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Pretty shocking. Didn't even reiterate that the film is "in production"? That almost seems like going backwards. Maybe the distribution deal is holding things up more than we thought. I did think it was strange that we hadn't heard anything yet.
Wonderful when is the next conference call
http://variety.com/2017/film/news/mgm-earnings-decline-bond-movie-1202429427/
There better be something by then by the end of the summer
Although I'm sure they're not dragging their heels on it at any rate...
Hopefully we hear something soon.
Go to the front page we have had something to discuss once a month
Yes, what a bunch of poppycock. Someone needs to make a list of all the films that Bond has gone up against and survived. Titanic, for one.
And you'd be wrong. People have been talking about superhero fatigue since before 2012, they've been talking about Marvel failing from the very first Iron Man film. 10 years later from 2008, Marvel Studios is the biggest player in cinematic history and turned films that include a talking racoon and dancing tree into a $Billion franchise. They've got the next 4 years on complete lock down and have already mapped out plans and directions as to how they're going to change and switch things up post 2021; and that's key for longevity. EoN talk a good game about modernity and moving forward but they're clearly stuck in the past and don't know how to navigate themselves properly even there.
Someone mentioned how MS have years of material to use. Funnily enough, the films tell original stories, using a very small amount from the comics. Where they shine is capturing and conveying the essence of who the characters are which they then transplant into any story or situation. This is where WB/DC have failed and to a certain extent where and why EoN have failed as of late. Bond has more than enough material to adapt but they're just wasting the resources readily available to them.
I said it before and I'll say it again, Kevin Feige is one man that oversees and produces the development of multiple movies of seperate franchises simultaneously where 2 to 3 films are released every year and that's amongst comic book films released by other studios. Comparatively EoN are OGs in this business and the films they do end up releasing are largely mediocre at best. Post GE there's been an incredible and worrisome amount of mismanagement and dereliction of duty on EoN's part. Extenuating circumstances not withstanding there's a reason and it's no surprise we've only had 4 Bond films in what will undoubtedly be 12 years at least.
EoN don't need to concern themselves with connective universes and abstract long term planning. They need to focus on good representation of the Bond characters and treat the films on a case by case basis where the focus is on top quality and an excellently well executed film. If the films are lacklustre and uneventful disappointments then people aren't really going to give a shit. It'll end up being just another Bond movie that instead of conjuring the excitement and mania it deserves it ends up inviting stupid articles about how Bond should either be a woman, not played by a white guy or shelved completely.
With the time EoN do have for the Bond films, they really need to start making it count and think just ahead enough to know the general gist of whatever the era they're in needs to be like, stick with it and ensure the installment they're working on is a real fire cracker.
Both he and EON manage big, long-term franchises that seek to build on a literary source, and to draw in popcorn/blockbuster fans as well as to service the picky super-fans. Both have to contend with balancing the formula and the elements that people expect with keeping things fresh after dozens of films. Both are trying to make essentially action/adventure movies (tipped to SciFi for Marvel and to espionage for EON) that are both timeless and contemporary.
In these and other ways, I think you definitely compare EON and Feige.
And at least on that front, he compares pretty favorably. He's juggling far more balls than EON, and although Marvel's had their missteps, he's pretty consistently managed to churn out good product and get bums in seats.
Agree. Well said.
And yes, EON does need short and long term plans. Not concrete long term plans that are intractable, but plans that allow for a things like: a quality, completed script and film to follow up CR; a plan that doesn't allow an auteur to make statements on middle age, projecting Bond into the future after just rebooting him; rolling out Spectre in an interesting and suspenseful way and not retconing it in lame fashion.
It's similar to SW, but not Bond. The actual number of staff at EON is minimal next to Marvel and likewise over at Disney. EON is an independent production company, essentially still a family run business, where Marvel is a fully functioning studio in its own right. They may be comparable in the sense that they are attempting to produce large-scale popcorn fare, but make no mistake EON are, by comparison, a tiny outfit working in a completely different fashion.
Feige has done a sterling job, no doubt, but his remit is very different. Like Kathleen Kennedy, it's about expanding a universe, pulling on characters and talent from untapped areas, packaging it and selling it to the broadest possible audience through a multitude of ancillary channels. Bond is old fashioned in the sense it is about getting a crew together every few years and making a movie. That movie lives or dies and they move on, re calibrate if necessary and go again. I know many think this new model is the only way to do 'franchise', these days, but I don't. The EON model is fine, they just need to show a little more savvy in the way they treat and engage fans - something they've never really been that great at.
Yep.
Eon is a family firm still. May be they need to accept that it's time to professionalise and bring in a professional management team. With The Brocollis and Wilsons as slightly more hands off owners. Hand over long term planning and producing to someone else.
This is where Annapurna would be great as a production partner as opposed to just a distribution one.
I doubt Nolan would want to produce the franchise long-term. Unless of course he directs all of them :D
That's exactly as I thought. These deals last a decade or more sometimes, and the relationship with Sony could be a bit brittle at times, from what we are privy to. I'm guessing they want to test the waters before jumping into bed again. It's a good move, if you ask me.