No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,713
    Again, that's not possible because there would be rumours of actors being approached or considered. People on social media would be talking about Purity, but there isn't even any activity on any social network concerning the TV show. Close to no-one outside of this forums has been talking about Purity. I managed to find less than 15 tweets in total about Purity in the past 8+ months, half of them being repost of the announcement of Craig's casting.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited July 2017 Posts: 8,392

    A project with only 1 actor officially confirmed means nothing in Hollywood, as it automatically gets delayed if another film (or even another TV show) featuring Craig gets into production.

    So you're saying Bond 25 will be delayed the moment Purity or any other TV or film featuring Craig gets into production? If they aren't planning to film Bond 25 for another year, anything that comes along in the next year, including Purity, will mean EON have to look for someone else for Bond 25.
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    Again, that's not possible because there would be rumours of actors being approached or considered. People on social media would be talking because not all of them are like Daniel Craig who doesn't do social media.

    Believe what you like, but a lack of rumours or speculation or information on social media does not mean nothing is happening. Producers and production companies can be very good at working under the radar or just quietly getting on with it, especially a new show which has yet to catch public or media interest. There are hundreds and hundreds of tv and film projects in development, some with serious talent involved, which have zero social media traffic at present.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,713

    A project with only 1 actor officially confirmed means nothing in Hollywood, as it automatically gets delayed if another film (or even another TV show) featuring Craig gets into production.

    So you're saying Bond 25 will be delayed the moment Purity or any other TV or film featuring Bond gets into production? If they aren't planning to film Bond 25 for another year, anything that comes along in the next year, including Purity, will mean EON have to look for someone else for Bond 25.

    Again, stop being delusional about your agenda to get Aidan Turner as Bond. What you are saying doesn't even make sense. If Bond 25 doesn't film in 2019, it means Craig will not take part of any production starting from the last few months of 2018 before B25's filming until early 2020 after B25 is released. If Purity doesn't happen before late 2018, it's good bye to that project. And with absolutely nothing happening on Purity, it's possible Craig is tired of waiting and signs on to another film to keep busy in the next year until B25, meaning Purity will be delayed for that project and for Bond 25.
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    A project with only 1 actor officially confirmed means nothing in Hollywood, as it automatically gets delayed if another film (or even another TV show) featuring Craig gets into production.

    So you're saying Bond 25 will be delayed the moment Purity or any other TV or film featuring Bond gets into production? If they aren't planning to film Bond 25 for another year, anything that comes along in the next year, including Purity, will mean EON have to look for someone else for Bond 25.

    Again, stop being delusional about your agenda to get Aidan Turner as Bond. What you are saying doesn't even make sense. If Bond 25 doesn't film in 2019, it means Craig will not take part of any production starting from the last few months of 2018 before B25's filming until early 2020 after B25 is released. If Purity doesn't happen before late 2018, it's good bye to that project. And with absolutely nothing happening on Purity, it's possible Craig is tired of waiting and signs on to another film to keep busy in the next year until B25, meaning Purity will be delayed for that project and for Bond 25.

    Again, you are making wild speculations based on -- on what? Certainly not any real understanding of how film and tv production actually works.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,713
    ColonelSun wrote: »

    A project with only 1 actor officially confirmed means nothing in Hollywood, as it automatically gets delayed if another film (or even another TV show) featuring Craig gets into production.

    So you're saying Bond 25 will be delayed the moment Purity or any other TV or film featuring Bond gets into production? If they aren't planning to film Bond 25 for another year, anything that comes along in the next year, including Purity, will mean EON have to look for someone else for Bond 25.

    Again, stop being delusional about your agenda to get Aidan Turner as Bond. What you are saying doesn't even make sense. If Bond 25 doesn't film in 2019, it means Craig will not take part of any production starting from the last few months of 2018 before B25's filming until early 2020 after B25 is released. If Purity doesn't happen before late 2018, it's good bye to that project. And with absolutely nothing happening on Purity, it's possible Craig is tired of waiting and signs on to another film to keep busy in the next year until B25, meaning Purity will be delayed for that project and for Bond 25.

    Again, you are making wild speculations based on -- on what? Certainly not any real understanding of how film and tv production actually works.

    'Right now Craig's Wolf is the only character cast, but expect more news soon considering shooting will begin in 2017. The twenty episodes will be split into two seasons of ten, beginning either late 2017 or early 2018.'

    So where is the casting announcement, since Purity has finished filming and will start airing in the next few months?
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    RC7 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Why not, right? He's demonstrating he still has the action chops with that trailer for 'The Foreigner.' Just for consistency's sake, get a new actor in for B25 and let Campbell shoot his third new era-introduction in a row.

