No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Posts: 1,680
    I think its safe to say 2018 is off the table.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Tuck91 wrote: »
    I think its safe to say 2018 is off the table.

    Those of us who were a bit more optimistic felt that 2018 was plausible, but I've felt for a while now that 2019 is more likely. We're a year plus from the release of SP, and this distribution deal still doesn't seem any closer to being finalized, so I'm sure late 2019 is the soonest we'll be getting this next installment.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    Give it a few more months and we will know for certain.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I don't even think I have a problem with the budget itself - it's the way the money is allocated that I took issues with. If you're sinking $250 million+ into a movie and SP is the final product, then yes, you need to dial things way back. The film doesn't look like it cost anywhere near that to shoot.

    Totally agree
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    This excerpt from Purvis's interview shows what a mess it was, which probably resulted in some wastage.

    "People were already in pre-production on the film”, he recalled, “and they wanted to see things all the time. And sometimes they couldn’t decide what they wanted until they’d seen it written. So you write scene upon scene upon scene. You write so much. But how it finally got shaped was probably down to [Sam Mendes,] the director”.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited January 2017 Posts: 3,126
    I think 20th century fox will be the distributor for bond 25 and maybe beyond they have a really good relationship in the DVD distribution and they extended their contract through 2020 which includes bond so why not extend that to theatre distribution also it would only make sense.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    That's even if we're lucky to get a Bond film by 2020. Lord knows when the distribution deal is sorted; and when EoN can course correct their creative direction that results into a worthwhile shooting script. They've been taking too many Ls for my liking.
  • edited January 2017 Posts: 386
    Happy to say adios to Craig, Mendes, even Fiennes, Harris and Whishaw if it came down to it.

    The Craig era has lasted 11 years going on twelve.

    I'd love to see a stripped down budget and a much tighter production schedule. Every two years like clockwork.

    Choose an edgy actor in his early 30s who can do his own stunts.

    Write the first film with FRWL as the template. Keep the locations in Europe, for example, and bring back some old fashioned spying and espionage.

    Make it standalone, forget about navel-gazing, ponderous movies about bond's various existential crises.

    Make Martin Campbell resident bond director a la John Glen.

    That's what I'd do anyway.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    GetCarter wrote: »
    Happy to say adios to Craig, Mendes, even Fiennes, Harris and Whishaw if it came down to it.

    The Craig era has lasted 11 years going on twelve.

    I'd love to see a stripped down budget and a much tighter production schedule. Every two years like clockwork.

    Choose an edgy actor in his early 30s who can do his own stunts.

    Write the first film with FRWL as the template. Keep the locations in Europe, for example, and bring back some old fashioned spying and espionage.

    Make it standalone, forget about navel-gazing, ponderous movies about bond's various existential crises.

    Make Martin Campbell resident bond director a la John Glen.

    That's what I'd do anyway.

    I'm in!

  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    If Craig is out they should at least give Campbell a call and see if he's interested in the slightest. He remains my number 1 choice, then Soderbergh and Villeneuve.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    edited January 2017 Posts: 3,126
    doubleoego wrote: »
    That's even if we're lucky to get a Bond film by 2020. Lord knows when the distribution deal is sorted; and when EoN can course correct their creative direction that results into a worthwhile shooting script. They've been taking too many Ls for my liking.
    True but I doubt it too much external pressure from press and studio will force them to do something they can't just sit idle while fans jump off bandwagon or pout.
    Something has to give at some point.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    MGM practically has a knife to their throat, if they don't make a move quickly!
  • NSGWNSGW London
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    GetCarter wrote: »
    Happy to say adios to Craig, Mendes, even Fiennes, Harris and Whishaw if it came down to it.

    The Craig era has lasted 11 years going on twelve.

    I'd love to see a stripped down budget and a much tighter production schedule. Every two years like clockwork.

    Choose an edgy actor in his early 30s who can do his own stunts.

    Write the first film with FRWL as the template. Keep the locations in Europe, for example, and bring back some old fashioned spying and espionage.

    Make it standalone, forget about navel-gazing, ponderous movies about bond's various existential crises.

