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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Here is an interview with Broccoli Jr. It could shed some light.

    http://williamdickersonfilmmaker.com/the-interview-a-to-z-with-angelica-zollo/

    Who are some of your artistic inspirations and role models? And why?
    ---
    "There are so many! My parents are both film and theatre producers and my grandparents also were in film, writing and acting. I am constantly in awe of their hard work and passion for telling stories. I am inspired by artists who aren’t afraid to use their own voice to speak about things that are not necessarily talked about or are difficult. There are also so many incredible female storytellers that have important stories to tell. Not enough of them are heard.

    I am constantly watching, reading and listening. I watch loads of old films, and try to watch as much as I can. To name a few new and old: Agnes Varda, Billy Wilder, David Lean, Mike Nichols, William Wyler, George Cukor, Alan Parker, Hugh Hudson, Francis Ford Coppola, Sofia Coppola, Susane Bier, Andrea Arnold, Howard Hawkes, Spike Jonze, Derek Cianfrance, Hal Ashby, Frank Capra, Ingmar Bergman, Woody Allen, Luis Bunuel, John Cassavetes, Chantal Ackerman, Spike Lee, Xavier Dolan, the list goes on and on. I know I have forgotten so many!    "
    ---
    No mention of old Bond films? Disappointing.
  • DennisonDennison
    Posts: 1,031
    bondjames wrote: »
    Here is an interview with Broccoli Jr. It could shed some light.

    http://williamdickersonfilmmaker.com/the-interview-a-to-z-with-angelica-zollo/

    Who are some of your artistic inspirations and role models? And why?
    ---
    "There are so many! My parents are both film and theatre producers and my grandparents also were in film, writing and acting. I am constantly in awe of their hard work and passion for telling stories. I am inspired by artists who aren’t afraid to use their own voice to speak about things that are not necessarily talked about or are difficult. There are also so many incredible female storytellers that have important stories to tell. Not enough of them are heard.

    I am constantly watching, reading and listening. I watch loads of old films, and try to watch as much as I can. To name a few new and old: Agnes Varda, Billy Wilder, David Lean, Mike Nichols, William Wyler, George Cukor, Alan Parker, Hugh Hudson, Francis Ford Coppola, Sofia Coppola, Susane Bier, Andrea Arnold, Howard Hawkes, Spike Jonze, Derek Cianfrance, Hal Ashby, Frank Capra, Ingmar Bergman, Woody Allen, Luis Bunuel, John Cassavetes, Chantal Ackerman, Spike Lee, Xavier Dolan, the list goes on and on. I know I have forgotten so many!    "
    ---
    No mention of old Bond films? Disappointing.

    She's cool.
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited July 2017 Posts: 3,164
    idk if this has really been brought up but - Warner Bros announced last night that Wonder Woman 2 will be released on December 13, 2019.

    Now here's the interesting part. WB previously staked out that date for an "Untitled Event Film" (only announced a couple weeks back), with an "Untitled DC Film" scheduled for November 1, 2019 since last April. Now, it wouldn't make sense for two DC films to be out around a month apart so they've evidently swapped the "event film" for November, and DC (i.e. Wondy 2) is now in December.

    And guess when this announcement came? The day after EON/MGM drop the B25 date.

    Have a feeling this is a hint that WB have the rights....
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    antovolk wrote: »
    idk if this has really been brought up but - Warner Bros announced last night that Wonder Woman 2 will be released on December 13, 2019.

    Now here's the interesting part. WB previously staked out that date for an "Untitled Event Film", with an "Untitled DC Film" scheduled for November 1, 2019. Now, it wouldn't make sense for two DC films to be out around a month apart so they've evidently swapped the "event film" for November, and DC (i.e. Wondy 2) is now in December.

    And guess when this announcement came? The day after EON/MGM drop the B25 date.

    Have a feeling this is a hint that WB have the rights....
    Or it could just mean that EON achieved their result. The announcement could have been a a preemptive manoeuvre on EON's part to stake out its traditional release spot. If so, it may have worked. DC probably ideally wanted more space between WW2 and Frozen 2 (similar audience).
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited July 2017 Posts: 3,164
    bondjames wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    idk if this has really been brought up but - Warner Bros announced last night that Wonder Woman 2 will be released on December 13, 2019.