    94 tickets, please.

    The only difference is I want him to close of Daniel's run. We've seen him start off 2 Bond. I'd like to see Campbell close off one he started.

    That would be so intriguing.

    A standalone adventure?

    Perhaps. But imagine if Campbell does a Bond vs Blofeld final round film. We could have a GoldenEye 2.0 on our hands. :D

    How about we deal on a Campbell and Arnold return to finish off the Craig era and then Nolan to introduce the new Bond?

    Think the majority of us would be happy enough with that.

    I don't think that's a deal I could take. :))

    I was kind enough not to mention Zimmer wasn't I? That's as good a deal as you can hope for I reckon.

    If Zimmer's not involved and the dialogue isn't exposition overload then we have a deal.

    I think Zimmer would do a brilliant Bond score. I asked him about it when I met him and he said 'it wouldn't sound like me'. (I've mentioned this before). I do think it depends on the director. His relationship with Nolan is a once in a generation partnership.

    The Guardian gave zimmer's Dunkirk score rave reviews. Said it was one of his best.

    It's bizarre to me that anyone couldn't be intrigued by the prospect of a Nolan-Zimmer Bond film. It seems like such an obvious fit. Have to say I'd be deeply disappointed if it never happened.

    Agree though that it would make a lot more sense for nolan to start a new era.
  • Posts: 11,425
    001 wrote: »
    Daniel Craig non Bond films after Casino Royale.

    Munich (2005) Not bad
    The Invasion (2007) Rubbish
    The Golden Compass (2007) Rubbish
    Flashbacks of a Fool (2008) Rubbish
    Defiance (2008) Rubbish ?
    Cowboys & Aliens (2011) Rubbish
    Dream House (2011) Rubbish
    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011) Average ?

    Why do his films suck mostly ? His Acting ? Script ? Director?

    You make a very good point. I've been saying the same for years.

    Craig is not the amazing actor he's made out to be. He's a very good Bond (not a great one IMO) and he has given the series a much needed injection of credibility. He will leave Bond in a much healthier state than he found it. He's laid to rest the doubts that existed after Dalton that Bond audiences could deal with a bit of darkness. He's open the way frankly for future writers and directors to push and tweak the envelope in interesting ways.

    But what his non bond films have shown is that he neither has the acting chops nor the audience appeal to be a big leading man actor after Bond. He will go back to ensemble and character parts, which he will probably be perfectly happy about.

    This does underline though that Bond is clearly the best gig that Craig will ever have and he should savour it. If I were him I'd be looking for a two picture deal right now.
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    He proved his acting Shops very recently in Othello. Belittling that is quite frankly ridiculous. If he has - as proven enough charisma and presence for Bond, it should be enough for any other role. He was let down by scripts and other factors. We have seen over and over that it's rarely the actors fault (a good actors fault, that is) when a film isn't doing great business. Otherwise every film of a good and famous actor would be a success. J Depp has received - again - this year a people's choice award. Still his films flop, because they are not to the publication taste. This goes for many of the best.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Great movies doesn't always mean they'll be successful, and vice versa. 'Lord of War' with Nicolas Cage was a massive under-performing movie, if not on the verge of being a box office bomb, yet that film is considered by many to be a very good film. And anyway, @Germanlady you shouldn't waste your time arguing with someone who calls 'Girl with the Dragon Tattoo' an 'average' film.
  • 001001
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    Getafix wrote: »
    001 wrote: »
    Daniel Craig non Bond films after Casino Royale.

    Munich (2005) Not bad
    The Invasion (2007) Rubbish
    The Golden Compass (2007) Rubbish
    Flashbacks of a Fool (2008) Rubbish
    Defiance (2008) Rubbish ?
    Cowboys & Aliens (2011) Rubbish
    Dream House (2011) Rubbish
    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011) Average ?

    Why do his films suck mostly ? His Acting ? Script ? Director?

    You make a very good point. I've been saying the same for years.

    Craig is not the amazing actor he's made out to be. He's a very good Bond (not a great one IMO) and he has given the series a much needed injection of credibility. He will leave Bond in a much healthier state than he found it. He's laid to rest the doubts that existed after Dalton that Bond audiences could deal with a bit of darkness. He's open the way frankly for future writers and directors to push and tweak the envelope in interesting ways.

    But what his non bond films have shown is that he neither has the acting chops nor the audience appeal to be a big leading man actor after Bond. He will go back to ensemble and character parts, which he will probably be perfectly happy about.

    This does underline though that Bond is clearly the best gig that Craig will ever have and he should savour it. If I were him I'd be looking for a two picture deal right now.

