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Yes, I agree with you and Germanlady.
Eon has finally captured lightning in a bottle for the first time since the '60s with Craig and I can see why they would try to be very accommodating to his schedule to get one more film.
Why roll the dice with a new actor instead of wooing a sure thing?
After that point, however, it feels right to close out what has been a startlingly satisfying era to me, with Bond 25 giving his landmark work with 007 one hell of a finish.
It just seems like the right time for him to do his swan song Bond film. Certain things have come about, developed and converged at once, giving out the signal that now is the time to take a bow.
Going off the ending of SP and the development they gave Bond in it, EON are well placed to give us one last ride with Dan, providing a conclusion with real weight that feels connected to the themes of endurance, identity and loss and more that've spanned the era.
Furthermore, Dan is at the perfect age to do one more before saluting and taking his exit. Any longer and the strain of the shoots and possible stunt injuries might be too much to risk. Where he's at now, it seems only right to have one last go before getting a deserving rest from it all.
He's just begun his life with Rachel, and after one more Bond outing, he'll be free to have all the time he wants to be with her and possibly start a family if he so wishes. Doing more post Bond 25 just wouldn't make sense, as the shoots would continue to weigh on them both and he knows he's not getting any younger.
After Bond 25 we'll also have a solid three films with the new Q, M and Moneypenny, after which EON can proceed how they wish. I foresee a recasting of most major roles, if not all, with a relative unknown in the role of Bond, and certainly not anyone being talked about now.
But that doesn't concern me right now. All I want to see is Dan's last ride, and watch him get one hell of a send off. That's all that matters. A number of factors are in play now, and they all point to Bond 25 being his sweet spot swan song.
Well said. This is something I've always said but Eon just don't seem to get it. They will go back to something grittier with greater character movement and a better script, that is less bombastic every now and then for just one film, then revert back to the usual shallow stuff.
As for Croatia, it could be a possible location (and being discussed now in a general way) but filming would mostly likely - surely - be quite a ways off still.
I thought I read that February 2016 was supposed to be around the time EON would know, but March is almost here and well, you know...
It certainly occurred to me that Eon probably see no harm in allowing it to brew a little. Deep down I'm sure Craig has made his decision, but letting it ride for a while maintains public and media interest, does it not?
Exactly how I think. His run would feel truncated without one more. There's something more psychologically satisfying with 5 films; puts him up there closer with the legends that are Connery and Moore (6 and 7 films respectively). 24 films with 6 actors means the average Bond actor has done 4 films. Craig is not average, he deserves a finale fitting his era. SP doesn't feel that way, regardless of what people say. He just met Blofeld! Craig can't stop now. And like you said about the supporting cast, they need more time together to really feel like it's a solid grouping/series. This rebooted timeline needs to be filled in more to feel right.
Yeah I'm quite surprised by how much Bond is still in the media post-release of a Bond film, excepting the recent home video release of Spectre.
Yes, it's more suspenseful than watching Spectre :)
Neal Purvis Robert Wade and Jez Butterworth.
though I have noticed something when Purvis and Wade are given a fleming novel to work off of they usually devlope something really good (Casino Royale and Die another day and I will explain why I am putting Die Another day here in a moment) but when left to their own devices we get Skyfall which is just ok.. perhaps if Purvis Wade and Butterworth are really going to use You Only Live twice and the end of OHmss we could get an amazing script again.
Why did I put Brosnan's piece of garbage film next to Casino Royale and say it's good I don't know the process of script to film and I am not claiming I do but what I do know is the Tamhori changed the ending to this massive CGI spectacle (as it was confirmed by everyone involved in the production) the original ending to Die another day (or bond 20 as it was known) was ripped from the pages of Moonraker in fact a lot of the film is also ripped from the book (including one line of dialogue that everyone misses the whole speech Graves gives about Icarus is word for word the same as Drax's speech for Moonraker even the inflection of the voice and press being puzzled all of it literally taken from Moonraker)
So for me I just want to know three things (because I am assuming a 2018 release date and as you can see there is PLNETY to talk about)
1. Is Craig returning? personally I don't care who directs the film (as long as it's not mendes) so long as Craig comes back there has to be another director Craig loved working with and is friend with and would want to direct 007 the man must have other friends besides Sam mendes right? Germanlady I am looking at you who are Daniel's director friends besides Mendes?