    Now here's the interesting part. WB previously staked out that date for an "Untitled Event Film", with an "Untitled DC Film" scheduled for November 1, 2019. Now, it wouldn't make sense for two DC films to be out around a month apart so they've evidently swapped the "event film" for November, and DC (i.e. Wondy 2) is now in December.

    And guess when this announcement came? The day after EON/MGM drop the B25 date.

    Have a feeling this is a hint that WB have the rights....
    Or it could just mean that EON achieved their result. The announcement could have been a a preemptive manoeuvre on EON's part to stake out its traditional release spot. If so, it may have worked. DC probably ideally wanted more space between WW2 and Frozen 2 (similar audience).

    If that's the case - what's the November 'WB Event Film' that would be going up vs B25?

    EDIT: Also to bear in mind - THR and other trades have been saying that a release date announcement for WW2 was supposed to come at WB's SDCC presentation on Saturday.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    antovolk wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    idk if this has really been brought up but - Warner Bros announced last night that Wonder Woman 2 will be released on December 13, 2019.

    Now here's the interesting part. WB previously staked out that date for an "Untitled Event Film", with an "Untitled DC Film" scheduled for November 1, 2019. Now, it wouldn't make sense for two DC films to be out around a month apart so they've evidently swapped the "event film" for November, and DC (i.e. Wondy 2) is now in December.

    And guess when this announcement came? The day after EON/MGM drop the B25 date.

    Have a feeling this is a hint that WB have the rights....
    Or it could just mean that EON achieved their result. The announcement could have been a a preemptive manoeuvre on EON's part to stake out its traditional release spot. If so, it may have worked. DC probably ideally wanted more space between WW2 and Frozen 2 (similar audience).

    If that's the case - what's the November 'WB Event Film' that would be going up vs B25?

    EDIT: Also to bear in mind - THR and other trades have been saying that a release date announcement for WW2 was supposed to come during SDCC weekend.
    Perhaps one of the JL crew's solo efforts? If so, I don't think it's a threat to Bond. Wondy is though.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,400
    Maybe they're one and the same.
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    bondjames wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    idk if this has really been brought up but - Warner Bros announced last night that Wonder Woman 2 will be released on December 13, 2019.

    Now here's the interesting part. WB previously staked out that date for an "Untitled Event Film", with an "Untitled DC Film" scheduled for November 1, 2019. Now, it wouldn't make sense for two DC films to be out around a month apart so they've evidently swapped the "event film" for November, and DC (i.e. Wondy 2) is now in December.

    And guess when this announcement came? The day after EON/MGM drop the B25 date.

    Have a feeling this is a hint that WB have the rights....
    Or it could just mean that EON achieved their result. The announcement could have been a a preemptive manoeuvre on EON's part to stake out its traditional release spot. If so, it may have worked. DC probably ideally wanted more space between WW2 and Frozen 2 (similar audience).

    If that's the case - what's the November 'WB Event Film' that would be going up vs B25?

    EDIT: Also to bear in mind - THR and other trades have been saying that a release date announcement for WW2 was supposed to come during SDCC weekend.
    Perhaps one of the JL crew's solo efforts? If so, I don't think it's a threat to Bond. Wondy is though.

    like I said, would make zero sense for another DC film to open a month before WW2.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    antovolk wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    idk if this has really been brought up but - Warner Bros announced last night that Wonder Woman 2 will be released on December 13, 2019.

    Now here's the interesting part. WB previously staked out that date for an "Untitled Event Film", with an "Untitled DC Film" scheduled for November 1, 2019. Now, it wouldn't make sense for two DC films to be out around a month apart so they've evidently swapped the "event film" for November, and DC (i.e. Wondy 2) is now in December.

    And guess when this announcement came? The day after EON/MGM drop the B25 date.

    Have a feeling this is a hint that WB have the rights....
    Or it could just mean that EON achieved their result. The announcement could have been a a preemptive manoeuvre on EON's part to stake out its traditional release spot. If so, it may have worked. DC probably ideally wanted more space between WW2 and Frozen 2 (similar audience).

    If that's the case - what's the November 'WB Event Film' that would be going up vs B25?

