No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • Technically speaking, here's how Purity shapes up vs. Bond 25

    DISTRIBUTOR
    Purity: Showtime
    Bond 25: To Be Determined

    WRITERS
    Purity: Todd Field and Jonathan Franzen
    Bond 25: No announcement, although Baz Bamigboye has reported Purvis and Wade are back.

    DIRECTOR:
    Purity: Todd Field
    Bond 25: To Be Determined.

    Now, do I think there's more activity going on at Bond 25? Yes. However, for those who say everything is a rumor that hasn't been officially announced, then there has been more "official" news about Purity than Bond 25.

    In 2014, Eon brought Purvis and Wade back to rewrite John Logan's draft. There was no anouncement (the source was again Bamigboye). The only "official" confirmation was deep, deep in the December 2014 press release that mentioned Logan, Purvis and Wade were writing after the July 2013 press release only mentioned Logan.

    As I said, things change. But this is how things shape up, today, July 21, 2017.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Though, despite more 'official' news about Purity than Bond 25, the latter is likely to be much closer to begin filming than the former.
  • edited July 2017 Posts: 2,115
    Though, despite more 'official' news about Purity than Bond 25, the latter is likely to be much closer to begin filming than the former.

    But, at this point, that's a matter of faith, not fact.

    Now, that would change if there's an announcement that Bond 25 actually begins production later this year for a fall 2018 release (or if it comes out that Purity has been canceled or delayed for two years or whatever). We'll see.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Though, despite more 'official' news about Purity than Bond 25, the latter is likely to be much closer to begin filming than the former.

    But, at this point, that's a matter of faith, not fact.

    Exactly.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Any year now.
  • RC7RC7
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    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Based on these posts...

    ColonelSun wrote: »
    I'm of the feeling Craig is, as rumoured, coming back for one more, and the director is set - a certain Scottish chap who has just worked for Eon on what I hear is a very fine film.
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    From what I hear from close associates, and big clues already dropped by Eon, the Bond 25 director is already locked - no doubt to be announced soon.
    Heard from a friend that an announcement is due the beginning of August for Craig's return and the distributor.

    http://i.imgur.com/18ObYVD.jpg


    ...EON will soon announce that Craig is back, and the director of Bond 25 is Paul McGuigan. I believe this is exactly what's going to happen.

    I can't comment on the director rumours as I haven't heard anything myself, personally. What I have heard and have been saying for months is that Craig is returning. I can also guarantee that development has been ongoing for some time, again, as I've previously stated. I'm aware of a writer who was contacted last year about scripting duties. Things often change, but nothing I've heard so far has made me think anything other than a Craig return. @ColonelSun is an industry vet so if he's also hearing similar murmurs through his channels I wouldn't bet against it. Things have been slow, but the intel (not clickbait) has largely been consistent thus far.

    Even if any of this was accurate, there's a big difference between what EON intends and what actually comes to pass. If you were working in the business circa 90/91 doubtless you would have been telling us "Yeah, don't worry guys, the murmurs are that Cubby and Dalton fully intend to move ahead with Bond 17, expect an announcement at the end of the year."

    Except I wouldn't be saying 'don't worry guys', because I have no agenda.

    That remains to be seen.

    What remains to be seen?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,715
    Though, despite more 'official' news about Purity than Bond 25, the latter is likely to be much closer to begin filming than the former.

    But, at this point, that's a matter of faith, not fact.

    All it takes is Craig to get tired of waiting on 'Purity', but still wanting to work on a project before Bond 25 (if it comes out late 2019), so he just has to sign on a non-Bond film and Purity will get delayed to 2020, which is likely since Craig will probably want a few months off before starting filming B25.
  • edited July 2017 Posts: 2,115
    Though, despite more 'official' news about Purity than Bond 25, the latter is likely to be much closer to begin filming than the former.

    But, at this point, that's a matter of faith, not fact.

    All it takes is Craig to get tired of waiting on 'Purity', but still wanting to work on a project before Bond 25 (if it comes out late 2019), so he just has to sign on a non-Bond film and Purity will get delayed to 2020, which is likely since Craig will probably want a few months off before starting filming B25.

    True -- if it happens. Again, this is faith, not fact.

    Essentially, this thread has had a lot of speculation about Purity (It's been delayed! It's been canceled!) because of its skimpy IMDB.com entry. You remember, IMDB.com? The same website that had Syncopy being involved with Bond 25 for a time.

