No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    I do believe Craig will return. And not only for one but two. Then, he's out.

    Just my predictions.
    If they keep the 3 year cycle he definitely won't do more past B25.

  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    jake24 wrote: »
    I do believe Craig will return. And not only for one but two. Then, he's out.

    Just my predictions.
    If they keep the 3 year cycle he definitely won't do more past B25.
    And have SPECTRE brought in for only two films? It wouldn't sound reasonable. Not if I were to have a say in the matter, anyway... :))
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    jake24 wrote: »
    I do believe Craig will return. And not only for one but two. Then, he's out.

    Just my predictions.
    If they keep the 3 year cycle he definitely won't do more past B25.
    And have SPECTRE brought in for only two films? It wouldn't sound reasonable. Not if I were to have a say in the matter, anyway... :))
    I see what your saying, bringing SPECTRE back now was a bit too late in the game (not that they had a choice). However just because Craig leaves, doesn't mean the organization can't still be out there, just waiting to ruin yet another Bond's life.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    jake24 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    I do believe Craig will return. And not only for one but two. Then, he's out.

    Just my predictions.
    If they keep the 3 year cycle he definitely won't do more past B25.
    And have SPECTRE brought in for only two films? It wouldn't sound reasonable. Not if I were to have a say in the matter, anyway... :))
    I see what your saying, bringing SPECTRE back now was a bit too late in the game (not that they had a choice). However just because Craig leaves, doesn't mean the organization can't still be out there, just waiting to ruin yet another Bond's life.
    They either have to choose an older Bond to remain in the same continuity (since 'continuity' does matter in the rebooted universe), or they have to relaunch the series, again.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Why would the continuity suddenly need to be followed to a T, just because of what the Craig era has done? Sure, it's been rebooted, but for the sake of continuity, that means that Bond would have to be older and older until the series dies out because Bond is 100 years old. If we're also following continuity, then the next Bond (and every Bond thereafter) has to have blue eyes, since Blofeld talks about the "blue-eyed boy" in SP.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Continuity is a ball and chain for artistic freedom.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Why would the continuity suddenly need to be followed to a T, just because of what the Craig era has done? Sure, it's been rebooted, but for the sake of continuity, that means that Bond would have to be older and older until the series dies out because Bond is 100 years old. If we're also following continuity, then the next Bond (and every Bond thereafter) has to have blue eyes, since Blofeld talks about the "blue-eyed boy" in SP.
    In my opinion, it has to be that way. Otherwise, there's no reason to hold relevance to the given dates such as the DOB and later events given proper point in time. The old series before the reboot didn't have that issue, so casting new Bonds and keeping the character young wasn't much of a problem. But, now, it would not be right if they change that unless the whole franchise is relaunched again.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I tend to agree with @Creasy47. I don't think the continuity needs to be so strict, no.
    These are Bond films, we can have leeway even though CR rebooted the series.
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 2,115
    For the record, it was Eon (specifically Michael G. Wilson) who boasted how Quantum began "literally an hour" after Casino. Despite that, Quantum's director couldn't be bothered with the *slightest* attempt to have continuity to Casino (Casino was set in 2006, Quantum was set in 2008; Mathis was "being sweated" at the end of Casino, but was living in a villa MI6 bought for him and had a live-in girlfriend at the start of Quantum, etc., etc., etc.)>

    Continuity, in an of itself, is not shackle to creativity. Many fans feel From Russia With Love (which connected to Dr. No) is better than the first 007 film. It still comes down to the story.

    But when you claim continuity is important (as Wilson did with Quantum) and then you act if it's not, things get messed up.

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Quantum is set in 2006 when you ignore that Plane ticket or Greene Planet party invite continuity error.
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    For the record, it was Eon (specifically Michael G. Wilson) who boasted how Quantum began "literally an hour" after Casino. Despite that, Quantum's director couldn't be bothered with the *slightest* attempt to have continuity to Casino (Casino was set in 2006, Quantum was set in 2008; Mathis was "being sweated" at the end of Casino, but was living in a villa MI6 bought for him and had a live-in girlfriend at the start of Quantum, etc., etc., etc.)>

    Continuity, in an of itself, is not shackle to creativity. Many fans feel From Russia With Love (which connected to Dr. No) is better than the first 007 film. It still comes down to the story.

    But when you claim continuity is important (as Wilson did with Quantum) and then you act if it's not, things get messed up.


    Sure that part of Wilson's discussion everyone focused on but why Quantum of Solace was titled that everyone seems to have missed lol..



    For me I care about a good story which I got in the first 2 Craig films.


