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  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Anyone know when 'Kings' starts shooting? Casting has already begun.

    I don't know. Presumably after Purity, which might take up six months' time. Has anyone heard when Purity starts filming?

    Showtime have their TCA panels on Monday, January 9th, 2017. I would expect at least a brief mention of 'Purity'. They may be saving their bigger presentation on it until the summer tour in November 2017.

  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Anyone know when 'Kings' starts shooting? Casting has already begun.

    I don't know. Presumably after Purity, which might take up six months' time. Has anyone heard when Purity starts filming?

    Showtime have their TCA panels on Monday, January 9th, 2017. I would expect at least a brief mention of 'Purity'. They may be saving their bigger presentation on it until the summer tour in November 2017.

    Some rough guessing on my part.

    If they film all 20 episodes in 2017 (they're going to show 10 in '17 and 10 in '18), it could take six months. That'd be 1.3 weeks of production time per episode.

    If six months is approximately correct, if they start April 1, they'd be done by the start of October.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Anyone know when 'Kings' starts shooting? Casting has already begun.

    I don't know. Presumably after Purity, which might take up six months' time. Has anyone heard when Purity starts filming?

    Showtime have their TCA panels on Monday, January 9th, 2017. I would expect at least a brief mention of 'Purity'. They may be saving their bigger presentation on it until the summer tour in November 2017.

    Some rough guessing on my part.

    If they film all 20 episodes in 2017 (they're going to show 10 in '17 and 10 in '18), it could take six months. That'd be 1.3 weeks of production time per episode.

    If six months is approximately correct, if they start April 1, they'd be done by the start of October.

    Which means if Craig returns he could begin in December
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Start in Jan 2018 for a Nov 2018 release. Shoot the film in ninety to one hundred days. Make it lean and mean with Craig. Go back to the Fleming roots. Continue in whatever best way re: Madeline and Blofeld (whether Bond leaves her, or she is killed, is a moot point- it's about execution of the story that will count). Blofeld is still alive. He is still powerful. Never mention Blofeld's and Bond's history again, but;

    We do have a megalomaniacal Blofeld, who believes, in his heart, he's the "author of all (Bond's) pain". So what an incredible humiliation it must have been for him to have Bond get him arrested. He would have preferred death ("finish it... finish it...").

    Bond delivers the ultimate blow to Blofeld; a blow to his over-sized ego.

    So, we have this powerful nutcase locked away. He must spend his days planning revenge (SPecial Executive Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion).

    I want to see Blofeld release on Bond, and the world, his wrath. So whether Madeline's around or not, there is the potential for a truly epic mano a mano between these two. Send DC off in the proper manner, the way he came in (like a raging bull of righteousness).
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited December 2016 Posts: 1,756
    I honestly do not want to see Blofeld again. I do not understand why he is so highly regarded. He worked a lot better as the cat stroking man in the shadows, than as a lead. The one exception being OHMSS.

    Interesting fact I didn't know. Anthony Dawson, who played Dent, played the body of Blofeld in FRWL.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Dawson played Dent.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
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    Craig in "Kings" may cause a bit of an issue in the press.

    A movie centered around a very deep, racial cultural topic casts a white actor to share the lead role with Halle Berry. The argument can be made that, instead of focusing on the issues and stories behind the King riots--right or wrong--we're getting the "white" perspective.

    I know it's based on existing material, but look at the backlash with Matt Damon's The Great Wall and Scarlett Johansson in Ghost In The Shell for examples of similar issues.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Don't jinx it. In today's social climate I can imagine something like that happening.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    dominicgreene wrote: »
    I honestly do not want to see Blofeld again. I do not understand why he is so highly regarded. He worked a lot better as the cat stroking man in the shadows, than as a lead. The one exception being OHMSS.

    Interesting fact I didn't know. Anthony Dawson, who played Strangways, played the body of Blofeld in FRWL.

    I agree, part of the character's appeal was the mystery; this incarnation was revealed with no build up. Add to that the ludicrous connection to Bond and you have a villain who isn't very effective.

  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
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    I wholeheartly agree: I preferred the Blofeld from FRWL and TB and wished it would have been like this in SP, too.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    SeanCraig wrote: »
    I wholeheartly agree: I preferred the Blofeld from FRWL and TB and wished it would have been like this in SP, too.
    They tried to do some of that with the 'in shadow' thing at the Spectre meeting and also without showing his face at the funeral. It was an interesting throwback, but Waltz didn't quite have the same menace or gravitas to me as the earlier unseen actors.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Waltz is a Joker type of a villain rather than a menacing one, just like Silva was, but more sophisticated and far more sane, knowing how to hold himself up.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    The film wont come in 2018. And dont be suprised if Waltz gets dispatched in the PTS fif their looking at doing a different story.
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Anyone know when 'Kings' starts shooting? Casting has already begun.

    I don't know. Presumably after Purity, which might take up six months' time. Has anyone heard when Purity starts filming?

    Showtime have their TCA panels on Monday, January 9th, 2017. I would expect at least a brief mention of 'Purity'. They may be saving their bigger presentation on it until the summer tour in November 2017.

    Some rough guessing on my part.

    If they film all 20 episodes in 2017 (they're going to show 10 in '17 and 10 in '18), it could take six months. That'd be 1.3 weeks of production time per episode.

    If six months is approximately correct, if they start April 1, they'd be done by the start of October.

    Which means if Craig returns he could begin in December

    If they have a script and director hired *AND* Craig's Kings movie isn't in production. (I don't know the date of the latter).
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Dawson played Dent.

