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I still see Craig coming back.
Yes, I for one am aware that a film script can be beaten beyond recognition within such a collaborative art form.
I still don't rate P@W.
For their shortcomings, I blame the producers. The writers serve at the pleasure of the producers, and at times that's what led to the shortcomings (mixed with the strengths) of DIE ANOTHER DAY as an extreme example. And that's also reigning in Tamahori. [Christopher Wood is another example--screenwriter for THE SPY WHO LOVED ME and MOONRAKER, but he would have greatly fully done more stuff of port. Tom Mankiewicz, same.]
For their recent statements on American politics, they're knuckleheads. What they said was irrational but it also doesn't have to play into the development of a new Bond film. With the stuff they got right for Bond 21-24, they must have believed in Bond's world there is right and wrong and a time for muscle, even if a price is to be paid. So do that again. Bond style. And pretty much shut up.
As for p and w
They made something great with CR but with everything else it has been shit. So unless haggis comes ok board too, this is bad news. However at least this tells us that they're actually planning on making a movie eventually.
Well said. The final version of each script as well as how that script translates to the screen is ultimately down to the creative input of the producers and the directors. P&W have gone on record saying that Tamahori, for instance, blew some of their ideas way out of proportion, taking something that was maybe a 5 on the crazy scale and jacking it up to an 11. I have no doubt this has been the way of the Bond films from the very beginning. Every film really has been by committee—just some more so than others.
And yes, "sacked" is perhaps too cold of a word to use, and yet they were in fact relieved from their duties on Skyfall. It's the same ballpark. Same thing happened with Logan on Spectre and I presume Michael France on GoldenEye. And I'm sure it's happened in other instances as well. So, right, "sacked" is too harsh, but "relieved of duties" is accurate.
They could be writing the treatment to appeal to Craig.
At least P&W know who Tiffany Case is.
If history repeats itself, Dan is waiting to see as much of a story as possible to gauge his own interest in the project and what it could give him to work with, teaming with Barbara and possibly Michael to put it all together through their input at each stage.
If Baz knows what he's talking about, then his twitter response to our jake24 suggests Craig's on-the-fenceness has to do with something other than the story/script. Money? Contract terms? Choice of director? Could be any number of things. But Baz did imply it wasn't the script Daniel was waiting on.
Since most people here agreed that if Craig returns, Bond 25 will be a sequel to SP, what happens if P&W pen a SP sequel, and after that Craig decides not to return? Continuation of SP storyline but with a new actor? Highly unlikely, IMO.
Could it be then, that they are about to write a standalone story that doesn't involve Blofeld and Spectre, and can be used with or without Craig?
Or perhaps P&W are only hired at this point, but will not start working until Craig decides whether he will return or not? This also sounds unlikely to me.
There are many possibilities, who knows what we'll get in the end.
You're echoing my questions/concerns.
great point, they must just be writing the general action set pieces and villain plot
Well let's see
Diamonds are forever- not great
A View to a kill- okay
Die another day- shit
So....
SPECTRE- kinda okay or maybe shit( if it's his last one)
Bond 25- with Craig- shit( if he decides to do another one)
Baz is a clickbait drama queen. His tweets are written to made mountains of molehills. That's all entertainment journalism is these days anyway.
Okay. I'm not sure about his status today, but he has broken news on Bond in the past. People seem to be taking him at his word and he does seem to be a more reliable source than most. Just stating what he said as it's the closest thing to true news anyone has heard on B25 apart from a German helicopter.
But seriously, hasn't Baz had a pretty solid batting average on breaking Bond news?
CR hasn't aged at all for me - I rewatch it frequently, however just comparing the looks of the movies, QoS and SF are more beautiful than CR. But the story, the intensity of CR hasn't been beaten by anything since 2006.
If I were Craig I would not do another Bond movie if there's an incomplete (QoS) or problematic (Spectre) script to make sure the last film I do in the franchise (and B25 WILL be his last one if he does it at all) is a true winner. So I understand he's undecided.
Very true.
I know Dan is also meeting with the NY branch of Brunello Cucinelli soon, one of his main Bond clothiers. Hopefully get we some shots of that meet-up too, to see him sport what could be possible future Bond suits.
A clown "suit" perhaps?