    Actually interms of story Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace are great Skyfall is ok and Spectre is good.
  • Guy Ritchie would make no sense for B25 if it's a continuation of Spectre. I know it would be a safe move, but bring Martin Campbell when the reboot happens.
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 2,115
    Murdock wrote: »
    Quantum is set in 2006 when you ignore that Plane ticket or Greene Planet party invite continuity error.

    That's the best answer I've heard. Usually, people try to come up with a explanation that it took Bond two years to track down White. The problem with that is cell phones act like GPS beacons and basic street criminals are smart enough to use disposable cell phones. Either White or Bond or both weren't very bright for it to take two years.

    Also, if you assume Casino and Quantum both occurred in 2006 *and* Skyfall and SPECTRE both took place in 2015, then "burned out" Bond in Skyfall makes more sense.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    I think Ritchie is never 'safe' as a director though.
  • @4EverBonded if you're referring to my post, I meant Campbell as the safe move.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I bet Campbell's still got that magic, too. Would love to see him return.
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    Would be my favourite, if DC returns.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    He's got that movie with Pierce and Jackie Chan, doesn't he?
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    I think Campell would be the best choice to direct Bond 25.
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    Still favour Alfonso Cuaron!
    I just don't think they will go back to Campbell.
    Am hoping Babs will persuade Dan to stay on. He seems more mellow in his answer to returning than his knee jerk reaction when he was asked initially!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Am hoping Babs will persuade Dan to stay on. He seems more mellow in his answer to returning than his knee jerk reaction when he was asked initially!
    Literally, because he had just busted his knee out while filming SP!
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    He was simply making a joke. Pity sense of humour is a talent among rarity these days.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Am hoping Babs will persuade Dan to stay on. He seems more mellow in his answer to returning than his knee jerk reaction when he was asked initially!
    Literally, because he had just busted his knee out while filming SP!

    That is true, and the press keep claiming he made the comment during the endless interview rounds just before the film opened, and not months before at the end of the actual shoot. Context can be everything. But as much as I would like to see Craig return for one more, I fear his words will haunt him if he does. The comment about just doing 25 for the money, was kind of worse. Just wish he had been more careful. I was tough on him at the time. I'm less so now given how he didn't make a false move in the tons of other interviews he gave for SP.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    You think Craig s comments were tough?

    What about Dalton in 88 saying he thought LTK would be the last Bond film? Not just his last Bond, but the last period, just a feeling he had?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited December 2015 Posts: 15,423
    Craig always said things about resigning or quitting. When a third story arc was being talked about back in 2009, he shouted "no way" for a "007 trilogy" and insisted on making his third film as soon as possible and be done with. When Skyfall premiered, he said something about quitting, mentioned wanting to get out as soon as he got in. Then, the comments about his fifth have surfaced after Spectre, adding later that he's not out just yet. Anyone take the hint? It's called "publicity stunt." And no, I'm not holding it against him.
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    You think Craig s comments were tough?

    What about Dalton in 88 saying he thought LTK would be the last Bond film? Not just his last Bond, but the last period, just a feeling he had?

    True, and Hardy just got in his own way with his conduct during the Revenant interviews. He's really getting dumped on by the press. Given how 100% Craig was during the rest of his huge number of SP interviews, I've softened about how tough I was on him for those comments. Promoting Bond, and dealing with the off screen pressures make Bond a not always easy gig. Craig's behind the scenes production role has also added to his value. I think EON will hate to lose him, as he has been quite the EON team player.

  • edited December 2015 Posts: 2,081
    smitty wrote: »
    You think Craig s comments were tough?

    What about Dalton in 88 saying he thought LTK would be the last Bond film? Not just his last Bond, but the last period, just a feeling he had?

    True, and Hardy just got in his own way with his conduct during the Revenant interviews. He's really getting dumped on by the press. Given how 100% Craig was during the rest of his huge number of SP interviews, I've softened about how tough I was on him for those comments. Promoting Bond, and dealing with the off screen pressures make Bond a not always easy gig. Craig's behind the scenes production role has also added to his value. I think EON will hate to lose him, as he has been quite the EON team player.

    I wonder if your comment about Hardy was actually about that HitFlix journo going on a ridiculous Twitter rant mode. People can get frustrated, exhausted, pissed off and act in a stupid way. Happens. Here it was the journalist. But not being man enough to simply apologize for it is far more stupid. That story has been... interesting and I'm curious about further developments in it. In this case the one who was truly acting in a questionable manner was the journalist. I assume that's the story you had in mind. If it was something else entirely then I have missed the news. As for Hardy, I've seen several interviews for The Revenant and haven't noticed anything negative. Hardy and DiCaprio seem to have a friendly relationship, that's always nice to see.

