No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    So there may be two James Bonds in the next film?

    Why are we even discussing these absurd claims again?
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
    Posts: 3,126
    Says he's heard Craig is coming back potentially for two films.]IMG_7877.png

    I don't buy it
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    I can see how a 'universe' can potentially make the Bond franchise more appealing to a major studio distributor. The $$ on the table could be significantly 'upped' if there was some spillover opportunity in between the release of the big films.

    The fact that a Jinx and Wai Lin spinoff were considered at one time is a troubling reminder that EON have contemplated this in the past. Perhaps that is what someone has in mind with 'universe'.

    With heroines all the rage these days (Rogue One, WW, Hunger Games, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, Lara Croft, Atomic Blonde etc. etc.), this could be the angle, and not Scooby.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,960
    Do a Green Four spinoff and you have my money. Nobody's lining up for an M spinoff, and I'll start believing this guy's "scoops" as soon as I start believing the "007 codename" theory, which he seems to think is fact.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,509
    ugh... as some people have said on this site many times: EoN used to be trend setters, not trend followers.

    I suppose in this crowded IP universe, they're looking to maximize their relevancy...
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Hell, as things stand now, I'd rather see a cross-over with the Mission Impossible franchise than a "Bond Universe. Of course I say that tongue planted firmly in cheek. The truth is I just want a great James Bond movie; the "universe" idea, if true, smells of desperation, as if they're lost and are grasping for a direction.
  • bondjames wrote: »
    The fact that a Jinx and Wai Lin spinoff were considered at one time is a troubling reminder that EON have contemplated this in the past. Perhaps that is what someone has in mind with 'universe'.

    With heroines all the rage these days (Rogue One, WW, Hunger Games, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, Lara Croft etc. etc.), this could be the angle, and not Scooby.

    Or both: Moneypenny. Black female lead. Character with a history in the field (the PTS of Skyfall gave us a taste of that already). Actress renowned enough to carry her own films. And she doesn't even really get to be Moneypenny in the new Bond films anyway, since Tanner walks around as M's personal secretary.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    The fact that a Jinx and Wai Lin spinoff were considered at one time is a troubling reminder that EON have contemplated this in the past. Perhaps that is what someone has in mind with 'universe'.

    With heroines all the rage these days (Rogue One, WW, Hunger Games, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, Lara Croft etc. etc.), this could be the angle, and not Scooby.

    Or both: Moneypenny. Black female lead. Character with a history in the field (the PTS of Skyfall gave us a taste of that already). Actress renowned enough to carry her own films. And she doesn't even really get to be Moneypenny in the new Bond films anyway, since Tanner walks around as M's personal secretary.
    The PC crowd will love this. Give them a sexy heroine (TBA in B25) for a future spinoff as well and they'll be off EON's backs.

    I can just see it now. An 'MI6 Universe' to rival the Dark Universe, Marvel, DC & SW ones anchored by James Bond.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    They will never be satiated. They have nothing to gain from backing off.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hell, as things stand now, I'd rather see a cross-over with the Mission Impossible franchise than a "Bond Universe.
    I'd be all for that too! Ilsa Faust meets James Bond.

    I'd definitely go see an Ilsa Faust standalone film. Several times!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    bondjames wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Hell, as things stand now, I'd rather see a cross-over with the Mission Impossible franchise than a "Bond Universe.
    I'd be all for that too! Ilsa Faust meets James Bond.

    I'd definitely go see an Ilsa Faust standalone film. Several times!

    Oh Yes!

  • Posts: 787
    Hmm. Well, I've said before that I'm not opposed to expanding the 'universe' a bit. Mostly because I'm a greedy fan who wants more content.

    But I think there are some real caveats to doing this. For instance, I think Q or Moneypenny are really your only options. Leiter's just not closely associated enough to Bond in the general public's mind, so it wouldn't really mean anything except 'generic spy/action thriller.'

    I also think the small screen might be a better bet: Marvel made some cool Shorts that were spin-offs of its characters, including Agent Carter. Something like an 8-episode, Sherlock-esque Moneypenny Diaries on HBO could be great fun.

    You'd also want a vehicle worth of Moneypenny and Q's (considerable) acting chops. No mean feat, that.

    All told, I'd cautiously welcome it. (Though I think that tweet is complete tosh.)
  • RC7RC7
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    This isn't true. Next.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    RC7 wrote: »
    This isn't true. Next.
    Yep.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I don't necessarily buy the idea, but the waters may be being tested.

    With a mix of old and new.

    felix.jpg?resize=1375%2C683BondMoneyPenny-Cov-Lotay.jpg

    Yes, this might be what that tweet is alluding to.