    Whoops. Meant Dent.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    dominicgreene wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Dawson played Dent.

    Whoops. Meant Dent.
    IMDB says that Dawson played the body of Blofeld (as opposed to the voice) too. Is this true?
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    edited December 2016 Posts: 2,115
    bondjames wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Dawson played Dent.

    Whoops. Meant Dent.
    IMDB says that Dawson played the body of Blofeld (as opposed to the voice) too. Is this true?

    Eric Pohlmann provided Blofeld's voice.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Dawson played Dent.

    Whoops. Meant Dent.
    IMDB says that Dawson played the body of Blofeld (as opposed to the voice) too. Is this true?

    Eric Pohlmann provided Blofeld's voice.
    Yes, that's right but apparently Dawson provided the body in both FRWL & TB, which I wasn't aware of before. Unless IMDB is wrong.
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    Posts: 2,115
    bondjames wrote: »
    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Dawson played Dent.

    Whoops. Meant Dent.
    IMDB says that Dawson played the body of Blofeld (as opposed to the voice) too. Is this true?

    Eric Pohlmann provided Blofeld's voice.
    Yes, that's right but apparently Dawson provided the body in both FRWL & TB, which I wasn't aware of before. Unless IMDB is wrong.

    That's correct. Dawson was a friend of Terence Young.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I like the shadows as well re: Blofeld, but when he comes out of the shadows, he can be, and should be, scary as f007!

    Don't any of you shadow guys like/love Savalas????[
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited December 2016 Posts: 15,423
    I agree. Blofeld has to be overtly scary the way Moriarty is to Sherlock Holmes.

    Let's have a look at how Jared Harris played Moriarty in Game of Shadows who was both physically and psychologically superior to Holmes. I literally love Harris' performance in that film. Bond still hasn't been given that villain yet. The villain that would not only haunt him, but also physically challenge him. Blofeld should be that, and not a defenseless evil mastermind.
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    MIcheal G Wilson stated how Spectre is of homage to Dr No. He is never seen/ teased throughout the whole movie & not seen until the end.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    MIcheal G Wilson stated how Spectre is of homage to Dr No. He is never seen/ teased throughout the whole movie & not seen until the end.

    Maybe Wilson didn't see the movie ...Blofeld is in Rome twice.

    Maybe they should have paid homage to the menacing nature of Dr. No ....or just paid a decent screenwriter.

    Homage ain't worth what it was.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    MIcheal G Wilson stated how Spectre is of homage to Dr No. He is never seen/ teased throughout the whole movie & not seen until the end.

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    :D
  • SeanCraigSeanCraig Germany
    edited December 2016 Posts: 732
    peter wrote: »
    Don't any of you shadow guys like/love Savalas????
    I like Savalas way more than Donald Pleasance actually and in the OHMSS it's cool to get closer to him. But I would have preferred to not reveal Blofeld in YOLT and have done so more slowly within OHMSS.

    For his re-appearance in SP they did nearly everything wrong with the character. It starts out good with the meeting in Rome how everybody is afraid or fascinated of him ... but the character is ruined once he does his "cuckoo". Within the Mr.White sequence you get a feeling how Blofeld should be received, what they were aiming at. But it just did not work out. I am no fan of Waltz in general but he just did not deliver what I would have expected from a modern Blofeld. Dr. Evil is more scary than him!

    I hope they will correct this within B25 - or they reduce Blofeld to the shadowy figure again ... which makes no sense because of SP. Oh I just wish they would not have revealed this iconic character the way they did. I am fine or excited about all the other modern incarnations of classic Bond characters starting with Q, Moneypenny and also M. But Blofeld ... OMG.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Both of Mendes' villains are blunted by their "quirkiness" A touch of subtle eccentricity can work but both of his are too over the top.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    Craig in "Kings" may cause a bit of an issue in the press.

    A movie centered around a very deep, racial cultural topic casts a white actor to share the lead role with Halle Berry. The argument can be made that, instead of focusing on the issues and stories behind the King riots--right or wrong--we're getting the "white" perspective.

    I know it's based on existing material, but look at the backlash with Matt Damon's The Great Wall and Scarlett Johansson in Ghost In The Shell for examples of similar issues.

    The internet has already started refering to the film as "white saviour", so they've already got an uphill battle on their hands.

    But at the 'Beyond Bond' talk DC said he was only playing a small part in the film.

  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    When I read the books when I pictured Blofeld I always pictured Telly's Blofeld
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    JWESTBROOK wrote: »
    Craig in "Kings" may cause a bit of an issue in the press.

    A movie centered around a very deep, racial cultural topic casts a white actor to share the lead role with Halle Berry. The argument can be made that, instead of focusing on the issues and stories behind the King riots--right or wrong--we're getting the "white" perspective.

    I know it's based on existing material, but look at the backlash with Matt Damon's The Great Wall and Scarlett Johansson in Ghost In The Shell for examples of similar issues.

    The internet has already started refering to the film as "white saviour", so they've already got an uphill battle on their hands.

    But at the 'Beyond Bond' talk DC said he was only playing a small part in the film.

    Stories from a few months ago when this project first surfaced, re: white savior angle.

    Why the Daniel Craig-Halle Berry L.A. Riots Film is a Bad Idea (Hollywood Reporter)

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/daniel-craig-halle-berry-riots-908267


    Daniel Craig And Halle Berry's LA Riots Movie Could Be A Disaster (Huffington Post)

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daniel-craig-and-halle-berrys-la-riots-movie-could-be-a-disaster_us_577bf571e4b041646410d6fd



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