    Promotional work is not always an easy job for anyone, I'm sure, and even less for people who don't feel comfortable about that side of things - such as Hardy and to a lesser extent Craig. Shooting a movie is not always easy, either. Neither is anybody's job, probably. Or life in general. On the whole I agree that Craig did an excellent job as usual. Just one unfortunately comment blown out of all proportion and misrepresented by the media. Happens as well. (Sorta like with Hardy in the case above.)
  • Artemis81Artemis81 In Christmas Land
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    Walecs wrote: »
    I think Campell would be the best choice to direct Bond 25.
    I would love this.
    Re: Guy Ritchie - I just didn't like how the action was directed in UNCLE. It wasn't very exciting. The only other films I've seen of him are the Robert Downey Jr Sherlock films, but I just don't see him as someone I like to direct Bond.

  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Tuulia wrote: »
    smitty wrote: »
    You think Craig s comments were tough?

    What about Dalton in 88 saying he thought LTK would be the last Bond film? Not just his last Bond, but the last period, just a feeling he had?

    True, and Hardy just got in his own way with his conduct during the Revenant interviews. He's really getting dumped on by the press. Given how 100% Craig was during the rest of his huge number of SP interviews, I've softened about how tough I was on him for those comments. Promoting Bond, and dealing with the off screen pressures make Bond a not always easy gig. Craig's behind the scenes production role has also added to his value. I think EON will hate to lose him, as he has been quite the EON team player.

    I wonder if your comment about Hardy was actually about that HitFlix journo going on a ridiculous Twitter rant mode. People can get frustrated, exhausted, pissed off and act in a stupid way. Happens. Here it was the journalist. But not being man enough to simply apologize for it is far more stupid. That story has been... interesting and I'm curious about further developments in it. In this case the one who was truly acting in a questionable manner was the journalist. I assume that's the story you had in mind. If it was something else entirely then I have missed the news. As for Hardy, I've seen several interviews for The Revenant and haven't noticed anything negative. Hardy and DiCaprio seem to have a friendly relationship, that's always nice to see.

    Promotional work is not always an easy job for anyone, I'm sure, and even less for people who don't feel comfortable about that side of things - such as Hardy and to a lesser extent Craig. Shooting a movie is not always easy, either. Neither is anybody's job, probably. Or life in general. On the whole I agree that Craig did an excellent job as usual. Just one unfortunately comment blown out of all proportion and misrepresented by the media. Happens as well. (Sorta like with Hardy in the case above.)

    This is Hardy's email to the journalist...

    ...

    Dear Drew,

    Thankyou for your email offering to retract your misdirected anger. I apologise for any part of you having to wait for an interview and then not get one. The truth is we (as I was paired for all interviews that day) were unaware that ANYBODY was waiting. Or even went without a TV interview. Someone somewhere must have thought putting it on me was a lot easier than losing their journalist relations for the ongoing junkets and multiple movies that are pending. I wish I would have napped to be honest.
    One note to make is that per Fox, they said they “never actually told (you) that the interview was cancelled, simply that they were running behind schedule.” They also said that “Drew chose not to wait and left. Had he stayed, he would have gotten his interview as planned.”
    ****.. Plot thickens … Who knows what to trust my friend, but I do know the cancellation was definitely not made by myself.
    Resisting the urge to dare you to say what you “rant tweeted” so publicly, to my face next time we meet, which I doubt you have the balls to do; I want to apologise regardless on behalf of those that misled the both of us. That isn’t cool. At all. Neither were your tweets. But that’s by the by.

    I appreciate your apology of sorts in your emails to and fro which I am happy to openly post. Also as I hope you understand now and which you’ve made very clear in our emails back and forth, your legitimate frustration lies with those who organised the junket; who fed you and I misinformation; not me.

    Again apologies for the clusterfk. And it’s knock on effect to your personal life. I appreciate it is a busy time of year for you and your time shouldn’t have been wasted. I never had any intention of causing you any inconveniences at all.

    Best regards and thanks for calling me an ******* a lot
    Tommy xxx
  • edited December 2015 Posts: 2,081
    Yeah, thanks for posting that here, @doubleoego. I'm only on mobile for a few days so struggling a bit. ..

    One of the things I found interesting was that while the journalist was swearing at Hardy on twitter, he didn't dish out the same garbage at that other guy, DiCaprio. Funny that. He was expecting to interview them together, but was then publically rude to just one of them for not getting his interview? And he verified that open letter was indeed from Hardy, yet instead of apologizing he got defensive, listed excuses, developed a victim complex... He must have some issues, the way he has been going on is too irrational for any other explanation. It's like watching someone shoot themselves in the foot, and then not know how to stop and just keep doing it. As for Hardy, well he can be, um, dlifficult, but adorable as well, and that letter was fab.
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