    Make Martin Campbell resident bond director a la John Glen.

    That's what I'd do anyway.

    Perfect.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    MGM practically has a knife to their throat, if they don't make a move quickly!

    =))
  • Posts: 37
    bondjames wrote: »
    Irreplaceable may be. Of course they are. But, that doesn't mean to look out for those who aim themselves to be attractive for the teenage girls, and I'm talking about those "candidates". Go for a man who's "rugged handsome" and alpha male in every way. Someone who screams distinguished gentleman. A mixture of Moore (wit and puns), Connery (sarcasm, machismo and know-it-all attitude) and Dalton (edgy only with that death stare, but ditch the emotions). That's the perfect Bond. Give his dressing style a combination of Connery and Brosnan, from suits to casual wear, and have Moore's safari suit return at occasions, that's about it. That'd be my perfect Bond.
    Well said. I'm inclined to agree, but I still don't know where they will find this kind of perfection. They don't make them like they used to any more, sadly.

    EDIT: I'm currently watching Ray Donovan (one of my favourite tv series) Season 4. Liev Schreiber definitely has most of these attributes. He's American & too old so there's no way he could ever be Bond, but this guy definitely gives off that cool rugged vibe better than most. I've felt that way since I saw him outshine Affleck in a small part in The Sum Of all Fears.

    Agree totally with this, in fact I posted something very similar about Live Schreiber in the actors part a few weeks ago. I think in that he is every bit the Connery type - albeit American and moving forward 50 years. If we could find British / commonwealth version of him I think we would have a winner!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    All signs point towards a huge shake up and Bond being redefined and reaffirmed yet again in another incarnation. We get one of these every decade or so - Fall of the Berlin wall scuppering Daltons chances of playing Bond a third time, 9/11 ended Brosnans reign, and now Trump/Brexit has prompted another paradigm shift. Bond has always known how to ride the wave of public sentiment, so we should get the closest interpretation of the Fleming Bond we have had years, based on recent events.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,537
    A little tidbit on BBs latest doings.

    Mayor Sadiq Khan met directors Stephen Frears, Gurinder Chadha, Amma Asante, Sarah Gavron and Bond producer Barbara Broccoli along with other leading industry figures to discuss how to make the capital more attractive for film-makers and to improve skills training. - Evening Standard
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited January 2017 Posts: 10,591
    News rundown for Jan. 2016:

    January 2017
    ->It is reported that Lionsgate Entertainment is eyeing MGM as a possible distribution partner for future projects, which may well include James Bond
    ->Sony Pictures confirm that it will not be selling its movie business despite the stepping down of CEO Michael Lynton, though later reports indicate otherwise
    ->Naomie Harris meets with Bond producers, who reiterate that all gears are shifted towards non-Bond productions
    ->Bond scribes Neil Purvis and Robert Wade weigh in on Bond's place in the current political climate, and avoid ruling out the possibility of penning another Bond screenplay
    ->Sony pictures write-down a $962 million impairment charge for its film division (and are presumably tightening budgets) which will undoubtedly affect the 007 series going forward should they choose re-secure distribution rights
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Not that it will impact Bond 25 that much, should they accept, but Ben Wishaw and Rory Kinnear are two of the bookies favourites to become the next Dr. Who.

    Surprised Peter Capaldi isn't the new favouorite to replace DC ... though it's only been a day.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I hope Ben Whishaw is not leaving Bond anytime soon. I love him as Q, I think he is the natural sucessor and I think Desmond would be proud of that choice. With regards to Tanner, who can turn down that guy? We need him back too. I think that with Bond 25 there will be a lot of change and holding on to those familiar faces will be important. Luckily Naomi seems eager, but I don't know how that will be affected by Craig's departure. She seems smitten with him by her interviews. Perhaps she will think differently if the role is recast, but we'll have to see. To be honest, the one I would worry about is Feinnes. He seems to treat Bond like just another Job, like playing Voldemort in Harry Potter.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    If Tanner makes a return, they've got to give him something better to work with. He's been utterly useless during the Craig Era, only good for opening up more unnecessary inconsistencies, or stating information we already know.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    "Bond shot Haines' Bodyguard and threw him off a roof"
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited January 2017 Posts: 40,963
    doubleoego wrote: »
    "Bond shot Haines' Bodyguard and threw him off a roof"

