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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited October 2016 Posts: 45,489
    Agree with RC7. Neither Aidan Turner nor Chuck Berry will be the next Bond.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited October 2016 Posts: 8,392
    RC7 wrote: »
    How "we" will all look like imbeciles once Aidan Turner has been announced as the new Bond...
    I almost hope it happens just to see some faces here...

    There's nothing to suggest Aidan Turner will be the next Bond anymore than Barry Chuckle will. If there were overwhelming evidence and people chose to ignore it, perhaps they may look like imbeciles. As it is, unless we're all supposed to have developed a spiritual pescience, I don't think anyone will look foolish.

    Perhaps there isn't evidence, but there are certainly clues that point to Turner being best positioned of any actor at the moment. Any new actor, that is. Craig could still return but I just don't see it happening. Firstly, whether we see it as the perfect ending or not, SPECTRE does kinda rap things up. Secondly, Craig has never seen himself as an ambassador in the same way as say Moore did. He see's the role as just that, a role. I would have never had him down as interested in playing the same character for 9 years in 2006, so I certainly don't think he would carry on even longer. Again, he's not the same breed as a Tom Cruise, who absolutely loves making popcorn entertainment for the masses. Craig would be quite happy to work on the stage for the rest of his life, and he has been talking about "letting someone else have a go" since 2012.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    RC7 wrote: »
    How "we" will all look like imbeciles once Aidan Turner has been announced as the new Bond...
    I almost hope it happens just to see some faces here...

    There's nothing to suggest Aidan Turner will be the next Bond anymore than Barry Chuckle will. If there were overwhelming evidence and people chose to ignore it, perhaps they may look like imbeciles. As it is, unless we're all supposed to have developed a spiritual pescience, I don't think anyone will look foolish.

    Perhaps there isn't evidence, but there are certainly clues that point to Turner being best positioned of any actor at the moment. Any new actor, that is. Craig could still return but I just don't see it happening. Firstly, whether we see it as the perfect ending or not, SPECTRE does kinda rap things up. Secondly, Craig has never seen himself as an ambassador in the same way as say Moore did. He see's the role as just that, a role. I would have never had him down as interested in playing the same character for 9 years in 2006, so I certainly don't think he would carry on even longer. Again, he's not the same breed as a Tom Cruise, who absolutely loves making popcorn entertainment for the masses. Craig would be quite happy to work on the stage for the rest of his life, and he has been talking about "letting someone else have a go" since 2012.

    You do know Dalton is still alive, don't you? :P
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    How "we" will all look like imbeciles once Aidan Turner has been announced as the new Bond...
    I almost hope it happens just to see some faces here...

    I don't think anyone sane has ever stated explicitly that Turner won't be Bond it's just that most normal people consider that there is simply no data draw any conclusion from yet.

    Only an idiot/@Mendes4lyfe would think Turner is a done deal.

    Perhaps there isn't evidence

    Brilliant. A Christian Evangelist couldn't have put it better. Mendes doesn't need mundane things such as facts - he has faith that his own delusional prophecy will come to pass.

    but there are certainly clues that point to Turner being best positioned of any actor at the moment.
    Any new actor, that is. Craig could still return but I just don't see it happening. Firstly, whether we see it as the perfect ending or not, SPECTRE does kinda rap things up. Secondly, Craig has never seen himself as an ambassador in the same way as say Moore did. He see's the role as just that, a role. I would have never had him down as interested in playing the same character for 9 years in 2006, so I certainly don't think he would carry on even longer. Again, he's not the same breed as a Tom Cruise, who absolutely loves making popcorn entertainment for the masses. Craig would be quite happy to work on the stage for the rest of his life, and he has been talking about "letting someone else have a go" since 2012.

    Feel free to share some of these clues as to why Turner is nailed on with us, as all you have written there are reasons why Craig won't return which is not the same thing even if the voices in your head tell you it is.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited October 2016 Posts: 8,392
    How "we" will all look like imbeciles once Aidan Turner has been announced as the new Bond...
    I almost hope it happens just to see some faces here...

    I don't think anyone sane has ever stated explicitly that Turner won't be Bond it's just that most normal people consider that there is simply no data draw any conclusion from yet.

    Only an idiot/@Mendes4lyfe would think Turner is a done deal.