    EDIT: Also to bear in mind - THR and other trades have been saying that a release date announcement for WW2 was supposed to come during SDCC weekend.
    Perhaps one of the JL crew's solo efforts? If so, I don't think it's a threat to Bond. Wondy is though.

    like I said, would make zero sense for another DC film to open a month before WW2.
    Sorry, missed that bit. Ok, so it's a WB film on something else. Beats me what this could be, but perhaps it's not direct competition (we hope) - hence the move around of the two.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Who are the possible distributers at the moment?
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Who are the possible distributers at the moment?

    Sony, Warner Bros., Universal, 20th Century Fox and Annapurna. Paramount and Disney didn't bid.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Who are the possible distributers at the moment?
    Possible? Warner, Universal, Fox, Sony, Annapurna. Likely? Warner.

  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    I was under the impression that the DC November 1st film is Suicide Squad 2?
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    jake24 wrote: »
    I was under the impression that the DC November 1st film is Suicide Squad 2?

    would agree with you but (for a 3rd time lol) - they wouldn't release two DC films a month apart.
  • noSolaceleftnoSolaceleft
    Posts: 1,162
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I don't know what people see in Hardy. The best I could see him in a Bond film is as a charismatic thug. He doesn't have that sophisticated Etonian swagger whatsoever. He's charismatic, sure. But, he's no Bond.

    Thumbs up. Both of them!
  • noSolaceleftnoSolaceleft
    edited July 2017 Posts: 1,162
    bondjames wrote: »
    Here is an interview with Broccoli Jr. It could shed some light.

    http://williamdickersonfilmmaker.com/the-interview-a-to-z-with-angelica-zollo/

    Who are some of your artistic inspirations and role models? And why?
    ---
    "There are so many! My parents are both film and theatre producers and my grandparents also were in film, writing and acting. I am constantly in awe of their hard work and passion for telling stories. I am inspired by artists who aren’t afraid to use their own voice to speak about things that are not necessarily talked about or are difficult. There are also so many incredible female storytellers that have important stories to tell. Not enough of them are heard.

    I am constantly watching, reading and listening. I watch loads of old films, and try to watch as much as I can. To name a few new and old: Agnes Varda, Billy Wilder, David Lean, Mike Nichols, William Wyler, George Cukor, Alan Parker, Hugh Hudson, Francis Ford Coppola, Sofia Coppola, Susane Bier, Andrea Arnold, Howard Hawkes, Spike Jonze, Derek Cianfrance, Hal Ashby, Frank Capra, Ingmar Bergman, Woody Allen, Luis Bunuel, John Cassavetes, Chantal Ackerman, Spike Lee, Xavier Dolan, the list goes on and on. I know I have forgotten so many!    "
    ---
    No mention of old Bond films? Disappointing.

    As much as I love the Bond movies they are no pieces of art,nor were they ever intended to be ( and those two that were,failed miserably, at least in my opinion. )
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    noSolaceleft wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Here is an interview with Broccoli Jr. It could shed some light.

    http://williamdickersonfilmmaker.com/the-interview-a-to-z-with-angelica-zollo/

    Who are some of your artistic inspirations and role models? And why?
    ---
    "There are so many! My parents are both film and theatre producers and my grandparents also were in film, writing and acting. I am constantly in awe of their hard work and passion for telling stories. I am inspired by artists who aren’t afraid to use their own voice to speak about things that are not necessarily talked about or are difficult. There are also so many incredible female storytellers that have important stories to tell. Not enough of them are heard.

    I am constantly watching, reading and listening. I watch loads of old films, and try to watch as much as I can. To name a few new and old: Agnes Varda, Billy Wilder, David Lean, Mike Nichols, William Wyler, George Cukor, Alan Parker, Hugh Hudson, Francis Ford Coppola, Sofia Coppola, Susane Bier, Andrea Arnold, Howard Hawkes, Spike Jonze, Derek Cianfrance, Hal Ashby, Frank Capra, Ingmar Bergman, Woody Allen, Luis Bunuel, John Cassavetes, Chantal Ackerman, Spike Lee, Xavier Dolan, the list goes on and on. I know I have forgotten so many!    "
    ---
    No mention of old Bond films? Disappointing.

