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It's just that no one delivers that line with the authority that Sean Connery did in YOLT (when he confronts the Rock's grandad, Peter Maiva at Osato's office) or Moore in TMWTGG at Hai Fat's home ("A pleasant evening") and Craig had this almost embarrassed head nodding smirk when doing it which reminded me of how he delivered "circle of life" in SF. Neither quite turned my crank.
But once again, this thread has ventured into Spectre deconstruction territory. Let's get back to Bond 25.
I just think he's so much better with the sarcasm. It's even more like how he is in real life with the interviews and all that.
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Regarding getting back to B25 Production rumours: I object to latest rumour boy Hemsworth or paying Craig $150m to return.
Now, with Bond 25... Let's see which British actor in his 20s/30s wears a tuxedo and appears in something that's globally popular enough to make him "considered for the Bond role" via the reports. ;)
I agree. 'Circle of life' is shite, but 'Good Evening' is perfectly delivered IMO.
The Churchill Insurance dog can nod if that's all you're after.
Personally I'd prefer a director to get on a direct a good story competently rather than waste his time on rubbish like this.
Strange how when Tamahori did this same thing it was awful yet Mendes doing it puts him on a par with Hitchcock in some people's eyes.
I thought Mendes did a very good job with SF (it was poor on action and the GB at the end still pisses me off), less so with SP but please let's not suggest he's head and shoulders above anyone else and we are lucky to be graced with his genius.
The best film of the last 10 years is still the one directed by the bloke who also made the Green Lantern not Sam, despite him getting two bites of the cherry.
But the nods in SP are great. My favourite is the homage to John Glen in White's House.
Why is everything a f**king homage these days?
Is the bit where Bond sits in his flat with his jacket off a homage to DN or TND or both?
Is the bit where Q gives Bond a watch a homage to OP or DAD?
Is the bit where Bond walks up some steps a homage to every Bond film ever (I'm assuming that happens but will be impressed if someone can come back at me pointing out a film where it doesn't!)
And why are only things homages nowadays? Wasn't the ski sequence in the PTS of TSWLM a homage to OHMSS? FYEO is the king of course as it has homages to OHMSS (Tracy's grave, ski sequence, Bond in a helicopter), DN (an MI6 agent is assassinated and Bond is sent to investigate, chemin de fer scene) TSWLM (Lotus and the ski scene which we've already established is a homage of OHMSS - this is turning into Inception) etc etc.
Why is Mendes a genius for all these subtle 'nods' to Bond films past but Glen isn't for the above?
I didn't find it gave White depth at all, it felt like it was shoehorned in with no thought have how Mr White could properly figure in the scheme of things considering his character has been quite important to this era.
White & ESB's relationship could have been a real humdinger but it was like an afterthought.
P&W obviously used him to fill in a gap in their reworking of of Logan's script. The use of ESB was Logan's idea and tieing that to Quantum was obviously P&W along with that whacky foster brother nonsense.
I think some people must be watching a different film to me, to call SPECTRE a masterpiece is one of the biggest insults you could level at the series.
Jason I think you are smoking some strong stuff when you watch SPECTRE as no one else I know has the adoration for this film you have.
I don't think any Bond film is a masterpiece let alone this dodgy cobbled together mess that was called SPECTRE.
Totally agree. Hate these lame references to past Bond films. The DB5 in GE sort of started it and DAD took it to another level. The GF reference in QoS set it off again and then Mendes just can't control himself.
It must be a Swiss thing. Spectre sold over 300'000 more tickets (over one million) than Star Wars TFA in Switzerland and broke several records.
So I'm excused I guess because I'm by far not the only one who absolutely loves that movie here.
Hear, hear.
It's a decent Bond film (Christ knows there have been many worse) with a dodgy third act - no more, no less.
Clumsy effort Mr Getafix, you disappoint me.
He walks up steps when he exits the lift in the ski jump.
And although he runs up most of them in the way to kill Locque poor old Roger is struggling by the end so some some of them could probably be classed as walked up.
Damn it!
i think the "reference" or "homage" box ticking has gotten out of hand on these boards recently - not everything is an intentional reference if it happens to be similar to something before.. there is a distinct difference between an intentional homage to a previous film, and something that just might be pure coincidence - because lets face it, Bond films have been around for 24 films over 54 years now, there are going to be instances where there are similarities between certain scenes, or shots.. it happens when you've been going this long - and only us 1%-ers, the dedicated few, will ever notice...
@TheWizardOfIce... the big difference i will say between Tamahori and Mendes, was Mendes found creative ways to drop his intentional homages into the story, and not make them so overt or distracting (sans DB5).. when Tamahori did it, he slapped you across the face with it, and more or less stopped the film in order to do so.
I would say Mendes does a fair amount of slapping to
as i've said before, i wouldn't be surprised if all this talk about recasting the main role will be a moot point once Craig announces that he'll come back for one last go, then gladly turn over his PPK to the next guy....... or not - who knows lol... we know absolutely so little at this point that any crumb of news or gossip is being sucked up like it's the last drop of water on the face of the earth..
personally... i do feel like Craig will come back... because IMO, if he was truly done with the role - after this long (more than his 6 month window - as we are getting closer to a year since SP was released).. i believe he would've came out by now and said "that's it, i'm done.", and really be done with it... to drag everyone along for this long, and potentially longer isn't the actions of someone who is truly done with it... when Connery said he was done after DAF, he meant it (then he did NSNA 10 years later but that's besides the point lol.) he didn't dick around with Cubby and Harry, he did his film and left... if Dan had truly intended SP to be his last movie, he would've packed his tent and moved on by now - or - at the very least, he would've said something after his Bond sabbatical - which could still happen.... but personally, i wouldn't be surprised if MGM/EON and Dan weren't trying to sort all his scheduling stuff out now, get that out of the way - get on the phone with whoever they really want to be their next distributors, start working out a deal, then start working on a story/script..
agreed... SP, for me - is very middle of the road Bond film... which doesn't make it bad - but it doesn't make it great.. it's a fun watch, with (as you said) a clunky third act... had they really streamlined that whole London bit at the end, into something that all took place at Blofeld's crater lair - and naturally let the film build to a big classic climax, it would've been great.. but instead they build everything up, then bring the film to an ass-grinding halt, just to have an ending back in London - for no real reason... but even then, a final confrontation with Hinx would've made that bit much more interesting, instead, we got what we got.... oh well - not every Bond film is perfect...