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  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Agreed with @doubleoego
  • Agent7FAgent7F
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    @doubleoego We want him in Bond 25 as 007. I think Daniel Craig should 1 more Bond movie. He my third Favourite Bond. Should every guy who plays the role as 007 seem to done less 7. Sean Connery & Roger Moore done 7 Bond movies. Lazenby 1 Timothy Dalton 2 & Brosnan 4. Daniel Craig should do 5 Bond movies.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2016 Posts: 23,883
    bondsum wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    The more photos I see of Turner, the less impressed I become. I'll take Idris over him any day.

    Now, now, @bondjames. Just because your number one choice Hiddles has made a complete and utter tool out of himself over Taylor Swift, there's no need to pour cold water over Turner. Rather than base your judgement on a set of photos, why not actually watch him in something with substance, such as And Then There Was None or Poldark, rather than coming back here all the time to post your unresearched and unsubstantiated doubts? Just an idea, my friend.
    I will do that @bondsum. Of course folks comment on photos from time to time. The whole purpose of people posting photos here is for members to express their opinion.

    I would have thought that a seasoned vet who's been around long enough to remember and comment frequently on the apparent travesty (by your own accounts) of most of Roger Moore's tenure would understand that. Afford me a little leeway here why won't you kind sir?

    I don't have easy access to his work, but I am in the process of seeking it out and will have a more informed opinion at some point in the near future. Hopefully at that point you will think of me as less unresearched.
  • The_ReaperThe_Reaper
    Posts: 1,092
    Yes, we need a longer tenured Bond today. No one has played more than 4 in over 30 years. This is the reboot era and Craig needs at least one more to lay a deeper foundation for the future of this franchise. He deserves to be remembered as one of the greatest like Moore and Connery. He's gotta do more films in order to be within that discussion.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Anyone else in here who like to comment on the questions I've made? :-)

    Most of it is totally unfitting.

    Why if I may ask :-(?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Do you really think he would appreciate those wrist slashing comments and Idris Elba speculations to be brought up yet again? Or to have so many leading questions aimed at him?
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    4 is a good number of films, especially now with the 3 year gaps. Anymore than that, and complacency sets in, if it hasn't already.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    4 is a good number of films, especially now with the 3 year gaps. Anymore than that, and complacency sets in, if it hasn't already.
    I agree @Major. Given the length of time between films these days, 4 seems like a decent number. It worked for Brosnan and it will work for Craig, given that they seemed to have tied his tenure up with a nice big bow on top with SP.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    IMO 4 didn't work for Brosnan as he should of done 1 more. Just like Craig he should do 1 more.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited September 2016 Posts: 9,020
    Here is my theory:

    1 George Lazenby
    2 Timothy Dalton
    3 future Bond No 7
    4 Pierce Brosnan
    5 Daniel Craig (doing Bond 25 and then resigning)
    6 Sean Connery
    7 Roger Moore

    I like numbers and number games.
    This thought occurred to me long ago that it would be fascinating if Craig did a fifth.
    Because then I'm certain the next Bond will do 3 and then be replaced.

    2018 Bond 25
    2022 1st with new actor
    2026 2nd with new actor
    2030 3rd with new actor
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2016 Posts: 23,883
    I think after about 10 years it's time to move on. A decade is a pretty long time in film world.

    I think Moore stayed on for 1 too many, as OP would have been an all time high after 10 yrs in the role. Connery went out after 9 yrs (but with a gap in between). Brosnan could have done one more, it's true, but DAD was a good time to pack it in.

    If they want to make a direct sequel to SP, then Craig of course should return. If they are going for a standalone, then cast someone new imho.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    bondjames wrote: »
    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    4 is a good number of films, especially now with the 3 year gaps. Anymore than that, and complacency sets in, if it hasn't already.
    I agree @Major. Given the length of time between films these days, 4 seems like a decent number. It worked for Brosnan and it will work for Craig, given that they seemed to have tied his tenure up with a nice big bow on top with SP.

    Sorry, but I think Brosnan would disagree with you about that working out for him. Something tells me if you asked him how he felt about doing only 4 films before being randomly shuffled out, he'd be experiencing every other state but contentment in response. But in the disarming sort of way that Irish charm always resonates. ;)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    4 is a good number of films, especially now with the 3 year gaps. Anymore than that, and complacency sets in, if it hasn't already.
    I agree @Major. Given the length of time between films these days, 4 seems like a decent number. It worked for Brosnan and it will work for Craig, given that they seemed to have tied his tenure up with a nice big bow on top with SP.

    Sorry, but I think Brosnan would disagree with you about that working out for him. Something tells me if you asked him how he felt about doing only 4 films before being randomly shuffled out, he'd be experiencing every other state but contentment in response. But in the disarming sort of way that Irish charm always resonates. ;)
    Indeed, Brosnan probably has a different opinion on it. He could have done one more, but I think it was for the best that we made the switch and I think retrospectively most would agree with me (including CraigsnotBonders). That's my point.
  • JeffreyJeffrey The Netherlands
    edited September 2016 Posts: 308
    bondjames wrote: »
    I think after about 10 years it's time to move on. A decade is a pretty long time in film world.

