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The Dalton Bond still belongs to the same timeline as the Connery/Laz/Moore era, and I think most people will think this too. Having the same supporting actors involved only strengthens this further. TLD also comes 2 years after AVTAK, and not 6 years later like GE did after LTK.
It also helps having all the same production values attached to that same timeline (Barry/Binder/Maibaum, etc.)
GE is a new era, a complete reboot, a different M, a huge gap between LTK and GE, different production team, and a very different time.
For me the definitive Leiter has to be the one from LALD and LTK.
And as far as Dalton being the same Bond as Moore's, So we have a Bond who's pushing 60 in one film, then 2 years later we have a vigorous, early/mid forties Bond taking part in a training exercise and it's far fetched to see this as a new beginning? I think not.
In TLD we see a Bond who is getting fed up and bitter with his career, so it seems like a continuation in character, even though the actor playing Bond is visibly younger.
Not that much different between YOLT and OHMSS, or even DAF to LALD (even though Moore and Connery are similar age, Moore looks visibly younger).
SF is more confusing because this seems more like a washed-up Bond at the end of his career, yet he was only starting it 2 films earlier.
Let's talk about making movies for "general" audiences
They made a film called deadpool, they wernt that many deadpool fans but through marketing and the spread of the good word that film grossed a Shit ton of money, they made it from the source material as opposed to pg13ing it for the general audience and in the process pissing off the fans. That tells us something, the general audience will adapt to what the die hard fans enjoy
Please move the discussion over to there.
Agreed also it's obvious, Same bond from dr no to dad then it's a reboot - completely different world for CR and following. The continuity and world was never meant to be taken seriously otherwise the producers wouldn't have replaced Felix every movie with a different actor, it's only now days that people question these kind of irrelevant things. Also does anybody actually unironically believe in the code name theory
Agreed. Great post!
I hope it's not a direct sequel.
Blockbusters "rebooting" more or less started with Batman Begins. This concept, while widespread now, wasn't in the minds of the filmmakers in the '60s-'90s Bonds. I think the young'uns around here don't understand that...
Particularly when the studio involved spent part of 2016 in negotiations to sell to a Chinese buyer.
If I am not completely mistaken, Leiter tells Della in LTK, that Bond has been married, probably to Tracy.
Della asks if she said something wrong (after seeing Bond's reaction), and Felix says `he was married once, but that was a long time ago.'
Obviously it refers to Tracy in OHMSS. This would be the last time his marriage to her would be referenced in the Bond films. In Brosnan's era there is no reference to her at all.
Elektra:
"Have you ever lost a loved one, Mr. Bond?"
Bond awkwardly dodges the question.
Bond:
"M sent me here because she thinks your life might be in danger."
Not as direct as the LTK reference or Triple X in TSWLM, but you know what the inference is.
Wouldn't that be Paris Carver?
Well that sucks.