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I'd settle for an hour of Rosamund Pike doing a striptease, forget about all the rest.
It certainly seems that way. I think SF was the film he really wanted to make, and his passion carried over to the end product.
The one of many things that Daniel has over Pierce is his dedication,he would never contemplate a DAD.....its against his acting ethics...either 007 is 007 or he rightfully wont do it...and if SP is his 'outrageous film' then i can live with that ,and well done to one of our finest ever actors.
Look I know some would like to over look this element of the film but I honestly can't see another film with DC & Waltz not wallowing in it.
They'll feel need to follow through with it, infact I think DC & Waltz will insist on it (imo). They obviously really liked the idea.
While I don't want P&W near it I'm not counting my chickens we've seen the last of them.
The smart money would say ditch them but I'm not sure based on recent events EON is that smart in this department.
As someone who was very much an advocate of this era and loved CR and SF and admired QOS, I can't believe the events of one film as me in such a negative mood going forward in the Craig era but it has.
And dont forget,we see a scared,beaten Bond on the train by Hinx ,ending up even throwing a lettuce at him in desperation...hardly DAD !!
My problem with SPECTRE as it wanted to be a GF, SWLM type adventure but because of Mendes and Logan's influence had to have the personal element, it should have been enough with SF a one off a 50th celebration but that should have been it.
If only Sam hadn't returned we might have got something more traditional and wasn't being influence by Nolan's Bat films.
The insistance of waiting for him to be ready meant they wanted another SF and thought he would deliver that, instead Mendes had to work with a half cooked script and then wanted to crow bar loads of references in while keeping the personal element, it was a jarring mess of a film.
If only we'd got Craig's GF, TB or SWLM I think I would have been happy with that much more than the finished product.
Just speaking for myself, I don't have any problems whatsoever with a fantastical Bond film. TSWLM is #4 for me, and it's likely to stay at that rank for some time. My issue with SP is that I think it's a poorly executed fantastical Bond film. Not DAD bad, but bad nonetheless. I have tried to like it, and there are some things I enjoy, most notably Hoyte's lensing (but not his colour filters). However, I find it uninspiring and terribly derivative in an obvious way. I feel the same way about TND as an example, and for the same reasons (too derivative and pastiche). Furthermore, I see tonal variations in the film that make me uncomfortable when watching it, and that reminds me of my experience with TWINE (my lowest rated Bond film by some margin).
So I don't mind formula at a conceptual level. I just have a problem with formula that I don't find inspiring. The 'brother' thing was terribly unfortunate, but the aforementioned issues are more annoying to me.
I also feel they are almolst scared to use the Bond theme. We need Arnold back, he delivered some great Bondian scores. Craig needs his "TWINE" Caviar Factory" soundtrack moment in an action sequence.
This is why i love us real Bond fans....always different ideas but all for the same cause,to make 007 even better.
Oh wait, DAF, TMWTGG, MR, AVTAK... I would also add my least favourites: YOLT and LALD.
In a series this long, there will be ups and downs. There will be experiments gone wrong. In time, even the films I've mentioned above are seen in a more "cute" light today.
For all the SP haters, I'm sure you'll soften too in the next ten and twenty years (except for Wizard, that's clear!). SP is a blip on the screen that provided you with great distaste.
However, in time, there will be another ugly blip, and SP won't look so bad. Forums like these will see it rise in its ranking.
There will be more failures in this franchise to come, but, luckily for us, there will many more successes.
Personally, I enjoyed SP immensely, although I see its warts. I find the individual scenes (not including the woeful Denbigh and his interesting, yet underdeveloped, Plot B scenes), to be immaculate, mesmerizing and, at times, hypnotic in the way it was shot (yes, I leave myself open to negative commentary here). However, the over all package doesn't work as a polished film. Individual scenes are one thing. Editing and tightness are another. It's a gloriously wonderful and failed experiment.
But, to all the haters: the Broccoli's are smart people. They learn from their mistakes and bounce back even stronger.
So, raising a glass to the unknown, Bond 25, and its future success.
Arnold composed better in my opinion... Backseat Driver, Bike Chase, Come in 007 Your Time Is Up, Iced. Inc etc.
Are you enjoying family life thát much Walter :-P?
Bond movies have had elements of comic book movies since Goldfinger, such as Odd Job's hat.
https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2014/09/10/goldfinger-the-first-a-movie-comic-book-film/
Meanwhile, the original Fleming novels owe a debt of gratitude to pulp novels, which were also an inspiration for comic books in the first place.
None of this is a criticism of the films or Fleming's novels.
And the entire MI6 crew and all stunt coordinators. But Logan and Newman should not be allowed near Bond again.
That's fine. But yeah, I'm still for P&W in it to some degree. Jez apparently was helpful. I'd like a new main writer, but I'm not against P&W having some say, and I think I'd be happy if they did. I do hope a new writer comes on board as the main scriptwriter, and it would be really helpful if that were soon.
Writing of course could be happening now, whether we have any other news or not (including re Craig). I haven't changed my mind about Daniel Craig either.
I think the trap some of us fall into is thinking them as right because of their knowledge of the series and supposedly Fleming but why do we think they are the only writers that are capable of this, just because they have doesn't mean they need to carry on.
I'm sorry but for all Logan's crimes he had nothing to do with Bond and ESB's past and that awful ring scanning moment that was used to tie everything together. That was Neil Purvis & Robert Wade.
If Logan had delivered a script that BB & MGW would have signed off on irregardless of what it turned out to be in the finished product you wouldn't have seen them anywhere near SPECTRE, maybe Mendes would have bought his mate Jez on board but P&W were never his intention. I think he wanted rid of them, hence why the claim that he had to beg them back.
Maybe even P&W were so pissed at the fact they'd been let go that when they were asked back they thought yeah we'll come back but we are really going to stuff them up with what we give them and it will be too late to go anywhere else.
You can imagine the conversation
"hey Neil what one thing would really wind up the fans, well Rob you know we've got the rights back to SPECTRE & Blofeld and they don't like what John wrote maybe we can say Ernst was linked to Bond's childhood and use that for a basis for the script, yeah that sounds great and I've also got this real lame idea to tie it all together, yeah Rob that will teach them to dump us, they'll never have us back after this but I couldn't care anyway"
I'm happy enough with Blofeld and the whole back story given there in Spectre. I have a few quibbles with the film, but I don't hate on the "personal" aspect or Blofeld at all.
I feel very strongly about what they did here, I'm not a Craig hater as far from as you can get but one film changed my perception of his era.
That is how I feel and maybe you thought it was fine but as much as I enjoy Nolan's Bat films I don't want Bond taking influence from them and the script from SP clearly was looking at the way TDKR tied all three films together, although that felt like natural progression despite my issues with that film, whereas what was done by P&W was lazy retconning with no thought of the consequnces on going forward with this era.
Hence why my theory of Purvis & Wade sabotaging the film makes sense to me, it's unlikely but I'm just trying to illustrate what a crap shoot that script was.
Logan's ideas were nuts but I'm sorry that doesn't give P&W a free pass which because of their attachment to the series some of you just seem to quite happy to do.
Oh it's Bond so I will accept, any Bond is better than no Bond however lame, it's my only explanation for a good portion of the Brosnan era.
:))
P&W need to go. EoN need to have the balls and to put their hands in their pockets and pay good money for talented writers.