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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    A while back I proposed a scenario where we see Bond on a mission; he's gaining entry into a heavily fortified facility. At the end of the sequence he makes his way down a hall to a steel door he enters a code; the door opens and tersely says (in my best Craig voice) "Get up" a figure stirs in darkness. "Let's go, now"! A smiling figure steps forward, it's Blofeld.

    Now what is the motivation behind this? I haven't thought that out. But the grin on Bloefeld's face tells us that he has masterminded this and has for some reason manipulated Bond into being the device to gaining his freedom.

    24 Season 7, been there done that.

    Everything at some time has been done.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I know ; I once posed the question ' is it possible to come up with a story
    line that can't be compared to something that's been done before, either in a Bond film or elsewhere'
  • tanaka123tanaka123
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I've never seen a single episode of 24 so I guess was a pretty good idea. Thanks for confirming that :D

    No, it's terrible, sorry.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    That interview with Mendes posted a few pages back demonstrates the shallowness of his thinking and general dearth of ideas IMO. He doesn't come out of it very well. From my perspective he just doesn't really seem to 'get' Bond.

    Anyway, one thing I agree with him on is that the PTS in SP is immeasurably better than the plodding intro to SF. He clearly wanted to make amends and I think he was successful. One of the best PTS in the series IMO. I like the way he talks about not needing to spell everything out during those first few minutes as we know it's Bond and we can just go with the flow. That much at least he gets right.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    I've never seen a single episode of 24 so I guess was a pretty good idea. Thanks for confirming that :D

    No, it's terrible, sorry.

    Lol, thank you for your OPINION.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    Getafix wrote: »
    That interview with Mendes posted a few pages back demonstrates the shallowness of his thinking and general dearth of ideas IMO. He doesn't come out of it very well. From my perspective he just doesn't really seem to 'get' Bond.
    I thought that was obvious from SF and SP.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    When it comes to BOND 25, any idea involving Blofeld is automatically terrible. The reintroduction of Blofeld was a failure. Bond 25 can NOT be a success with Blofeld back.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    The PTS of both is great. And the SF PTS is the most CR/QOS esque of the mendes films.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Very much doubt Sciarra will be in Bond 25? I do think the Blofeld story will continue, and possibly Bond's memory of him going as the film develops? But Wright as Felix with Craig's Bond on a JOINT mission would be a brilliant swan song for Craig with his most loyal CIA buddy! Perfect!!! :D :-bd
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    While I'm not as enamored with Wright's Leiter as most—he's an okay character played by a great actor who thus far has been given very little to do and who is nothing at all like Fleming's Felix—I am nevertheless excited by the prospect of Bond and Leiter teaming on a mission. That goes for Wright's Leiter or any other Leiter in the future. I'd just like to see Leiter in combat at some point.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/daniel-craig-one-more-james-bond-movie-2017-4
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Bounine wrote: »
    Is the general audience tired of world domination plots and generally unrealistic ones? Do they want a Bond film that's very realistic? They were unrealistic in the sixties too. The Bond films and books have always been somewhat of a fairytale but what revolved around the outrageous villainous plot was generally quite realistic or at least in the books and earlier films. Casino Royale was popular with general audiences as was Skyfall. If the audience is ready to suspend their disbelief with ridiculous scenes like Bond ripping the back off a train where the conductor doesnt even bother stopping it afterwards or a plot where Bond has to stop Le Chiffre from winning back the money in a game of poker, then I would think that they wouldn't mind an outrageous villainous plot as long as the general story in the movie is a good one. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems to me that Purvis and Wade are thinking too much or possibly just making up excuses from not having any decent ideas. Maybe their line of thinking is just wrong.

    P&W's point is that it's hard to come up with an over-the-top caricature when Trump is already that.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    While I'm not as enamored with Wright's Leiter as most—he's an okay character played by a great actor who thus far has been given very little to do and who is nothing at all like Fleming's Felix—I am nevertheless excited by the prospect of Bond and Leiter teaming on a mission. That goes for Wright's Leiter or any other Leiter in the future. I'd just like to see Leiter in combat at some point.

    Well, we've never gotten Fleming's Leiter and Felix rarely has any purpose in any film beyond being a glorified stalker and/or slave for Bond. Wright's Leiter, at the very least, is written into films that make sense for him to be there, and some interesting things has been done with him, such as how QoS portrayed his struggle with morality. He feels there for a reason, while most of the other Leiter's don't. It only helps that he and Dan have good chemistry, and Wright can play him as a smooth, fast-talking kind of guy.

    I'd love to see he and Dan's Bond reunited to take up arms.
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
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    I still think Jack Lord remains the best Felix Lieter.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    I still think Jack Lord remains the best Felix Lieter.

