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All we are waiting on here is for them to sort a distribution deal out. How long does it take?
And Craig in turn may be waiting for a script or direction of the next film from EON before making any decision. Catch-22. Who makes the first move? Or have decisions already been made and are being kept under wraps by all involved parties?
I dont think we will hear anything until spring/summer of 2017 & if thats the case I would expect a November 6th 2019 release date.
Craig not being contractually obligated to EoN imo means that it should be EoN making the first move to get him back or to give him his marching orders. With the way SF and especially SP have gone down creatively, If I were Craig I'd want to first know where the story's going, who's writing the script, which directors are being considered and at the very least a treatment of what can be expected from Bond 25 before signing on to something that could be abysmal.
Also, the situation with distribution rights needs to be resolved big time. If EoN were leaning towards WB, they're probably rethinking that decision since that article from THR came out. Are EoN being lazy? Maybe just a bit but I don't think they're thinking, "we could give a fuck less about the next film right now". Right now, I think things are too up in the air and uncertain to really make any sort of commitment or offer any real news
I personally think it was a huge mistake to wait the extra year for Mendes, since the finished result didn't turn my crank one bit. On the contrary actually. So you could say I didn't really get my 'Bond fix' last year, despite waiting 3 yrs for it.Therefore, I just can't wait for the next one, Craig or no Craig.
Just get on with it, please.
Well said. It's not like that extra year waiting for Mendes was used wisely in getting the script right. I would have been just as thrilled (even more so) had they got Martin Campbell to do SP, and had it out by 2014. Had that been the case we might have ended up with a superior Bond film. In addition, right now instead of discussing how everything is up in the air, we might have been discussing the newest film currently wrapping production for release this November.
You're joking right?
The smallest violin in the world playing just for Dan.
Ask the average child working 16 hour days in a Nike factory for $1 a day or a guy with 3 kids to feed getting up at 6am every day to take 2 buses across town to his depressing and repetitive job in a factory how cushy a job being Bond is.
Any job that makes you a multimillionaire is automatically extremely cushy. And when you only have to work 6 months every 3 years that just makes it even cushier.
And lets not start on the free suits, watches, cars etc that get thrown at you. I think 99.99% of the world would settle for having to spend weeks in the gym at the start, work long hours for 6 months, maybe get banged about a bit filming the stunts and then spend a month doing press junkets at the end for 1% of the money Dan is on so lets not shed any tears for his plight.
Not about hyperexaggerated comments by caustic Bond fans anyway.
Your snarky comments are based on the assumption that DC is being a complete ass in giving the finger to the franchise that made him a household name.
The best guess would be: everyone, EON, DC, and anyone else involved, are in a holding pattern. That's why there is no official announcement.
I am sure that they are doing all work they can, all the time to deliver the best possible product. This is just not the right time to announce something.
Everyone calm down, it is unfortunately not our right to claim a new Bondfilm whenever you want.
That's EONs "cushy" right.
Not in the slightest. At the moment all we know is that we know nothing. I am just speculating (which is the title of the thread) on reasons for a potential delay and merely pointing out that an actor wanting to rest is not an acceptable excuse for delaying production. At the moment there are other reasons that are theoretically holding us back, although I'm far from worried at the moment that there even is a delay. 2018 is still very possible and I dont think theres any need to panic yet that theres been no announcement about anything.
But I am worried by the precedent set by waiting an extra year for Mendes. If they're happy to do that then will certainly be happy to wait till 2019 for Dan if he does decide he cant be bothered for another year.
I think they need to make it contractual with the next guy that you sign on for an initial run of 3 which will be released back to back every 3 years (I'm resigned to the fact that every 2 years is gone and not coming back).
EON is waiting for a new distributor.
Craig is contracted for a 5th film.
His last two have combined for nearly $2 billion at the BO.
Daniel Craig is still Bond.
These are the only facts thus far I am aware of.
Why? It just happened with CR and QoS. That wasn't that long ago. In fact, a 2 year gap (or less with regards to Connery and Moore) has occurred between the 1st and 2nd film of every single Bond actor we've had (assuming they have done 2 or more which is everyone sans Laz).
Star Wars is another exception, but that is the premier franchise of a major studio. (Yes, even bigger than Marvel movies!)