    Perhaps there isn't evidence

    Brilliant. A Christian Evangelist couldn't have put it better. Mendes doesn't need mundane things such as facts - he has faith that his own delusional prophecy will come to pass.

    but there are certainly clues that point to Turner being best positioned of any actor at the moment.
    Any new actor, that is. Craig could still return but I just don't see it happening. Firstly, whether we see it as the perfect ending or not, SPECTRE does kinda rap things up. Secondly, Craig has never seen himself as an ambassador in the same way as say Moore did. He see's the role as just that, a role. I would have never had him down as interested in playing the same character for 9 years in 2006, so I certainly don't think he would carry on even longer. Again, he's not the same breed as a Tom Cruise, who absolutely loves making popcorn entertainment for the masses. Craig would be quite happy to work on the stage for the rest of his life, and he has been talking about "letting someone else have a go" since 2012.

    Feel free to share some of these clues as to why Turner is nailed on with us, as all you have written there are reasons why Craig won't return which is not the same thing even if the voices in your head tell you it is.

    With Craig the films have been very emotional, sensitive, gritty, serious, sombre, some might even say languorous. So it follows that the next guy would bring back the fun and lightheartedness, at least to some extent. At the same time, EON will likely be looking for someone that is a visual contrast to Craig, more of the traditional tall, dark and handsome type. Having said that, they probably don't want to move the dial to far in the other direction, so they'll be looking for someone with a mystique about them, a sense of danger. At the end of the day, It's about getting that balance right, finding the right range to carry the franchise forward for the next decade or so. Turner appears to tick all the boxes on paper, and once you see some of his back catalogue, it all kinda falls into place. You can call it a delusion of mine, but I've seen multiple fans all with the same idea for what they want from a new Bond, and once I mention Aidan Turner and point them to some of his work, they all just kinda end up agreeing with me. There's no way EON hasn't realized this yet.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    What was that early Connery movie with all the little people?

    Anyway I wish EoN would announce something soon to turn off all this Turner babble.

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    Come on guys, admit it - every conspiracy theorie from me is better then this
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited October 2016 Posts: 9,117

    With Craig the films have been very emotional, sensitive, gritty, serious, sombre, some might even say languorous. So it follows that the next guy would bring back the fun and lightheartedness, at least to some extent.

    Why? The Craig era has been a massive success so why would they not decide to go down the same route?
    At the same time, EON will likely be looking for someone that is a visual contrast to Craig, more of the traditional tall, dark and handsome type.

    Why? They were happy to go with Craig because they thought he was the best man for the job. Why would they not apply the same rule for the next actor they go for?
    Having said that, they probably don't want to move the dial to far in the other direction, so they'll be looking for someone with a mystique about them, a sense of danger.

    If you're a good actor you can portray a character who seems to have these attributes.
    Turner appears to tick all the boxes on paper

    Does he? Which boxes? Ones that you have made up? I'm sure there are a number of actors who look different to Craig and could portray a sense of danger. Why is it only Turner that can possibly fit the bill?
    once I mention Aidan Turner and point them to some of his work, they all just kinda end up agreeing with me. There's no way EON hasn't realized this yet.

    Delusions of grandeur indeed. How can EON possibly have not realised that Mendes is right?
    Germanlady wrote: »
    Come on guys, admit it - every conspiracy theorie from me is better then this

    Very good @GL. Quote of the day.
  • Posts: 16,149
    I vividly remember in October of 1998- during an interview while shooting The Thomas Crown Affair- Brosnan announced the title of the 19th Bond would be THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH, it would start shooting in January and would film in Istanbul.
    Wouldn't it be nice if we were so lucky with Daniel Craig on October 7th ?
    Oh, well. Once again- I repeat- I miss those 2 year gaps.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Can't wait for the day someone like Jamie Bell is announced and the likes of GL and TheWiz will beg for Aidan Turner to get the part...

    This anti-Aiden Turner thing some here have going is reminiscent of the Craigisnotbond movement. Troubling.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    This anti-Aiden Turner thing some here have going is reminiscent of the Craigisnotbond movement. Troubling.

    Hardly. Besides, Turner isn't even confirmed as Bond. He's just constantly being shoved down our throats. Some like him. Fine, others don't, fine. Can we just shut up about him. Turner's name getting thrown around all the time is just as annoying as Elba's.
  • RC7RC7
    edited October 2016 Posts: 10,512
    Can't wait for the day someone like Jamie Bell is announced and the likes of GL and TheWiz will beg for Aidan Turner to get the part...

    This anti-Aiden Turner thing some here have going is reminiscent of the Craigisnotbond movement. Troubling.

    It's not anti-Turner, it's anti-relentless conjecture passed off as having some sort of truth. As my Dad would say, a load of old Billy bollocks.
    Murdock wrote: »
    This anti-Aiden Turner thing some here have going is reminiscent of the Craigisnotbond movement. Troubling.