    As much as I love the Bond movies they are no pieces of art (nor were they ever intended to be.)
    Agreed. I would have still liked to have read something about Bond in her interview, given we were considering her interest in the franchise going forward. She seems more Indie to me.
    noSolaceleft wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I don't know what people see in Hardy. The best I could see him in a Bond film is as a charismatic thug. He doesn't have that sophisticated Etonian swagger whatsoever. He's charismatic, sure. But, he's no Bond.

    Thumbs up. Both of them!
    I think he has as much if not more swagger than Craig. It doesn't mean he's my first preference for Bond, but I don't think he's any more of a 'thug'.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    I even see him playing another 00 different from Bond, but he's definitely too thug for Bond. Craig's posture is definitely somewhat of Bondian as is his walk. Hardy doesn't have it and he certainly can't force it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I even see him playing another 00 different from Bond, but he's definitely too thug for Bond. Craig's posture is definitely somewhat of Bondian as is his walk. Hardy doesn't have it and he certainly can't force it.
    We disagree on this. If we're talking 'thugishness' in comparison to an ideal, I honestly can't tell the difference. They'd both be fine as they're both excellent actors, which is what matters. I'm afraid I don't see Bondian posture or walk in Craig. He has many positive attributes, but those don't come to mind (except for briefly outside the casino in CR).
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited July 2017 Posts: 4,520
    Saying 2019 give them more breath, but there can always release it earlier. My feeling it mean Sam Mendes is back. 25 October 2019 for UK and 30 (31) October 2019 for The Netherlands.

    Warner of course whant also somethig to tell and showing there mussels with that movie for December 2019.

    I see it happen Adele whant to make album ''29'' and Bond 25 introducing the first electrik car in a movie. I not realy like it that release dates are choosen because of the car sponser.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,718
    There's a live-action Disney movie coming out on November 8, 2019.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited July 2017 Posts: 15,423
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I even see him playing another 00 different from Bond, but he's definitely too thug for Bond. Craig's posture is definitely somewhat of Bondian as is his walk. Hardy doesn't have it and he certainly can't force it.
    We disagree on this. If we're talking 'thugishness' in comparison to an ideal, I honestly can't tell the difference. They'd both be fine as they're both excellent actors, which is what matters. I'm afraid I don't see Bondian posture or walk in Craig. He has many positive attributes, but those don't come to mind (except for briefly outside the casino in CR).
    There was an Oscar presentation ten years ago when Craig was walking on the stage with Nicole Kidman to read the name of the candidates, can't recall which was it, but without even seeing who the man was close up, I found his walk and posture very Bondian, seeing how cool he was, only to find out moments later it was Daniel Craig. The man certainly has it. Sure, sometimes he stands unconventionally with his legs wide open (in front of the DB10 in Q's Lab or looking down to Blofeld at the Westminster Bridge in Spectre, for instance), but he certainly isn't a street thuggish type of a hunchback that Hardy is (no offense to the man, I love him as an actor, just not as Bond and never as Bond). Craig has his shoulders and chin up that offers something of a beyond being a street underling. Hardy doesn't have that sophistication, and it isn't too much of a sophistication.
  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Saying 2019 give them more breath, but there can always release it earlier. My feeling it mean Sam Mendes is back. 25 October 2019 for UK and 30 (31) October 2019 for The Netherlands.

    Well EON's announcement does confirm that it will have a 'traditional early release' outside the US in late October.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I don't know what people see in Hardy. The best I could see him in a Bond film is as a charismatic thug. He doesn't have that sophisticated Etonian swagger whatsoever. He's charismatic, sure. But, he's no Bond.