I think between the first and second film of a particular actor is the only time we are likely to get it now, to try and get him accepted by the public.
Now it just seems that EON are not prepared enough to do it on a regular basis. To maintain a 2 year turnaround you need to be writing the script in the january after the previous film was released to get it in decent shape by the autumn. Thats just not happening. It just seems to take a lot more out of them than it used to (or maybe Cubby was a workaholic?) and they dont seem to want to start thinking about the next one until a good 6 months has passed by which time of course youve missed the boat for a 2 year turnaround.
Not that any extra time seems to make much difference in the overall quality of the script (looking at you SP) but the last film to have a 2 year gap was a horribly rushed affair when with a bit more polish it could have been a cracking entry (of course the writers strike didnt help but the fact they were already locked in to the 2 year release date meant they just had to press ahead with Dan and Forster writing as they went along).
Since 95 (the true start of post Cubby era) we have had gaps of 2, 2, 3, 4, 2, 4, 3 giving us an average of 2.85 years. I just cant seeing us pulling that back to the slightly less than once every 2 years average from 62 - 89. Not that I'm really criticising them for it. It is what it is. I just dont want it to slip to 4 years as then youd be only getting 3 films per actor.
That's true, but his 5th film could be an optional film, for all we know, so we can't be certain he will actually do the film until EON confirms his involvement. And until he announces he resigns, we can't know that he won't be in Bond 25.
Well, it is optional. Dan's in an open contract, so after SP if he wanted to go ahead with his fifth he could, if he didn't, they'd move on. Of course other decisions are in the way of us getting confirmation on things like that, but it's all down to Dan's choice here, when the ball actually gets rolling on MGM's side.
We know we have had four year gaps before and the film just came out last fall.
It sucks waiting but Craig is still Bond. It's not like Spectre flopped.
My guess is no official news until next year honestly.
Then we get casting rumors and director rumors and typical plot/location rumors.
Same thing every year. I try and avoid Bond news for awhile because I know it's
all BS. Yes we are going to ditch a guy who made us billions for a 50 year old black guy
whose biggest roles were a background character in Thor and Netflix lmao
Yes, we are going to ditch a guy who has made us hundreds of millions for a 40 year old Blonde guy, whose biggest roles were a gangster movie and a BBC series lmao.
AGAIN, they did NOT wait an extra year for Mendes. They NEVER intended for Bond 24 to come out in 2014. Barbara Broccoli and Daniel Craig, in an interview, ridiculed a Sony executive for saying Bond 24 would be out in 2014. The link to that interview was provided earlier in this very thread.
Although Michael G. Wilson said late last year he was not.
Wilson ...a lawyer by the way said Craig had an option for a 5th.
That's not what Wilson, still a lawyer by the way, said at the 0:45 mark of this interview clip:
Q: Do you have a contract with him to do another picture?
Wilson: No. We don't have a contract.
So yes, it's an agreement sans contract that Dan and EON have come to, where a yes or no answer is required for his involvement in the Bond franchise from here on out.
It's possible Craig said, or gave the impression, he may do a fifth film prior to making SPECTRE. The media went with that belief - they were claiming he was under contract for a fifth but it turned out he wasn't.
There's also been a claim the Daily Mail report about Craig turning down a vast figure for two more Bond films was made-up. The counter claim was that it was PR spin when EON had already moved on and didn't want Craig back due to his negative comments.
MG Wilson seems quite a laid back guy in that video. ;) Doesn't seem the type to get too bothered by it all!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-3247750/Bond-Spectre-Daniel-Craig-s-like-alter-ego.html
November 2012: Craig says, " I've agreed to do a couple more, but let's see how this one does." One refers to Skyfall.
http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/cover-story-excerpt-daniel-craig-the-man-behind-james-bond-20121109
Of course, Craig once said, "The title of a Bond film is not about anything."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/3096758/Daniel-Craig-Bond-film-name-Quantum-of-Solace-was-my-idea.html
And once said, "Agents are liars," when asked about how Ben Whishaw's agent (accurately) said his client had been cast as Q.
http://www.comingsoon.net/extras/news/89099-skyfall-interview-daniel-craig-and-producer-barbara-broccoli