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In this age of instant gratification and second-by-second social networking updates, a bad precedent has been set by people to know every little thing that is going on every single minute of every day. Back in the day, people actually had to just...wait for these films to come out. This hyper-connected world can be a strength, but often it's a weakness, as it can make fans insufferable to deal with.
Patience will be rewarded. SP is barely a year old and we're going to be getting another one, so let's wait it out and enjoy the other 23 we've got on hand. EON will do their work, we just have to let them.
I think SP not living up to it's expectations, this doesn't not apply to all fans of course but it does to me, some might be a bit more 'impatient' (or enthusiastic) to get more information about B25. Simply because they are longing for another good entry to the series.
It wouldn't be a hyper-faithful adaptation. It never could be.
Personally my expectation were pretty low after SF, so SP didn't disappoint me. I don't think it's a great movie, but I personally prefer it to SF.
But SF is also a Bond film!
Your point being?
A fairly obvious one darling.
Couldn't agree more.
I think that's pushing it. A few memorable well written scenes, but not close to FRWL or DN
I think both films have left fans divided.
SF is immensely entertaining, very re-watchable and in my top 10; but, the screenplay has several major plot holes and lapses in logic. This keeps it from being in the same league as the first two Bonds. It's very frustrating because all of transgressions could have been addressed, to produce in a tighter, stronger screenplay.
To judge a Bond 'screenplay' as an independent work is a complex process, especially next to much more authored pieces. This is why the whole process is much harder than many make out when saying, 'Just write a good screenplay'. It really isn't that simple. You can begin with something you personally think is a cohesive, solid piece of work, but once an exec, or producer, or director pulls on a thread, that solid bit of work can begin to unravel - and they will all pull on threads, multiple threads, at the same time.
RC7 speaks the truth. Writing a spec script, with no one interfering, is a joy, but that soon ends once producers or a production company or studio decide they like your script, option it, and then begin to pull those threads. This happens all the time. Working for hire on a script, for example an established TV show or film series, means the writer is required to work within that particular system - and it can be very dispiriting at times.
I agree. Around the time Silva derails the train, I'm like, "What's his plan again? Is it specific revenge against M/MI6 or is it general mayhem? Is he the Joker or is he more methodical?
I think that's why Haggis' work in CR was so notable in the series. He made it feel like a confident, single-author piece, much like OHMSS. Whether or not you like the "little figure" or the "family is strict Roman Catholic" lines, it did feel like Haggis (whether or not these lines were his contributions) had a true command of the story and its style.
"Watched Spectre last night and as a @007 fan I have to say if Daniel doesnt come back I just wont have closure. C"mon mate! 1 more! #Bond25"
Pretty cool that he's such a big fan, he pops in his own movies to watch him and Daniel kick each other's ass. Looking forward to seeing his role in 'Blade Runner 2049.'
Worthy of a retweet.
+1
Yeah what was that sequence how come they were no civilians on the train during rush hour ????
Which do you prefer, Skyfall or Spectre? If you like?
Might as well. I can't discuss old scores without being told to redirect things on-topic, yet every other time I enter this thread, it's on a completely non-B25 related topic.
Some consistency goes a long way.
I prefer Skyfall.