    Not to me but fair play to you.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    When it comes to BOND 25, any idea involving Blofeld is automatically terrible. The reintroduction of Blofeld was a failure. Bond 25 can NOT be a success with Blofeld back.

    I think Blofeld is the worst Bond villain of all time.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited April 2017 Posts: 7,546
    http://www.tribute.ca/news/daniel-craig-ready-to-reprise-role-as-james-bond/2017/04/04/#.WOPcQGK7ZAA.facebook

    Same story as @QuantumOrganization above essentially.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Already posted gents.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited April 2017 Posts: 7,546
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    While I'm not as enamored with Wright's Leiter as most—he's an okay character played by a great actor who thus far has been given very little to do and who is nothing at all like Fleming's Felix...

    Tanner too.

    EDIT: Sorry for the double-post; not sure how to delete posts.

  • barryt007barryt007
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    dominicgreene wrote: »
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    When it comes to BOND 25, any idea involving Blofeld is automatically terrible. The reintroduction of Blofeld was a failure. Bond 25 can NOT be a success with Blofeld back.

    I think Blofeld is the worst Bond villain of all time.

    Unfortunately,i actually agree with that..apart from OHMSS he has been used terribly.

  • timmertimmer
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    These stories are all very speculative, citing "source" but still like many in this community, there has never been any doubt in my mind that DC was returning
    Wouldn't be at all surprised if Mendes is enticed back for one last go.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    Word is that he's in talks for some Manga film or something at Sony...
  • Matt007Matt007
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    I really really want them to Film the first 90 or so pages of moonraker. Blades, gambling, cheating... it's the most bondian bond scenario that Fleming wrote imo
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    I still think Jack Lord remains the best Felix Lieter.

    He had the look (basically an obvious American version/doppelganger of Bond), but I just like Wright for how he was acted AND used. No other Felixs meet those standards high enough, so I hope Bond 25 sees him back. The time is now.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, I agree. The time really is now. Wright has good chemistry with Craig; his Leiter is severely underused.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, I agree. The time really is now. Wright has good chemistry with Craig; his Leiter is severely underused.
    Agreed. A meatier role for Felix would be nice.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    If Bond 25 is Craig's swan song, then Wright should be in it. Remember 2006? I was superjazzed about Wright's Leiter at the poker table. He was good in QOS but shared so little screen time with Craig. And in SP he's mentioned but not shown; a missed opportunity? Either way, it's not too late to correct that. :)
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Wright is good but don't bring in Leiter just for the sake of it.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Leiter and Blofeld have both been treated like crap tbh.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote: »
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    While I'm not as enamored with Wright's Leiter as most—he's an okay character played by a great actor who thus far has been given very little to do and who is nothing at all like Fleming's Felix—I am nevertheless excited by the prospect of Bond and Leiter teaming on a mission. That goes for Wright's Leiter or any other Leiter in the future. I'd just like to see Leiter in combat at some point.

    Well, we've never gotten Fleming's Leiter and Felix rarely has any purpose in any film beyond being a glorified stalker and/or slave for Bond. Wright's Leiter, at the very least, is written into films that make sense for him to be there, and some interesting things has been done with him, such as how QoS portrayed his struggle with morality. He feels there for a reason, while most of the other Leiter's don't. It only helps that he and Dan have good chemistry, and Wright can play him as a smooth, fast-talking kind of guy.

    I'd love to see he and Dan's Bond reunited to take up arms.

    Oh I'm not claiming we've had a run of great Felixes. To the contrary Felix has been astoundingly mishandled onscreen since the series began. Nor do I think Leiter necessarily has to be an exact representation of Fleming's creation (though the alternative takes we've been presented haven't been up to much at all). Heddison remains my favorite, and by coincidence (perhaps, perhaps not) he does hew closest to book Leiter.

    I've enjoyed aspects of Wright's Leiter: the moment when he stops Bond as he's on his way to take down Le Chiffre, his brief interactions with Beam, warning Bond over drinks. But for the most part, across both CR and QOS, he's just been shown sitting somewhere and glowering. Sitting on a plane, sitting at the poker table, sitting in Beam's office. Glowering, glowering, glowering. Really not the best use of Leiter in my opinion. Wright's a talented actor. I especially dug him on Westworld. I'd love for the Bond films to do more with him.
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    While I'm not as enamored with Wright's Leiter as most—he's an okay character played by a great actor who thus far has been given very little to do and who is nothing at all like Fleming's Felix...

    Tanner too.

    EDIT: Sorry for the double-post; not sure how to delete posts.

    Yes, that description fits Kinnear's Tanner quite perfectly, too. Interestingly, both Tanner and especially Leiter are portrayed as being much "chummier" with Bond in the books. It would be interesting to see that played up a bit more in the films. Bond is a human being. He can enjoy himself a bit. He can have "industry" friends and enjoy a good laugh with them every once in a while.
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