    Hardly. Besides, Turner isn't even confirmed as Bond. He's just constantly being shoved down our throats. Some like him. Fine, others don't, fine. Can we just shut up about him. Turner's name getting thrown around all the time is just as annoying as Elba's.

    Quite.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited October 2016 Posts: 8,392
    @Wiz

    1 - Why would they try and make back to back tenures identical? Because they have done that before or shown any interest in doing so.

    2 - Yes, they thought Craig was the best man for the job but you have to qualify that by putting it in the context of where the franchise was at that point, and where cinematic trends were going. Craig fit the bill then, Turner fits the bill now.

    3/4 - Again, there is more to it than just looking different. You can tell by the way Aidan handles himself in the press that he is very different compared to Craig. Craig is often on edge and defensive, whereas Turner seems relaxed and at home. Generally it is a good idea to follow one up with the other. EON know this, because it's what they've been doing for over 50 years now.

    5 - It's not a question of me being right, it's a question of EON being a company with common sense and an established way of doing things which is observable. Why would they randomly throw out the script?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited October 2016 Posts: 9,117
    Can't wait for the day someone like Jamie Bell is announced and the likes of GL and TheWiz will beg for Aidan Turner to get the part...

    This anti-Aiden Turner thing some here have going is reminiscent of the Craigisnotbond movement. Troubling.

    You fail to differentiate between being anti Turner (can provide a quote from me saying I definitively don't want Turner?) and being anti Mendes' infantile and relentless Turner spamming based on absolutely no evidence in the slightest.
    @Wiz

    1 - Why would they try and make back to back tenures identical? Because they have done that before or shown any interest in doing so.

    2 - Yes, they thought Craig was the best man for the job but you have to qualify that by putting it in the context of where the franchise was at that point, and where cinematic trends were going. Craig fit the bill then, Turner fits the bill now.

    3/4 - Again, there is more to it than just looking different. You can tell by the way Aidan handles himself in the press that he is very different compared to Craig. Craig is often on edge and defensive, whereas Turner seems relaxed and at home. Generally it is a good idea to follow one up with the other. EON know this, because it's what they've been doing for over 50 years now.

    5 - It's not a question of me being right, it's a question of EON being a company with common sense and an established way of doing things which is observable. Why would they randomly throw out the script?

    I really just can't be bothered any more. As Murdock says it more tiresome than Elba now.

    You win Mendes; Turner is going to be the next Bond and only a fool would argue to the contrary.


  • RC7RC7
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    @Wiz

    1 - Why would they try and make back to back tenures identical? Because they have done that before or shown any interest in doing so.

    2 - Yes, they thought Craig was the best man for the job but you have to qualify that by putting it in the context of where the franchise was at that point, and where cinematic trends were going. Craig fit the bill then, Turner fits the bill now.

    3/4 - Again, there is more to it than just looking different. You can tell by the way Aidan handles himself in the press that he is very different compared to Craig. Craig is often on edge and defensive, whereas Turner seems relaxed and at home. Generally it is a good idea to follow one up with the other. EON know this, because it's what they've been doing for over 50 years now.

    5 - It's not a question of me being right, it's a question of EON being a company with common sense and an established way of doing things which is observable. Why would they randomly throw out the script?

    Still can't see any facts in there.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    RC7 wrote: »
    @Wiz

    1 - Why would they try and make back to back tenures identical? Because they have done that before or shown any interest in doing so.

    2 - Yes, they thought Craig was the best man for the job but you have to qualify that by putting it in the context of where the franchise was at that point, and where cinematic trends were going. Craig fit the bill then, Turner fits the bill now.

    3/4 - Again, there is more to it than just looking different. You can tell by the way Aidan handles himself in the press that he is very different compared to Craig. Craig is often on edge and defensive, whereas Turner seems relaxed and at home. Generally it is a good idea to follow one up with the other. EON know this, because it's what they've been doing for over 50 years now.

    5 - It's not a question of me being right, it's a question of EON being a company with common sense and an established way of doing things which is observable. Why would they randomly throw out the script?

    Still can't see any facts in there.

    What are you talking about? Mendes has said it so it will come to pass. What more proof do you need?

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    actually if anyone but turner is the next bond I might be relieved he didn't get it. just so this discussion of an actor ever day can stop seriously I have heard turner's name more times then i think I have heard my wife's at this point.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I'm starting to wonder which is the peak of @Mendes ludicrous career: this thread or the codename thread where he came up with legendary hypothesis that each new Bond goes to visit the grave of their predecessor's dead wife?
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    Are we being compared to the cretins at CraigIsNotBond, because we don't have a boner each time Turner name is mentioned?