    Put another way: Is Purity filming or going to film? I don't know. But I suspect nobody else commenting on this thread does either. But that hasn't stopped speculating about how they *want the world to be*.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,715
    Though, despite more 'official' news about Purity than Bond 25, the latter is likely to be much closer to begin filming than the former.

    But, at this point, that's a matter of faith, not fact.

    All it takes is Craig to get tired of waiting on 'Purity', but still wanting to work on a project before Bond 25 (if it comes out late 2019), so he just has to sign on a non-Bond film and Purity will get delayed to 2020, which is likely since Craig will probably want a few months off before starting filming B25.

    True -- if it happens. Again, this is faith, not fact.

    Essentially, this thread has had a lot of speculation about Purity (It's been delayed! It's been canceled!) because of its IMDB.com entry. You remember, IMDB.com? The same website that had Syncopy being involved with Bond 25 for a time.

    I hate to say this, but I highly doubt IMDB is wrong about 'Purity'. All the false information I've seen on IMDB are rumoured cast/crew members added to certain films when they aren't even considered for any roles. Never have I witness IMDB falsely claim that nobody is attached to a project.

    It has to be physically impossible for an entire cast to be signed without anyone knowing about it. You can't tell me the entire cast of Purity are all like Craig and they all refuse to be on social media so no information leaked. Based on the plot of Purity, there are likely going to be young actors involved. There would have been stuff posted online about them landing a role. As it stands there is not even a single evidence of anyone being approached for a role on Purity.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    We don't have casting news for Bond 25 either. Only the clickbait articles that we all said we were going to ignore until we saw official confirmation.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,715
    We don't have casting news for Bond 25 either. Only the clickbait articles that we all said we were going to ignore until we saw official confirmation.

    Can you please activate your brain for once? I'll say it in plain simple text one last time: The moment Craig is confirmed for Bond 25 and they set a filming schedule + a release date, you can kiss good bye to Purity happening before 2020 if they can't film it in time before Bond 25, which at this moment looks very difficult for them to achieve as the project is essentially dead-in-the-water since Craig was confirmed. Of course, assuming they confirm Craig for B25, and he gets tired of waiting for Purity so he decides to do another random film before making B25, which would mean Purity gets delayed by over 2 years instantly, unless Craig departs the project and they are free to make 'Purity' anytime without worrying about delaying it indefinitely to fit in his schedule.
  • edited July 2017 Posts: 2,115
    //It has to be physically impossible for an entire cast to be signed without anyone knowing about it.//

    I would agree. But that hasn't stopped anybody here from speculating that Eon has a crew, a cast, etc. and is all ready to go to get a Bond movie out in 2018.

    Purvis and Wade? They must have a complete script done! (Even though this fails the "nothing is official until Eon announces it" test.)

    A director? Nailed down.

    A distributor? Nailed down.

    To a degree, I'm exaggerating. But again people are posting *what they want to be* with the same certainty that the sun will rise in the East and set in the West.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,715
    //It has to be physically impossible for an entire cast to be signed without anyone knowing about it.//

    I would agree. But that hasn't stopped anybody here from speculating that Eon has a crew, a cast, etc. and is all ready to go to get a Bond movie out in 2018.

    Purvis and Wade? They must have a complete script done! (Even though this fails the "nothing is official until Eon announces it" test.)

    A director? Nailed down.

    A distributor? Nailed down.

    To a degree, I'm exaggerating. But again people are posting *what they want to be* with the same certainty that the sun will rise in the East and set in the West.

    You are right, but some pages ago a few members were talking as if Purity was going to start filming next month, if it hadn't started already, without a single actor attached to it. Which would be way more ridiculous than the stuff you pointed out in the post above. ;) For all lack of info on B25, we can at least speculate on Waltz, Fiennes, Seydoux, Whishaw returning. For Purity, there is zero evidence of a single day's work completed in the last 13 months.
  • //It has to be physically impossible for an entire cast to be signed without anyone knowing about it.//

    I would agree. But that hasn't stopped anybody here from speculating that Eon has a crew, a cast, etc. and is all ready to go to get a Bond movie out in 2018.

    Purvis and Wade? They must have a complete script done! (Even though this fails the "nothing is official until Eon announces it" test.)

    A director? Nailed down.

    A distributor? Nailed down.

    To a degree, I'm exaggerating. But again people are posting *what they want to be* with the same certainty that the sun will rise in the East and set in the West.