    I think Moore stayed on for 1 too many, as OP would have been an all time high after 10 yrs in the role. Connery went out after 9 yrs (but with a gap in between). Brosnan could have done one more, it's true, but DAD was a good time to pack it in.

    If they want to make a direct sequel to SP, then Craig of course should return. If they are going for a standalone, then cast someone new imho.

    Seen objectively Roger maybe did one too many, but personaly I'm happy he did AVTAK. Its kind of fun that he will probably hold the record forever/a very long time.
  • BondForeverBondForever
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    I've been just reading the forum for months. Im under the impression, as well as everyone else in the world, that Craig is currently done (and can come back). I've found 2 pieces from 3-4 years ago indicating otherwise.... I know things change.

    This site reported he had 2 more AFTER Skyfall (so Bond 25 is his last). WILL STAR IN AT LEAST 5
    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/craig_five_bond_movies_deal.php3


    Also, multiple reports of Michael Wilson wanting him to do 8...
    http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/daniel-craig-to-become-longest-serving-james-bond/255888
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Nobody can be Bond forever, but I have a feeling he will do one more.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    At this rate, if MGW's wish (Craig doing eight total films) came true, then Craig would be roughly 129 years old after his eighth installment.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Paul Haggis: time is right for black James Bond

    The time is right for a black James Bond, and Eon producer Barbara Broccoli might be brave enough to hire one, said writer/director Paul Haggis, kicking off Friday’s Script to Screen Summit presented by Winston Baker here at Toronto International Film Festival (Sept 8-18).

    Haggis, who wrote the screenplays for Casino Royale and Quantum Of Solace, noted he had no connection to Bond anymore but he said “I would go for a black Bond.

    “Barbara [Broccoli] is really brave, and so is Michael [G Wilson], I think she might do it. “ He added that Broccoli already proved her bravery “and took a lot of heat” in hiring Daniel Craig as the first blond Bond. “She just didn’t care, she’s very brave, she’s wonderful.”
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    The only way for an actor to reach 8 films as Bond, is for EON to cast Roger Moore again so he can make his 8th outing.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    They could easily have an actor do eight films if they were hired in their mid-30's and we returned to the 'one film every other year' pattern. A man can dream.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    Pushing the agenda, again?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited September 2016 Posts: 23,883
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Paul Haggis: time is right for black James Bond

    The time is right for a black James Bond, and Eon producer Barbara Broccoli might be brave enough to hire one, said writer/director Paul Haggis, kicking off Friday’s Script to Screen Summit presented by Winston Baker here at Toronto International Film Festival (Sept 8-18).

    Haggis, who wrote the screenplays for Casino Royale and Quantum Of Solace, noted he had no connection to Bond anymore but he said “I would go for a black Bond.

    “Barbara [Broccoli] is really brave, and so is Michael [G Wilson], I think she might do it. “ He added that Broccoli already proved her bravery “and took a lot of heat” in hiring Daniel Craig as the first blond Bond. “She just didn’t care, she’s very brave, she’s wonderful.”
    That's an incredible piece of arse-kissing. Does he want back in? I wouldn't mind tbh, despite his 'Vesper having a child' tangent for QoS.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    4 is a good number of films, especially now with the 3 year gaps. Anymore than that, and complacency sets in, if it hasn't already.

    Don't see why. It all depends on a very good story....and some renewed energy.

    If everything is so quantity-based...arguments wise, like "4 is a good number" and "three years gaps", I think we loose the essence a bit of what makes a good Bond film. And that has nothing to do with age, production gaps or simple quantity sums.

    A good Bond film can always be made, regardless of 'gaps' and other quantity figures. I honestly believe in that. With or without Craig, long run or not, old or young. Just look at what Tom Cruise is doing with his "Mission: Impossible"-franchise. Or what Robert Downey Jr. is doing.

    In many ways, the post-"SPECTRE" period reminds me a lot of the post-"OHMSS" period. I just read my Helfenstein book, about OHMSS. And especially the last chapter (about critics and reviews) reminds me so so much of the fallout with regard to the SonyLeaks and remarks like "I slash my wrists".

    Sorry, I don't buy it. At times we're quite a bit spoiled brats in here who also facilitate all that fallout. Yes, Craig needs to mind his words. But is there not one fan who fiercefully supports Daniel Craig to do a 5th?


  • RossiRossi
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    Ralph Fiennes, Ben Whishaw, Naomi Harris, Christoph Waltz and Rory Kinnear are expected to return as long as Daniel Craig does. The same applies to the possibility of Léa Seydoux, Monica Bellucci, Dave Batista and Jeffrey Wright reprising their roles.
    So, in my humble opinion, Bond is more than ever a kind of an ensemble cast film.
    If Daniel leaves the franchise, then we will have a complete reboot. For that, they will try to keep him for one or two films more.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    The only way for an actor to reach 8 films as Bond, is for EON to cast Roger Moore again so he can make his 8th outing.
    YES!!!