    Ah, yes, I forgot about that one dear Wiz. How is your grave visiting duties going, by the way? Are you down to visit the gravestone to your former vets, third cousin, once removed by marriage yet?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    royale65 wrote: »
    Are we being compared to the cretins at CraigIsNotBond, because we don't have a boner each time Turner name is mentioned?

    Ah, yes, I forgot about that one dear Wiz. How is your grave visiting duties going, by the way? Are you down to visit the gravestone to your former vets, third cousin, once removed by marriage yet?

    Too right mate. It's contractual. If I don't visit 100 graves a week they can dock my pay. Obviously I'm never actually in work because I spend all my time tramping round the country trying to uncover where the great, great grandfather of the bloke who had my job 10 years before I arrived is buried but they think it's more important that I do that than any work.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    It's interesting that you keep attributing these things to me. I didn't come up with codename theory, and I wasn't the first person to think Aidan Turner would make a good Bond. Not by a long shot.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    royale65 wrote: »
    Are we being compared to the cretins at CraigIsNotBond, because we don't have a boner each time Turner name is mentioned?

    Ah, yes, I forgot about that one dear Wiz. How is your grave visiting duties going, by the way? Are you down to visit the gravestone to your former vets, third cousin, once removed by marriage yet?

    Too right mate. It's contractual. If I don't visit 100 graves a week they can dock my pay. Obviously I'm never actually in work because I spend all my time tramping round the country trying to uncover where the great, great grandfather of the bloke who had my job 10 years before I arrived is buried but they think it's more important that I do that than any work.

    Quite. It is a valuable job you are doing. Keep it up!
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    We need news.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Well we should be getting some in 6 days so there is really no point commenting on this thread until then.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Murdock wrote: »
    Well we should be getting some in 6 days so there is really no point commenting on this thread until then.
    Agreed.
  • (Not really) wild guesses about Bond 25:

    --If Craig comes back, expect to hear more about the agony of playing James Bond. You know, along the lines of “I’ve been trying to get out of this from the very moment I got into it, but they won’t let me go."

    --If a new actor is cast, Eon will say they're "going back to Fleming."

    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/13/wild-guesses-about-007s-film-future/
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    (Not really) wild guesses about Bond 25:

    --If Craig comes back, expect to hear more about the agony of playing James Bond. You know, along the lines of “I’ve been trying to get out of this from the very moment I got into it, but they won’t let me go."

    --If a new actor is cast, Eon will say they're "going back to Fleming."

    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/13/wild-guesses-about-007s-film-future/

    I read this article and it sounds like the writer is deaf to sarcasm when it comes to Craig. Jesus, I'm more the fool for responding.

  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    I don't think anybody took Craig seriously. That doesn't mean the comment wasn't damaging to Bond and to the momentum of the then upcoming SP.

    If I had just spent 250m on a movie to have its star make such irresponsible comments as that I would've been pissed. ...oh wait they were. As I fan I sure the hell was.
  • edited October 2016 Posts: 2,115
    peter wrote: »
    (Not really) wild guesses about Bond 25:

    --If Craig comes back, expect to hear more about the agony of playing James Bond. You know, along the lines of “I’ve been trying to get out of this from the very moment I got into it, but they won’t let me go."

    --If a new actor is cast, Eon will say they're "going back to Fleming."

    https://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/13/wild-guesses-about-007s-film-future/

    I read this article and it sounds like the writer is deaf to sarcasm when it comes to Craig. Jesus, I'm more the fool for responding.

    Absolutely. Obviously Craig was being sarcastic when he said it was his idea to title Bond 22 as Quantum of Solace because who'd ever really believe they'd let an actor name the movie.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/3096758/Daniel-Craig-Bond-film-name-Quantum-of-Solace-was-my-idea.html

    And obviously he was sarcastic when he said the Fleming titles didn't mean anything when anybody who actually read them would know the titles are explained.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/3096758/Daniel-Craig-Bond-film-name-Quantum-of-Solace-was-my-idea.html

    And obviously he was sarcastic when he said he and Marc Forster really wrote Quantum because anybody who actually kept up with stories done during the time of production knew that Joshua Zetumer was hired to do rewrites during filming.

    Just sarcasm.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I hope we're less than a week away from some sort of confirmation. Trying not to get my hopes up just in case.
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