    You are right, but some pages ago a few members were talking as if Purity was going to start filming next month, if it hadn't started already, without a single actor attached to it. Which would be way more ridiculous than the stuff you pointed out in the post above. ;)

    True enough.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    We seem to be going in circles.

    Some insiders have suggested we're due for an announcement relatively soon about Craig's return and a director. I look forward to seeing if they're correct. I think we're going to know either way next month because Craig will lose it if he has to obfuscate when promoting Logan Lucky. I'd keep any sharp objects and glasses away from him on the interview circuit!
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Based on these posts...

    ColonelSun wrote: »
    I'm of the feeling Craig is, as rumoured, coming back for one more, and the director is set - a certain Scottish chap who has just worked for Eon on what I hear is a very fine film.
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    From what I hear from close associates, and big clues already dropped by Eon, the Bond 25 director is already locked - no doubt to be announced soon.
    Heard from a friend that an announcement is due the beginning of August for Craig's return and the distributor.

    http://i.imgur.com/18ObYVD.jpg


    ...EON will soon announce that Craig is back, and the director of Bond 25 is Paul McGuigan. I believe this is exactly what's going to happen.

    I can't comment on the director rumours as I haven't heard anything myself, personally. What I have heard and have been saying for months is that Craig is returning. I can also guarantee that development has been ongoing for some time, again, as I've previously stated. I'm aware of a writer who was contacted last year about scripting duties. Things often change, but nothing I've heard so far has made me think anything other than a Craig return. @ColonelSun is an industry vet so if he's also hearing similar murmurs through his channels I wouldn't bet against it. Things have been slow, but the intel (not clickbait) has largely been consistent thus far.

    Even if any of this was accurate, there's a big difference between what EON intends and what actually comes to pass. If you were working in the business circa 90/91 doubtless you would have been telling us "Yeah, don't worry guys, the murmurs are that Cubby and Dalton fully intend to move ahead with Bond 17, expect an announcement at the end of the year."

    Except I wouldn't be saying 'don't worry guys', because I have no agenda.

    That remains to be seen.

    What remains to be seen?

    Still waiting.
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
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    bondjames wrote: »
    We seem to be going in circles.

    Some insiders have suggested we're due for an announcement relatively soon about Craig's return and a director. I look forward to seeing if they're correct. I think we're going to know either way next month because Craig will lose it if he has to obfuscate when promoting Logan Lucky. I'd keep any sharp objects and glasses away from him on the interview circuit!

    Oh, my goodness. Yes! Lol!
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    We don't have casting news for Bond 25 either. Only the clickbait articles that we all said we were going to ignore until we saw official confirmation.
    I'm convinced this troll is actually Aiden Turner launching a web campaign to lobby support for his casting.

  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
    edited July 2017 Posts: 306
    We don't have casting news for Bond 25 either. Only the clickbait articles that we all said we were going to ignore until we saw official confirmation.
    I'm convinced this troll is actually Aiden Turner launching a web campaign to lobby support for his casting.

    So, I missed a lot of discussion for months, but I am a regular again.

    I only skimmed Aiden Turner's wiki page. What is the story with his mentions on here? Is he extra special? :p
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited July 2017 Posts: 1,756
    Colonel Sun, I remember, has not let us down. So I have some faith that he's correct.

    Also, if Craig is back, news around it must have gone round if they're in pre-pre-production on 25 at this stage. So Craig is most certainly back from the looks of it but I will remain cynical.
  • 001001
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    Daniel Craig non Bond films after Casino Royale.

    Munich (2005) Not bad
    The Invasion (2007) Rubbish
    The Golden Compass (2007) Rubbish
    Flashbacks of a Fool (2008) Rubbish
    Defiance (2008) Rubbish ?
    Cowboys & Aliens (2011) Rubbish
    Dream House (2011) Rubbish
    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011) Average ?

    Why do his films suck mostly ? His Acting ? Script ? Director?
  • Posts: 12,466
    001 wrote: »
    Daniel Craig non Bond films after Casino Royale.

    Munich (2005) Not bad
    The Invasion (2007) Rubbish
    The Golden Compass (2007) Rubbish
    Flashbacks of a Fool (2008) Rubbish
    Defiance (2008) Rubbish ?
    Cowboys & Aliens (2011) Rubbish
    Dream House (2011) Rubbish
    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011) Average ?

    Why do his films suck mostly ? His Acting ? Script ? Director?