    I like Hardy. He's definitely a fantastic actor but I have to agree that he lacks a certain something for me. For starters, his posture in the way he walks, there's no sense of natural assertive grace in his movement at least from what I've observed. In the end he could very well make a great Bond but I'm having a bit of difficulty seeing it.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    Posts: 15,423
    I just can't see him as Bond for the same reason I can't see Oliver Reed as Bond.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I even see him playing another 00 different from Bond, but he's definitely too thug for Bond. Craig's posture is definitely somewhat of Bondian as is his walk. Hardy doesn't have it and he certainly can't force it.
    We disagree on this. If we're talking 'thugishness' in comparison to an ideal, I honestly can't tell the difference. They'd both be fine as they're both excellent actors, which is what matters. I'm afraid I don't see Bondian posture or walk in Craig. He has many positive attributes, but those don't come to mind (except for briefly outside the casino in CR).
    There was an Oscar presentation ten years ago when Craig was walking on the stage with Nicole Kidman to read the name of the candidates, can't recall which was it, but without even seeing who the man was close up, I found his walk and posture very Bondian, seeing how cool he was, only to find out moments later it was Daniel Craig. The man certainly has it. Sure, sometimes he stands unconventionally with his legs wide open (in front of the DB10 in Q's Lab or looking down to Blofeld at the Westminster Bridge in Spectre, for instance), but he certainly isn't a street thuggish type of a hunchback that Hardy is (no offense to the man, I love him as an actor, just not as Bond and never as Bond). Craig has his shoulders and chin up that offers something of a beyond being a street underling. Hardy doesn't have that sophistication, and it isn't too much of a sophistication.
    I hear you but I just don't get any sophistication out of Craig either. They're absolutely on par for me. Not a knock on DC because he has many positives as Bond, but he only really sold me on the sophistication a few times, and they were all in CR.

    A director can get great things out of an actor, as Young demonstrated with Connery. So anything is possible with anyone.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I even see him playing another 00 different from Bond, but he's definitely too thug for Bond. Craig's posture is definitely somewhat of Bondian as is his walk. Hardy doesn't have it and he certainly can't force it.
    We disagree on this. If we're talking 'thugishness' in comparison to an ideal, I honestly can't tell the difference. They'd both be fine as they're both excellent actors, which is what matters. I'm afraid I don't see Bondian posture or walk in Craig. He has many positive attributes, but those don't come to mind (except for briefly outside the casino in CR).
    There was an Oscar presentation ten years ago when Craig was walking on the stage with Nicole Kidman to read the name of the candidates, can't recall which was it, but without even seeing who the man was close up, I found his walk and posture very Bondian, seeing how cool he was, only to find out moments later it was Daniel Craig. The man certainly has it. Sure, sometimes he stands unconventionally with his legs wide open (in front of the DB10 in Q's Lab or looking down to Blofeld at the Westminster Bridge in Spectre, for instance), but he certainly isn't a street thuggish type of a hunchback that Hardy is (no offense to the man, I love him as an actor, just not as Bond and never as Bond). Craig has his shoulders and chin up that offers something of a beyond being a street underling. Hardy doesn't have that sophistication, and it isn't too much of a sophistication.
    I hear you but I just don't get any sophistication out of Craig either. They're absolutely on par for me. Not a knock on DC because he has many positives as Bond, but he only really sold me on the sophistication a few times, and they were all in CR.

    A director can get great things out of an actor, as Young demonstrated with Connery. So anything is possible with anyone.

    Well, the Broccoli's and Wilson's certainly aren't Republicans :-P:
    http://www.angelicazollo.com/
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I even see him playing another 00 different from Bond, but he's definitely too thug for Bond. Craig's posture is definitely somewhat of Bondian as is his walk. Hardy doesn't have it and he certainly can't force it.
    We disagree on this. If we're talking 'thugishness' in comparison to an ideal, I honestly can't tell the difference. They'd both be fine as they're both excellent actors, which is what matters. I'm afraid I don't see Bondian posture or walk in Craig. He has many positive attributes, but those don't come to mind (except for briefly outside the casino in CR).
    There was an Oscar presentation ten years ago when Craig was walking on the stage with Nicole Kidman to read the name of the candidates, can't recall which was it, but without even seeing who the man was close up, I found his walk and posture very Bondian, seeing how cool he was, only to find out moments later it was Daniel Craig. The man certainly has it. Sure, sometimes he stands unconventionally with his legs wide open (in front of the DB10 in Q's Lab or looking down to Blofeld at the Westminster Bridge in Spectre, for instance), but he certainly isn't a street thuggish type of a hunchback that Hardy is (no offense to the man, I love him as an actor, just not as Bond and never as Bond). Craig has his shoulders and chin up that offers something of a beyond being a street underling. Hardy doesn't have that sophistication, and it isn't too much of a sophistication.
    I hear you but I just don't get any sophistication out of Craig either. They're absolutely on par for me. Not a knock on DC because he has many positives as Bond, but he only really sold me on the sophistication a few times, and they were all in CR.

