are nothing alike.

    Me neither. Ritchie is over the top in a different way.
  • Cloud007Cloud007
    Posts: 29
    I really liked "The Man from U.N.C.L.E" so I think Ritchie could do a good job as long as he remembers not to go style over substance with the film.
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited December 2015 Posts: 11,425
    There's a lot of snootyness about Guy Ritchie but I think he's proven many times over that he'd be a suitable director for a fun Bond film. Lock Stock and Sherlock Holmes were all very good entertainment. I actually really enjoyed UNCLE but that particular ship was sunk by the astonishingly wooden Cavill (how Martin Campbell could ever have wanted him for Bond I do not know).

    I can't see Craig wanting to work with Ritchie but perhaps for a future film, with a new Bond, it might work well. No flash backs though please. Although the article says Ritchie and Craig are friends, so who knows.

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.
  • Cloud007Cloud007
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    Getafix wrote: »

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.

    I agree with you. I think a lot of that cooperation between Bond and the military has really been lost since a while ago. Maybe the thought of needing the help of others may look "un-cool" to some audiences?. I think that it's a wonderful thing to see him working at the same level as some elite units. The combined assault in "The Spy Who Loved Me" is a great example of this.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Cloud007 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »

    One of the bits I loved in Uncle was the Royal Navy commando assault towards the end. I'd love something like that in a Bond movie. Bond arriving by night in a WW2 style hit and run commando raid - blacked up, beret, light machine gun. Lots of 'Commander Bond'. It would be Bond escaping all the angst, reconnecting with his military past and just getting stuck in. Brilliant.

    I agree with you. I think a lot of that cooperation between Bond and the military has really been lost since a while ago. Maybe the thought of needing the help of others may look "un-cool" to some audiences?. I think that it's a wonderful thing to see him working at the same level as some elite units. The combined assault in "The Spy Who Loved Me" is a great example of this.

    I used to live it when Bond teamed up with some local allies. Like the Japanese secret service and the ninjas in YOLT.

    I suppose the last time this was done was the Mujahadeen in TLD so you can understand their reluctance to do it again for a while.

    But it would be great for Bond to have a bit of Royal Navy back up.
  • Cloud007Cloud007
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    Getafix wrote: »

    I used to live it when Bond teamed up with some local allies. Like the Japanese secret service and the ninjas in YOLT.

    I suppose the last time this was done was the Mujahadeen in TLD so you can understand their reluctance to do it again for a while.

    But it would be great for Bond to have a bit of Royal Navy back up.

    Ouch, haha. If that was indeed the last time then well it's...unfortunate. I think the CIA was helping Bond in Goldeneye and Die Another Day but I believe we didn't see any combined assaults, Bond did all the heavy lifting.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,970
    What about Craig himself directing a Bond film as well as starring in it?

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    edited December 2015 Posts: 11,139
    Haha no. He's no film director and if just starring as Bond is too much for him why on Earth would he burden himself with directing it.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Haha no. He's no film director and if just starring as Bond is too much for him why on Earth would he burden himself with directing it.

    He can't make a worse job than William Shatner.. ;)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Haha no. He's no film director and if just starring as Bond is too much for him why on Earth would he burden himself with directing it.

    He can't make a worse job than William Shatner.. ;)
    I hasten to think what other items could be threatened to be slashed during production.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Cloud007 wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »

    I used to live it when Bond teamed up with some local allies. Like the Japanese secret service and the ninjas in YOLT.

    I suppose the last time this was done was the Mujahadeen in TLD so you can understand their reluctance to do it again for a while.

    But it would be great for Bond to have a bit of Royal Navy back up.

    Ouch, haha. If that was indeed the last time then well it's...unfortunate. I think the CIA was helping Bond in Goldeneye and Die Another Day but I believe we didn't see any combined assaults, Bond did all the heavy lifting.

    Mathis is the best of the recent 'allies'.

    I'd like to see Bond in a combat situation with a team though. The end of FYEO is good, where they mount the assault on the monastery with Columbo's guys.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    As long as we don't see colour coded good guy/bad guy outfits again, I'll be happy (I know some want to see that again, but I'm not a fan).

    I liked the GE finale......Bond and girl against the entire lot of bad guys. That's the best ending I've seen in the last 20 yrs.
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited December 2015 Posts: 11,425
    Bond on his own against the world always looks a bit daft to me. I love a bit of colour coded good on bad guy stuff. The back up team take out the goons while Bond goes for the villain.

    I always thought QOS would have benefited from a bit of that. When Bond discovers the underground dam, it should have been a hive of construction activity (a la AVTAK) with boiler-suited goons and big earth moving trucks everywhere. Cue a finale that includes some dam-busting and a few drowning goons.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I think the last time we got a good old fashioned colour coded fest was MR's laser fight in space. They probably OD'd on it there, but then again, it's been 35 yrs since we've seen it so it may be time. As long as we get the 007 theme playing during the finale (also 35 yrs since) I'm game
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    If Blofeld returns in B25 he must have boiler suited goons.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
    Posts: 1,970
    Getafix wrote: »
    Bond on his own against the world always looks a bit daft to me. I love a bit of colour coded good on bad guy stuff. The back up team take out the goons while Bond goes for the villain.

    Lol LTK the whole movie was Bond & Pam vs all the world.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Getafix wrote: »
    Bond on his own against the world always looks a bit daft to me. I love a bit of colour coded good on bad guy stuff. The back up team take out the goons while Bond goes for the villain.

    Lol LTK the whole movie was Bond & Pam vs all the world.

    True. LTK is not one of my favourites though. Although it sort of makes sense in terms of the plot.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Guy Ritchie? Seriously? No.
  • Cloud007Cloud007
    edited December 2015 Posts: 29
    Getafix wrote: »
    Mathis is the best of the recent 'allies'.

    I'd like to see Bond in a combat situation with a team though. The end of FYEO is good, where they mount the assault on the monastery with Columbo's guys.

    I really like Craig's Mathis and Leiter as well. I wish they could portray them more as a team in future movies. One of the things I love about the Casino Royale novel is how well they work together. Leiter has also been pretty good, his biggest part so far was in QoS where I think he did a solid job.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Guy Ritchie? Seriously? No.
    I'm with you.
  • DrShatterhandDrShatterhand Garden of Death, near Belfast
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Guy Ritchie? Seriously? No.
    I'm with you.

    +1

    I wouldn't want Ritchie's gimmicky visuals and leaden screenwriting 'skills' anywhere near Bond thank you very much.

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    I like Ritchie, but not for Bond. Not now at least.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    jake24 wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Guy Ritchie? Seriously? No.
    I'm with you.

    Add me to this list chaps.
  • BondBugBondBug
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    Personally, I think that there isn't a great deal of difference between many of these directors of big movies. If Sam Mendes had directed Quantum of Solace, based on the same script that Marc Forster had, nobody would be talking about Oscars and they would not have asked him back. If Guy Ritchie had directed the Skyfall script, he would be the man of the moment.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    BondBug wrote: »
    Personally, I think that there isn't a great deal of difference between many of these directors of big movies. If Sam Mendes had directed Quantum of Solace, based on the same script that Marc Forster had, nobody would be talking about Oscars and they would not have asked him back. .

    I agree, but think that Martin Campbell would have made a more watchable, better paced film.

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