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Bond always lives. People who are thinking that EON Productions is always, for at least 1,5 years, locked up in a huge wintersleep.....after the events of a new Bond film, really should become less naive :-). Natasha Phelon for instance is more or less working all day at EON House (as receptionist/assistant). Andrew Noakes is working at this very moment, visiting Abu-Dhabi on behalf of EON:
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Michael's son Greg Wilson is already doing most day-to-day activities for EON. John Roebuck needs to continuously work on the accountancy dep. of EON, including filing annual reports.
So EON is active always....and never sleeps. However, all these ongoing activities do not necessarily mean Bond #25 is in production. Nor does it mean that the real pre-production is taking place at this very moment. So the movie industry isn't that black-and-white. Just be patient :-).
Over on the MI6 Bondathon thread we are joyously watching and talking about the series, and it's proving to be terrific fun.
On here everyone is fretting about the next film (fretting officially began on 1st November 2015), rather than wallowing in the glory of this magnificent series.
I think SP was more about Blofeld than it was about Craig's Bond. Just like SF was more about M than it was about Bond. To me it was a Blofeld origin story of sorts, for the new generation of fans that came along for the Bond ride after SF.
So they can either all come back and take this story forward further, or go for the clean break. I'd prefer the latter, but if they go for the former, they have a chance at redemption, at least for this life long fan. So either way, it works for me.
For release in 2025 to coincide with the 40th anniversary of AVTAK. Bond 25 will be a shot for shot remake with the then 56/57 year old Craig playing Roger's Bond. Filming in San Francisco. Unlike most current films the climax will not be a CGI Golden Gate Bridge, rather Eon is going to dust of the old miniatures and scales down sets and re use those.
The issue is we have heard things my guess is right now EON are looking at various treatments/scripts
We know they meet with Guy Rithchie for directing Bond 25 so yeah we will see what happens next but to say we have heard nothing is silly
I don't blame anyone for that ....I'm just the same.
Just look at @Gustav_Graves' work. He spent his time constructing an utterly brilliant script I had a jaw dropping experience reading it. So, why shouldn't we go ahead with the same route instead of jabbering the same old things?
I didn't mean we shouldn't per se. ...just saying that we are all desperate for news and that at times we get a bit tense.
This thread obviously can't really progress until we get news.
Its hard to discuss news if we don't have news.
"SCORCHING:#DavidOyelowo & #DanielCraig are brilliant in #SamGold's prod of #Othello @NYTW79 -- It seethes with rage."
I wonder if this has something to do with his reply to @jake24?
Well, it can still use some touch-ups @ClarkDevlin ;-). But thank you hehe
The frustration isn't with the speculation, necessarily, it's simply with people writing the same thing over and over and over and over and over again, ad infinitum. I suspect others, like myself, pop in here when they see a great many new posts (regardless of a title change - which, incidentally, is usually a red herring based on equally baseless speculation) to see what's going down. It's easy to say, 'ignore it', but when there are new posts I read them all - firstly because I do actually care if anyone has anything interesting to say and secondly because I don't want to state things that have already been stated. That's essentially why it can be a bit of pain in the arse trudging through the same back and forth, back and forth, about nothing.
No one here is going to stop people speculating, but from where I'm sitting it does seem like a few people would do well to get some air, watch a Bond, read a Fleming, what have you... rather than concern themselves with this world of faux gossip. People are getting themselves worked about untruths, which, to me, seems pointless.
Incidentally this thread has given me an idea for the B25 title - 'Strawclutcher'.
This is a popular thread for a reason. Far more popular than other threads with more 'substantive' discussions.
I have a look now and again,and comment if need be,waiting for that first moment of real speculation...its exciting and frustrating at the same time haha !!
I've taught you to love chickens, to love their flesh, their voice...
We had pages of speculation before Spectre. Then everyone moves on to a different thread to slag it off, and a new thread is opened to speculate on the next film.
Circle of life.
....wait that's a turkey. Nevermind....
If you can PM when I'm allowed back in, that would be most helpful.
@NicNac, indeed. The mission statement @Creasy47 and I operated under to get the Bondathon going was motivated by the both of us being sick of hearing Bond 25 mewling. Out of something infuriating came the wonderful and enthralling.
Therapy? Interesting comparison, though it's no great wonder why this thread is popular. You never need to convince people to show up and bugger on about the negatives in a psychologically self-indulgent way. In the age of Facebook everybody thinks their word matters, and they must share it over and over again, in case it wasn't properly expressed the first thousand times. No need to worry about having good sense in their posts, researching the film industry to have an opinion worth reading, or the like. It would be nice if that changed for some, but I won't hold my breath. This time next week we'll still have people who frankly don't know how filmmaking works complaining that there's no script, no casting news, etc, forgetting all the eggs that have to be in a line before all that is explored in a production. And we'll still have people even more infuriatingly presuming that EON are sitting on their asses, twiddling their thumbs. Now that really sets me off.
Another thing. People always say things like, "It's taking so long this time," and "Cubby wouldn't have put us in this situation," but really, folks, what the hell do we have to compare this to? I can assure you that if the internet of today with all its communication capabilities (and lamebrain posters) was around for people to complain through during the 60s, 70s and 80s of Bond, we would be experiencing the same dissatisfaction, impatience, confusion and upheaval we are now, if not worse. People would be typing away at how Pleasence's Blofeld failed to meet expectations set by the early Blofelds, and how OHMSS and Tracy's death was tarnished and disgraced by the 70s, on top of how stupid Bond in space is and how old Grandpa Roger was getting on in the role.
Simply because the cancerous nature of the internet has only been open to us for a relatively short time, it feels like productions are moving slower, are more hidden from us, than they really are. Just like how crime is steadily falling yet all we hear on the news is depressing tragedies, shootings, etc. We've been had, tricked into thinking things appear as they do not. I wish the internet was around following Sean's refusal to do any more Bond following YOLT. Can you imagine the utter paralytic anger people would've expressed on forums such as this one day and night? What would people have said after George left after one film? Christ, they'd be wondering what'd happened to the series, likely proclaiming that without Connery, the end was nigh. How would they react to the tonal change in the Moore era from Connery's films, or Dalton's suddenly more earnest Bond, and the big dog of them all, the biggest hiatus in Bond history post-1989? It would be an utter madhouse on the interwebs, a space so full of incoherent, gasping cries, wild gesticulations and shrill shouts that one would believe they were locked inside an inescapable zoo with no key in sight to free them.
In comparison to what we have now, I think we have it a lot better than what fans of other decades would've had to be put through. And older fans didn't get the chance to angrily shout about re-castings, production waits, casting choices, tonal changes, and loads more on forums like this, to shout angrily in the silence and hear other voices upset about the same things, knowing they weren't alone. We do have that ability, however, and we should use the opportunity with a far greater responsibility than we have. People act like the sky is falling, and it's all so damn dramatic. We are fine, all. We will make it through this. You lot are having a fit at not having news on a Bond film barely a year after its release; just let that sink in. Can you imagine sticking through the gargantuan hiatus of 1989 with that level of impatience? You'd drive yourselves mad. I'm quite frankly happy I was negative 4 years old when the hiatus began, and only two years old when GE came out, just as I'm happy the internet wasn't around so that nobody-including me-would've had to listen to all the incessant complaining that would've lit the whole system on fire.
Let's do better next time.
However, I think you're getting yourself worked up over something that is only meant to be an innocent medium for discussing the franchise's future. I can understand how it can be frustrating for those like yourself with a certain expertise when it comes to the film industry. Maybe we need you around more often.