    A director can get great things out of an actor, as Young demonstrated with Connery. So anything is possible with anyone.

    Well, the Broccoli's and Wilson's certainly aren't Republicans :-P:
    http://www.angelicazollo.com/
    You must see something I don't. I see photos. Anyway, are their politics relevant to Bond or what kind of film they will make? I hope not.
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,473
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I even see him playing another 00 different from Bond, but he's definitely too thug for Bond. Craig's posture is definitely somewhat of Bondian as is his walk. Hardy doesn't have it and he certainly can't force it.
    We disagree on this. If we're talking 'thugishness' in comparison to an ideal, I honestly can't tell the difference. They'd both be fine as they're both excellent actors, which is what matters. I'm afraid I don't see Bondian posture or walk in Craig. He has many positive attributes, but those don't come to mind (except for briefly outside the casino in CR).
    There was an Oscar presentation ten years ago when Craig was walking on the stage with Nicole Kidman to read the name of the candidates, can't recall which was it, but without even seeing who the man was close up, I found his walk and posture very Bondian, seeing how cool he was, only to find out moments later it was Daniel Craig. The man certainly has it. Sure, sometimes he stands unconventionally with his legs wide open (in front of the DB10 in Q's Lab or looking down to Blofeld at the Westminster Bridge in Spectre, for instance), but he certainly isn't a street thuggish type of a hunchback that Hardy is (no offense to the man, I love him as an actor, just not as Bond and never as Bond). Craig has his shoulders and chin up that offers something of a beyond being a street underling. Hardy doesn't have that sophistication, and it isn't too much of a sophistication.
    I hear you but I just don't get any sophistication out of Craig either. They're absolutely on par for me. Not a knock on DC because he has many positives as Bond, but he only really sold me on the sophistication a few times, and they were all in CR.

    A director can get great things out of an actor, as Young demonstrated with Connery. So anything is possible with anyone.

    Well, the Broccoli's and Wilson's certainly aren't Republicans :-P:
    http://www.angelicazollo.com/

    But there's an elephant in one picture!!

    Just kidding
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    bondjames wrote: »
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    I even see him playing another 00 different from Bond, but he's definitely too thug for Bond. Craig's posture is definitely somewhat of Bondian as is his walk. Hardy doesn't have it and he certainly can't force it.
    We disagree on this. If we're talking 'thugishness' in comparison to an ideal, I honestly can't tell the difference. They'd both be fine as they're both excellent actors, which is what matters. I'm afraid I don't see Bondian posture or walk in Craig. He has many positive attributes, but those don't come to mind (except for briefly outside the casino in CR).
    There was an Oscar presentation ten years ago when Craig was walking on the stage with Nicole Kidman to read the name of the candidates, can't recall which was it, but without even seeing who the man was close up, I found his walk and posture very Bondian, seeing how cool he was, only to find out moments later it was Daniel Craig. The man certainly has it. Sure, sometimes he stands unconventionally with his legs wide open (in front of the DB10 in Q's Lab or looking down to Blofeld at the Westminster Bridge in Spectre, for instance), but he certainly isn't a street thuggish type of a hunchback that Hardy is (no offense to the man, I love him as an actor, just not as Bond and never as Bond). Craig has his shoulders and chin up that offers something of a beyond being a street underling. Hardy doesn't have that sophistication, and it isn't too much of a sophistication.
    I hear you but I just don't get any sophistication out of Craig either. They're absolutely on par for me. Not a knock on DC because he has many positives as Bond, but he only really sold me on the sophistication a few times, and they were all in CR.

    A director can get great things out of an actor, as Young demonstrated with Connery. So anything is possible with anyone.

    Well, the Broccoli's and Wilson's certainly aren't Republicans :-P:
    http://www.angelicazollo.com/
    You must see something I don't. I see photos. Anyway, are their politics relevant to Bond or what kind of film they will make? I hope not.

    I tried to make a joke @BondJames . Off course that's not relevant to whatever film :).
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