    I have a hard time finding many films to enjoy from the Bond actors outside of their Bond films (Connery has the most IMO). Munich would have to be my favorite Craig films after his work on Bond; really solid effort from Spielberg with that one.
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    I enjoyed Cowboys and Aliens. It's about as rediculous as a film named that can be but Craig and Ford were great in it. I thought it was a fun flick.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Craig and Ford were great in it, making me wish it had been a straight western, minus the aliens
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Munich was before CR
    The Invasion was being filmed when he flew to London for the presser to be named Bond.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    I liked THE INVASION and I'm very familiar with the previous versions. The positive ending was unexpected and something to relish the way it was done. I actually didn't remember it was before CASINO ROYALE.
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    @001-of course it's DC. He is a bad, bad actor and every negative you ever wrote about him, is true. All those films would have been gold with any other actor. He destroys everything he touches. Its time he leaves the acting stage altogether. There - I am sure, you couldn't have said it any better. Oh wait - you already did say all that. Wanna be my bro in hate?
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    Sorry, you claim Purity is a non-existing project? How on earth have you concluded this? Based on what information? Or are you just guessing?

    Since you don't seem to pay attention: Purity has no actors attached, in talks, or rumoured to star in it. Purity is non-existent because production for the past year has not moved an inch. If Craig were to sign on to star in any other movie, it's good bye for Purity for god knows how long.[/quote]

    I certainly pay attention; the fact is many TV productions don't reveal cast and crew details until they are actually going into production, so just because Purity is under the radar, does not mean, as you claim, it is "non-existent". The same goes or Bond 25, just because Eon are keeping their cards close to their chest at present, doesn't mean a ton of work is not happening and things are not being locked down.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,715
    ColonelSun wrote: »

    Sorry, you claim Purity is a non-existing project? How on earth have you concluded this? Based on what information? Or are you just guessing?

    Since you don't seem to pay attention: Purity has no actors attached, in talks, or rumoured to star in it. Purity is non-existent because production for the past year has not moved an inch. If Craig were to sign on to star in any other movie, it's good bye for Purity for god knows how long.

    I certainly pay attention; the fact is many TV productions don't reveal cast and crew details until they are actually going into production, so just because Purity is under the radar, does not mean, as you claim, it is "non-existent". The same goes or Bond 25, just because Eon are keeping their cards close to their chest at present, doesn't mean a ton of work is not happening and things are not being locked down.[/quote]

    News flash: Purity won't be able to announce anything because they haven't approached, screen-tested or considered any actors in the past year since signing Craig. If any of that happened, there would be articles about actors being in talks for roles. Fact: there isn't any. There aren't even rumours of anyone being linked to Purity. And anyway - your argument, even if true, holds no water, because a project with only 1 actor officially confirmed means nothing in Hollywood, as it automatically gets delayed if another film (or even another TV show) featuring Craig gets into production.
  • Posts: 1,490
    ColonelSun wrote: »

    Sorry, you claim Purity is a non-existing project? How on earth have you concluded this? Based on what information? Or are you just guessing?

    Since you don't seem to pay attention: Purity has no actors attached, in talks, or rumoured to star in it. Purity is non-existent because production for the past year has not moved an inch. If Craig were to sign on to star in any other movie, it's good bye for Purity for god knows how long.

    I certainly pay attention; the fact is many TV productions don't reveal cast and crew details until they are actually going into production, so just because Purity is under the radar, does not mean, as you claim, it is "non-existent". The same goes or Bond 25, just because Eon are keeping their cards close to their chest at present, doesn't mean a ton of work is not happening and things are not being locked down.

    News flash: Purity won't be able to announce anything because they haven't approached, screen-tested or considered any actors in the past year since signing Craig. If any of that happened, there would be articles about actors being in talks for roles. Fact: there isn't any. There aren't even rumours of anyone being linked to Purity. And anyway - your argument, even if true, holds no water, because a project with only 1 actor officially confirmed means nothing in Hollywood, as it automatically gets delayed if another film (or even another TV show) featuring Craig gets into production.[/quote]

    As I say, just because there has been nothing in the media does not mean nothing is happening. Actors audition all the time, and the reason it is generally not made public (unless it's a media scoop for a major role like Bond) is because casting is a process which needs to be fluid, can take a long tim, and must be respectful to those who audition for a role and do not get the part. I am involved as a writer on a film project which has one lead role locked and announced on IMDb, other roles are being cast, but they are not being announced now and won't be until close to production. That's quite standard.
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