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My Brosnan rankings - 6/14/23/20
The only film I don't like is TWINE. DAD has a lot of up sides that people tend to ignore, and TND is very underrated IMO. A slick, stylish outing and a loving rendition of the formula.
I just hope this doesn't mean Mendes might also return...!
And Newman.
No Mendes means no continuation story, imho.
I don't know what it is about Mendes's direction but I just find it a little flaccid.
I think it may partly be that he's dreadful at action and suspense. And he's obsessed with these rather shallow 'personal' storylines about Bond's childhood that feel tacked on and actually don't have any emotional resonance.
There were lots of good ideas in both his films but for me neither really took off. I prefer SP, and I actually feel the sense of unfulfilled potential more in relation to SF. With SF I think the basic concepts are pretty solid but it's a bit of an incoherent mess as executed.
The Scottish finale could and should have been fantastic but just limps over the finishing line.
And don't start me on Newman. They will probably make a best of SF and SP for Bond 25 score.
@bondjames I don't think Mendes is returning but even though Craig is back and they bring some things back from spectre doesn't mean its a full continuation it will be a partial continuation I think but not full I also think a Felix Lieter will come back to the series so will David Arnold
So I can see a scenario where these folks are alluded to (especially Madeline) but not dwelled on.
IMHO , you either grasp the nettle and havea really clever script writer deal with the mess and come out at the other end with some sort of respect or just dump it and move on with a clean slate.
Surely, given the choice, a scriptwriter would want to do the same and thow us in the deep end of a great, fresh, baggage free , 2 hours of quality Bond material?
I do wonder though that , if they do that with DC, it is an almost open admission that SP failed in providing a convincing and sustainable end/climax.
Also see greater audience moan and predicted BO drop off from announcement of Mendes return.
Just hire P&W back kill the series and have plenty of time to make crap no one watches.
I agree on BB. Sadly she will just do whatever pleases her without thinking of the bigger picture. And as long as she is successful with it, it'll stay that way.
As for BO drop off, Spectre still was the second most successful Bond movie ever and in many parts of the world, including the German-language region Spectre did almost as well as Skyfall or even outdid it. I'm talking ticket sales.
The BO situation was hurt by exchange rates a great lot. But in the end it was the US who prevented Spectre to become as successful as Skyfall.
If Mendes would return, and P+W, it still will make at least another 800 million. But for us die-hard fans it would be a catastrophe.
I'll be as sound as a pound....
I don't see Campbell coming back to continue someone else's story. The last two times he did Bond he reimagined the franchise and if by some chance he's back again it will be to do the same thing once more.
But you see, He wouldn't be continuing Mendes' story. He's be continuing Bond's story. He's just has some extra things to work with. There are so many possibilities things can be taken. He has a chance to take Craig's Bond in a bold new direction.
The next one either has to be direct continuation or a clean slate type approach. I'd personally prefer a clean slate, as although I enjoyer SP, the story didn't really leave me wanting more of the same.
Bond is a guy who goes about sleuthing into the plans of some wealthy ego-maniac or some secret organisation. Bond films should be about mystery and intrigue. Of course action is enjoyable as well when properly staged and executed, and there's nothing wrong with a moment of character insight, but it should never become the focus. EON from 1962-1997 understood this, and then they hired P+W and the series lost it's way. The only story since then that has unraveled naturally the way it should was written way back in '53 and simply updated.
This is why I'm not really interested in seeing Craig return. Because as long as Craig returns and the same continuity continues and the same writers keep writing these scripts, we're going to be stuck with the same problem. They will find a way to make this spy franchise, based on a series of pulp spy novels, about something other than intrigue and suspense. Because it's much easier to fill your script with explosions or dump half of Friedrich Nietzsche's collected works into your story than it is to sit down and come up with a tight, satisfying thriller using craft and skill. If Bond 25 is to be successful in rediscovering what truly made the franchise great then, it has to be bold and take a fresh approach. That means starting from scratch with a new director, new writers and most importantly a new Bond. I have nothing against Craig but his interpretation of the character is following in the same pattern as Connery and Moore before him. His shtick is becoming far too refined to the point where he is becoming a parody of himself. Some say he looked bored in SP, however I feel like the problem is that he is so predictable now, his responses are so expected, that it almost seems like laziness.
Anyway, the most important decision EON can make is who will carry the franchise forward into the next decade. They need someone with danger written over their face, someone who has a definite mystique about them. That is the most important decision for EON to make next.
Turner, from the nose down reminds me of smug Ben Affleck.
I didn't even mention Turner.
(and has been for too many months)