    Casino Royale comes out in October and from the looks of the cover, it is going to be awesome.

    http://eyeonbond.com/2017/06/23/dynamite-comics-casino-royale-due-in-october/
  • Posts: 12,837
    Not buying this for a second but I'm not that opposed to the idea of the odd spinoff as long as it's a character who's worth it and they don't overdo it. I'd actually have been very interested in seeing how the Jinx spinoff turned out since some of the ideas apparently found their way into CR.

    I'm not keen on the idea of Q, Moneypenny spin offs. But I'd be up for say, a crime thriller showing Blofeld's rise to power. Or even a Felix spinoff that was more of a proper spy thriller than an action film. As long as the story feels worth it, I think it could be cool seeing these characters doing their own thing away from Bond.

    Scaramanga definitely should have had a prequel spinoff. It's a crime that Christopher Lee only got that one, terrible film in the role.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited June 2017 Posts: 9,117
    peter wrote: »
    Imagine spending at least a hundred minutes with Tanner, with a cameo from Bond... now THAT's entertainment!

    One second with Tanner feels like a year so 100 minutes would feel like several ice ages. In fact that's the reason recent Bond films have seemingly had such long running times. In reality they still clock in at 2 hours on paper as usual but watching Rory bumble about in the background or spouting moribund exposition is like travelling through a wormhole and you are bemused when you emerge from the cinema 2.5 hours later. It's called the Rory paradox. His wife was born in the 70s but to look at her you'd reckon she's about 96. Have Universal cast The Invisible Man yet for their Dark Universe. Rory would be perfect and you save a load on effects because he's totally unnoticeable when he walks in a room.

    If a Tanner spinoff ever came to pass that would be the day I go to EON HQ wearing a suicide vest.

    I'd love to say this is all clearly bullshit but remember this is the company that nearly made Tanner the traitor in SP, would've made M the traitor if Fiennes hadn't put his foot down and actuallly did sign off on stepbrothergate. My faith in EON is currently at its lowest ebb since DAD.

    As others have said an MP spinoff with Harris gives them what everyone wants - a black lead in a 'Bond' film (but without going the whole hog and casting a black Bond which would still be too controversial for play it safe EON). Could have a cameo from Dan and appearances from M and Q (and even Tanner himself) to make people think they're almost getting a Bond film and don't forget that Jinx script that they were all so keen on is still gathering dust on a shelf somewhere. A bit of spit and polish from P&W and we could be in business on this one. It's far from impossible that this could happen I'm afraid people.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    peter wrote: »
    As soon as Sneider mentions, matter-of-factly, that James Bond is a code name, you pretty much know that he knows nothing about Bond.
    You do realize that he was clearly joking? You can believe what you want.

  • Posts: 16,149
    Considering how long it takes to get a new film off the ground the release timeline would probably be something like:


    Moneypenny spinoff in 2019
    Tanner spinoff in 2023

    Bond 25 in 2027


    Q origin story in 2031
    Scooby gang all together a'la Avengers in 2035


    Bond 26 in 2038

    an origin story of Judi's M character in 2041
    with a hip young M

    and so forth and so forth

    I'd say let's just forget this nonsense and focus on Bond.
  • ToTheRight wrote: »
    Bond 26 in 2038

    There's a bone-chilling thought.
  • Posts: 16,149
    I picture the Tanner movie to simply be titled "Bill".
    The Scooby movie will have a more innovative title "MI6: Universal Exports" and
    it's sequel "MI7: Transworld Consortium".


  • ToTheRight wrote: »
    I picture the Tanner movie to simply be titled "Bill".

    "Bill Kills"...?
  • Posts: 16,149
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I picture the Tanner movie to simply be titled "Bill".

    "Bill Kills"...?

    Yes!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    All of this sounds so stupid. I guess IF EoN are dumb enough to go through with trying and inevitably failing to create a cinematic universe then it wouldn't surprise me to find out that Sony are the ones behind this and going to be handling distribution rights.

    In any case, this is all I'm saying on the matter until we actually get some real news confirmed.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    It won't happen. It's just cliche tabloid assumptions.
  • Murdock wrote: »
    It won't happen. It's just cliche tabloid assumptions.

    This. But I will say a Naomie Harris Moneypenny movie is hands down the most likely spinoff they might try. (And not that I would want that to happen, but if it did, I would probably be the only person here genuinely excited to see it—assuming it didn't interfere with the production of regular Bond films.)
  • Posts: 17,744
    Don't want to see a spinoff - ever. Just can't understand why they would want to water out the brilliance of the Bond films with movies of a secondary character.

    It's bad enough that Marvel and DC have to make a movie with every single character possible. It can't go on forever, really.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    I don't believe this rumor, but the thing is, EON has wanted spin-offs before with Jinx and Wei Lin, so it's not out of the realm of possibility. A scary thought.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Those didn't happen for a reason. They won't happen now.
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