    I agree with you about:

    DC not being the amazing actor he's made out to be.
    He's a very good Bond (not a great one IMO)

    But some people on this forum demand another DC bond film for some reason.

    Even it seems Babs especially.
    She seems obsessed with him.
  • BondAficionadoBondAficionado Former IMDBer
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    So the "industry insiders" on this forum seem to all agree that we'll get news in early August (1st-15th) about the new director*?? Or am I missing something?

    In any case, I'll only believe it when I hear it from MGM/Eon.

    *McGuigan
  • edited July 2017 Posts: 1,661
    The Ross King news may not be accurate. If August comes and goes with no news - don't be surprised! If Purity is still going to happen - who knows! - then it might delay Bond 25 with Craig returning (assuming he does). And there's the new distribution deal to be sorted out.
    Right now Craig's Wolf is the only character cast, but expect more news soon considering shooting will begin in 2017. The twenty episodes will be split into two seasons of ten, beginning either late 2017 or early 2018.'

    I think EON will not what Craig doing a fifth Bond film and a major tv show around the same time. I'm betting if Craig does return to Bond he won't do Purity.

    Regarding Craig's non-Bond film roles - I liked him in Tintin!





  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    fanbond123 wrote: »
    I think EON will not what Craig doing a fifth Bond film and a major tv show around the same time. I'm betting if Craig does return to Bond he won't do Purity.

    Regarding Craig's non-Bond film roles - I liked him in Tintin!
    Yes, you've hit the nail on the head. I can't see EON wanting Craig making a name for and overexposing himself in an 'inferior medium' (yes, I realize it's come a long way) while he is the incumbent Bond.

    I presume he signed up for it while he was still dithering. Now that he has (apparently) agreed to come back (money talks), Purity is indefinitely on hold.

    In terms of his non-Bond performances since becoming Bond, I like him in Tintin , TGWTDT and Star Wars-TFA. He wasn't bad in Munich either. I haven't seen Defiance but he seemed decent in the trailers, even if outshone by the super charismatic Liev Schreiber.

    The rest were absolute rubbish imho (I turned off Dream House half way and tried to get my money back from the rental store claiming I rented it in error). Invasion was filmed before CR but released afterwards, as I recall.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,713
    @bondjames Have you ever seen Layer Cake? I'm trying to remember if you ever did a review of it on the 'Last Movie you Watched' thread.

    EDIT: Oops, you mean Craig's films he did post-CR. My bad.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Yes, I've seen it @DaltonCraig007. When Craig was announced (actually I think it was when he was rumoured), I thought EON had completely gone bonkers and so I hastily sought out the film to see what the attraction was. He didn't entirely convince me but I could see that he had a raw male energy to him that Brosnan unfortunately lacked, and so could see where they were going. It was an excellent performance, but it was a couple of years before CR. I was more referring above to what he has done since he became Bond, where his record has been quite spotty in comparison to his contemporaries. Hopefully Logan Lucky corrects that.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,713
    I had the exact same reaction, @bondjames. I had never heard of Craig prior to his official announcement. Given he was confirmed on a Friday, and I was still in middle school, I bought Layer Cake on DVD the very next day, sat down and watched it as soon as I got home. It was then I told myself he might do a pretty damn good job as Bond, and Layer Cake became (and still is) one of my all time favorites.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    @DaltonCraig007, while I really liked him in the film, I knew then that there would always be some limitations with him. Height of course, and refined class/style also, which I'm quite particular about and which he never convinces me of. My concerns have been warranted (at least in my mind) over the course of his tenure. He will never be as naturally magnetically smooth as Connery or Moore to me, but his screen machismo as Bond is undeniable.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I read the original script to DREAM HOUSE and quite liked it; much was changed from the sold draft to the shooting draft (a major physical transformation in the protagonist), and so it's no wonder Jim Sheridan wanted his name off of the film.

    It sounds like the lead actors and director signed for one film, but when they got on set, another film was waiting for them to shoot. Producer interference, and all of that.

    It's hard to blame Craig, or any actor for that matter, when they are in shit films. The script they read, might be vastly different than the final shooting draft.

    I remember reading an amazing spec script called THE LAST FIRST KISS and loving it. That script was made into the film HITCH, which was a generic rom-com (and one I despised).

    Much can happen between when an actor signs onto a project and first day of principal.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    @peter, it's been my experience that actors should avoid films co-starring spouses or girlfriends. Doesn't seem to work out normally.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    I agree, but if I'm not mistaken, I think the romance started on set (they filmed a lot of it in a small town outside the GTA during winter; with a terrible production @bondjames , and nothing to do... I guess things happened)...