    I stand corrected: he also shares false assumptions, too! At that point in time, I know it's trivial, but it always bugs me that Bond doesn't try to correct her. I suppose "Well, I DID throw him off a roof, but I definitely didn't shoot him" would've been irrelevant and not helped his case with M whatsoever.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Greatest fear P&W writing anything with B25. Not even a spec script. In fact I dont want P&W to even send a thank you card.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited January 2017 Posts: 15,715
    I hope Bond 25 has a new version of the gun barrel, where we finally see who is the 'unknown person' that 'Craig Bond gun downed, and it is Tanner.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    "Bond shot Haines' Bodyguard and threw him off a roof"

    I stand corrected: he also shares false assumptions, too! At that point in time, I know it's trivial, but it always bugs me that Bond doesn't try to correct her. I suppose "Well, I DID throw him off a roof, but I definitely didn't shoot him" would've been irrelevant and not helped his case with M whatsoever.

    Believe me, that bugs me so much but you're right it wouldn't have made a difference to Bond's situation.
  • edited January 2017 Posts: 4,622
    talos7 wrote: »
    GetCarter wrote: »
    Happy to say adios to Craig, Mendes, even Fiennes, Harris and Whishaw if it came down to it.

    The Craig era has lasted 11 years going on twelve.

    I'd love to see a stripped down budget and a much tighter production schedule. Every two years like clockwork.

    Choose an edgy actor in his early 30s who can do his own stunts.

    Write the first film with FRWL as the template. Keep the locations in Europe, for example, and bring back some old fashioned spying and espionage.

    Make it standalone, forget about navel-gazing, ponderous movies about bond's various existential crises.

    Make Martin Campbell resident bond director a la John Glen.

    That's what I'd do anyway.

    I'm in!

    This could work just fine, but I fear Babs is waiting on both Craig and probably Mendes too, to put out a direct Spectre follow-up.
    But as @doubleoego suggested in a very pointed lengthy post, a page or so back, and I paraphrase, Eon can't let an actor-director combo hi-jack the franchise like this again.
    Once Shatterhand :) is finally released, I think the template that @getcarter suggested is the way to go.
    The Craig-era has become tedious.
    As if "OK we have to barf out this one last Craig era film, and ideally with Mendes, and it doesn't matter how long it takes, we just have to do it.
    Only after that's done, can we get down to working out an actual sustainable direction for the franchise."
    Post QoS, the Craig-era it seems, has been lurching from film to film.
  • Creasy47 wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    "Bond shot Haines' Bodyguard and threw him off a roof"

    I stand corrected: he also shares false assumptions, too! At that point in time, I know it's trivial, but it always bugs me that Bond doesn't try to correct her. I suppose "Well, I DID throw him off a roof, but I definitely didn't shoot him" would've been irrelevant and not helped his case with M whatsoever.

    I think maybe that bothered me the first time I saw it, but now I take the scene for what it is. Bond definitely registers what M tells him and purposefully keeps silent on the matter. M already distrusts him to the extreme and has made that clear, and I think Bond fully understands that saying anything contrary to what she thinks won't help his case with her one bit. He's processing things in the moment—figuring out where he stands in all this and what he can do to continue on with his mission. Perhaps he's already working on his escape plan from the four pups M brought along to escort him. That's much better I think than Bond whining, "No I didn't."
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited February 2017 Posts: 1,756
    I might get a bit of flack for saying this but:

    Well, firstly, Craig in his early Bond days looked suitably Bondian in a strange, Connery-esque way.

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    I think his Bond look peaked with SF and some parts of SP.

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    But most of the film he seemed to look like...

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    I think he no longer has that same "look" he did before which could prove problematic.
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    Craig is in good shape but starting to lose steam. He was in amazing physical shape in CR & SF, In Spectre he is leaner than he was in SF.
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