  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    The fresh blood you speak of applies to the writing, directing and the score; which have all been lacking for far too long.
    Two out of the last four Bond films (CR and SF) had great screenplays and were exceptionally directed. As for the score, it wasn't an accident that the score of SF became the first Oscar nominated Bond score since TSWLM.

    The reason Craig has to go is that SP was a huge mess. A mess they could not ignore if Craig returned, since Bond's life was very much altered in that film. Just like a decade ago, it's time to go back to basics again. Bond 25 has to be a mean, lean and sexy movie, and I don't mean Casino Royale lean. I mean Dr. No lean. Smaller budget, fewer locations, a young Bond, less spectacle and more thrill.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    Rossi wrote: »
    Ralph Fiennes, Ben Whishaw, Naomi Harris, Christoph Waltz and Rory Kinnear are expected to return as long as Daniel Craig does. The same applies to the possibility of Léa Seydoux, Monica Bellucci, Dave Batista and Jeffrey Wright reprising their roles.
    So, in my humble opinion, Bond is more than ever a kind of an ensemble cast film.
    If Daniel leaves the franchise, then we will have a complete reboot. For that, they will try to keep him for one or two films more.

    Hey @Rossi. Nice to see you around here :-).

    You are mentioning a valid point here though. The MI6-team: 'M', 'Q', Moneypenny, Tanner. The SPECTRE-team: Blofeld. They all vanish when Craig walks away?

    In all honesty, I think Ben Whishaw should stay. And if they all leave, that's quite a big 'blood-letting'. And it would immediately lead to a new reboot. And I don't think that's what the Bond franchise needs.

    Let the Marvel-guys, DC Comics and all of Hollywood indulge in this uncreative instrument of....rebooting when creativity is all gone.

    Bond is an ongoing thing.....and it is of my honest believe that we should slowly breathe out the continuity part in the next Bond film, so that Bond #25 is an open ended film, and that a new actor can walk in....preferably with the same MI6-team.

    I honestly think people are not ready yet for another....reboot. Look what happened to "Batman vs. Superman". Zack Snyder tried to copy-paste the first half of his film by having Christopher Nolan in mind. It fell flat.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    They could easily have an actor do eight films if they were hired in their mid-30's and we returned to the 'one film every other year' pattern. A man can dream.

    @Creasy47, by that point acting will be outsourced to crazy life-like CGI models, so we can just have a computer created Sean Connery replace any other actors as Bond instead for the rest of our days. There could even be settings at each movie theater in the future that would allow you to customize what Bond actor you want in the role for every film. The dialogue and actions Bond makes in the film would stay the same, but computers would've already created a way for each of the Bonds to be the star of the movie based on preference, and their voices and likenesses would carry over perfectly. You could watch Brosnan in the film, I could watch Sean, @DaltonCraig007 could see Roger. This is the future!
    Jeffrey wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    I think after about 10 years it's time to move on. A decade is a pretty long time in film world.

    I think Moore stayed on for 1 too many, as OP would have been an all time high after 10 yrs in the role. Connery went out after 9 yrs (but with a gap in between). Brosnan could have done one more, it's true, but DAD was a good time to pack it in.

    If they want to make a direct sequel to SP, then Craig of course should return. If they are going for a standalone, then cast someone new imho.

    Seen objectively Roger maybe did one too many, but personaly I'm happy he did AVTAK. Its kind of fun that he will probably hold the record forever/a very long time.

    I'd love for Dan to match Roger's film number, but if it doesn't happen, I'm glad the record will be in Sir Roger's hands for a considerable amount of time more, and maybe even forever at this point unless EON and MGM's release schedule alters considerably.

    I'm proud Roger gets that honor, though, as he's far and away been the biggest ambassador of the series throughout his days in the role and decades outside of it, doing events, meeting fans, attending Bond celebrations and being supportive of the vitality of the franchise in general. A true gentleman in every sense of the word, and we've been blessed to have him.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited September 2016 Posts: 15,723
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    As for the score, it wasn't an accident that the score of SF became the first Oscar nominated Bond score since TSWLM.

    Sorry, but what a load of crap. A Bond soundtrack that doesn't feature different instrumental versions of the theme song should not be nominated. That is an insult on Bond music and on what Barry achieved in all of soundtracks he composed for Bond. And that man was not nominated once for his Bond work. The academy should present John Barry a public apology and retroactively cancel Newman's nomination for SF.

    I say this as someone who enjoyed SF's soundtrack, but let's be realistic. Barry not only created 11 unique soundtracks, but he worked his ass off composing new arrangements of the Bond theme, and weaved each film's respective theme song thanks to several different versions in the soundtracks.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Indeed both John Barry and Ken Adam should have been nominated for an Oscar. But they weren't because of the Academy's snobbish criteria. The only reason that Newman was nominated, is as he fit in with the "Oscar baiting" that has plagued the Bond franchise of late.
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