    I also seem to remember Rachel was still with Arononsky (sp?), and Daniel was with a producer gf...

    In the end, the shooting script was far different from the script I had the pleasure to read.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Name a Bond with a stellar CV outside the role?

    Only Sean can lay the slightest claim with the likes of The Hill, The Offence, The Man Who Would Be King, The Name of The Rose, The Untouchables, Indy 3.

    Laz - A few chop socky films and Emanuelle.

    Rog - Whilst I love North Sea Hijack and Wild Geese you could hardly claim them to be 'great'. Other than that it's Spiceworld.

    Dalts - Well respected in the theatre to be sure but in terms of big films? Flash Gordon, The Rocketeer and the massively overrated Hot Fuzz (and never leading man in any of those).

    Brozza - The Tailor of Panama and The Thomas Crown Affair are both decent but nothing spectacular.

    Who gives the slightest toss whether an actor's films outside the role are a success or not as long as he delivers when he is playing Bond?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited July 2017 Posts: 4,583
    barryt007 wrote: »
    'Man From UNCLE' made $109 million World Wide. Those numbers for Bond would be the end of franchise within 2 films.

    You just beat me to it,thats what I was about to say about that film.

    I didn't mentioned Man from UNCLE because of its BO numbers. If you saw the film, you knew how good it was and how much the Cold War era lends itself to the genre. And vice-versa.

    If we want to discuss Box Office and period action films, based on a franchise, I suggest you look no further than Wonder Woman. If you think Bond wouldn't be successful if set in the past, think again.
    Seen as he's actually confirmed for Purity as of now, and unconfirmed for Bond 25, I don't see why he would back out of Purity for Bond 25. Obviously he has an interest in this project, and has been exploring acting outside of Bond. It doesn't make sense why he would back out of Purity to get back on the treadmill for EON.

    I don't think the shoot for Purity will be all that extensive.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,713
    So you compare the only Wonder Woman solo movie ever made as proof that a period Bond film would work? By that argument, would a Fast & Furious movie cross a billion dollars if they suddenly removed all car chases/stunts in the next outing? Would Star Wars Episode 9 cross a billion dollars if they suddenly spent the entire film in a single location, without any sequences taking place in outer space?

    And if we take Wonder Woman as an example of 'period piece action movies being very successful', you forget that it's also a 'female heroine movie being very successful', so you are by default advocating that they should cast a female James Bond and it would be a major box office hit.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    I personally think a period piece can theoretically work. It all depends on who does it and how it's done. Mad Men was brilliant and captivating because of how it was done rather than due to the historic timeline alone.

    I thought Man From Uncle was a completely forgettable PoS (and I'm being generous), but that's not because of it being set in the past.

    My concern with them going back in time is that it takes us into the realm of reboots and I'm completely done with that. Let Craig remain the only reboot Bond please. Also, it's more difficult to move forward once one goes into historic reboot territory and I'm all for ease of continuity with James Bond.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I disagree. The Man from UNCLE was an outstanding film.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    don't you think, @bondjames , that they will have to re-boot themselves out of the Craig era...? Kind of like what @RC7 suggested when he was talking about Nolan: having Nolan come in to re-create the sandbox that other directors could then play in afterwards?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    peter wrote: »
    don't you think, @bondjames , that they will have to re-boot themselves out of the Craig era...? Kind of like what @RC7 suggested when he was talking about Nolan: having Nolan come in to re-create the sandbox that other directors could then play in afterwards?

    I think he was talking about creating a new aesthetic for Bond, not necessarily rebooting. I see no need for a reboot, just a return to standalone adventures. They don't have to make a big song and dance about it, IMO.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    @peter, I think they need to reboot out of the Craig era aesthetically, and I think that was what RC7 was referring to. I can see someone with Nolan's expertise and vision being able to do that but other directors could do it too.

    I don't think it needs to be as clear cut a hard reset 'in fact' as CR was though. I believe they need something like the LTK to GE move. The latter film was much slicker and hip, but there was no explicit reference to timelines. The reboot was in modernizing the Bond character as much as in the style.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    peter wrote: »
    I agree, but if I'm not mistaken, I think the romance started on set (they filmed a lot of it in a small town outside the GTA during winter; with a terrible production @bondjames , and nothing to do... I guess things happened)...

    I also seem to remember Rachel was still with Arononsky (sp?), and Daniel was with a producer gf...

    In the end, the shooting script was far different from the script I had the pleasure to read.

    They filmed at a place very close to me, which I pass by almost everyday. Got to see the sets and see Craig himself act. Something I'll never forget.
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