2. Who is the second studio for finacing? this is less interesting to me as I know no matter who it is they won't have control over 007 every studio even Disney knows that Eon have been doing this since 1962 they have it down to a science and that the production company should back off the only reason why I am interested slightly and Hoping fro WB is because that MIGHT mean Wb Montreal (makers of the underated Arkham Origins) could do the next 007 game and I would be All for that.
3. who is writing the film? this will give us a sense of potential tone and give us something to debate like for argument sake if it is
David Goyer Jonthan Nolan and Chris Mcquarrie we would debate and discuss Batman films and the recent mission impossible movie as for the tone of Bond 25... if it is Purvis Wade and Butterworth I am ok with that provided the script be based on you only live twice (which I think they would do) but of course then I get 6-12 months of having to defend the writers with Come on Casino Royale was great and Tamhori had so much influence on Die another day and Quantum of solace is a good film but was really written by Paul Haggis etc
As it stand now I believe Michael G Wilson Gregg Wilson Barbara Brocolli and Jez butterworth are throwing ideas around but this is just a wild guess based on eon rarely fires screen writers and usually they walk way on their own or are too busy with other project (like Richard Mailbaum who penned god how many films from Dr no-Licence to kill)
of course this will keep me satisfied till julyish when I will want to know more about the project and indeed I suspect that from may -july we will have director rumors until the Director and release date (November 2018 is my guess.. though I think Criag could be the first bond to do well in summer since Dalton I would argue a summer 2018 release would be fine) are announced in July
then of course there will be casting rumors location rumors and I am hoping title rumors we got nearly none in the lead up to spectre except for one april fools day prank. I mean come on Sun Claiming the next bond film was Risico was almost an annual event with you guys what happened I mean if you do it with every bond film eventually you will be right.
just my two cents.
But thats a list everybody could have put on, s sorry Risico :)
I'm still rooting for Alfonso Cuaron!
I'm disappointed some fans want rid of Craig, He has been a phenomenal Bond, and really hope he does at least one more. The thought of going into all the palava of hiring a new actor, and wondering whether he would be great or a disaster, I don't relish that thought. Lets stick with someone we know is still a great 007. But of course, it could all be true, and he's really done with the part!
A sensible answer.
(Sure wish I could post a pic of Klebb.)
I believe Craig is genuinely undecided. A part of him may feel he's (to quote Mark Strong) mined the role, but if the script for Bond 25 is strong and provides Craig with something to get his teeth into, I think he may well indeed play Bond one last time.
I really hope so, because I think there's a lot of potential with a final clash between Bond and Blofeld - and it'd be great to see the same actors in the roles rather than a new Bond and yet another new Blofeld.
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Watched Spectre for the 3rd time now (it has improved since I saw it first in the theatre). The ending is very interesting. On the one hand we see Bond drive off into the sunset with Swann, but then there was that look that Blofeld gave Bond on Westminster Bridge: a look of pure hatred. Bond has left him disfigured and severely pissed off. He has unfinished with business with Bond and I think Bond will live to regret not killing him. Bond 25 could so easily start literally where Spectre ends and that makes me wonder if there is one final movie for Craig. Of course, he could be done and no-one's saying yet because they want to shift lots of DVD's / Blu Ray's for the next few months. I think by summer we should know for sure.
Hell yes. They need to give Johnny Depp a call...
The EU. Or general stupidity, which is much the same thing.
Just out of interest why wouldn't Spielberg be in the running?
I know it's a million to one shot but he always wanted to do one and he has worked with Dan and Ralph. If they could come up with a decent script and say you can have Blofeld, a world domination plan, Dan's final Bond. Just throw the kitchen sink at it Steven and make the Bond film you always wanted to make.
Never going to happen to be fair but there's no harm in dreaming is there?
If you offered me Cuaron now though I'd bite your hand off.