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  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Cheers, mate.
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
    edited July 2017 Posts: 306
    @AgentJamesBond007

    That is highly impressive!
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Gobi-1 wrote: »
    BMW_with_missiles wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    What a horrific idea! Babs and MGW have my respect for vetoing that!

    No kids in a Bond film please. Unless they are thrown off a boat in Thailand.

    Strangely enough, due to DirecTV's horrible plot summaries, I thought the story of TWINE was going to be something similar before I first saw it. The description was; "Bond protects the daughter of a late friend," and I thought it meant a young daughter. Terrible synopsis, but I liked the idea of Bond showing a softer side with the girl, while at the same time viciously pursuing/killing those trying to harm her.

    Also Bond wasn't Sir Robert King's friend. M was.

    Yep. Those descriptions were awful.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    He was Sir Robert King's friend....

    ...for 10 seconds.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Let me know what you guys think of the updated timeline.

    Thanks for compiling all of that information, @jake24. You've really weathered the storm here, haven't you? This is a legendary thread!

    As for the directors, I said anyone but Mendes and I'd be happy and I'm true to my word. However, I must admit that I'm only familiar with Villeneuve. Still, I trust some of your opinions about the others, so bring them on.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Looks good, and makes it easy to just find the shit or just the cinnamon.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Gobi-1 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    joshdeese93 wrote: »
    I really hope that for Daniel's final outing, his gunbarrel sequence will feature him sporting a classic black tuxedo with bowtie, rather than the traditional business suit he usually wears.

    I'd like that as well as a Barry style Bond theme to accompany it, a decent Binder style graphic for the GB and for the dot to actually enlarge and open to the first shot of the PTS.

    This. Four films in and Craig has yet to have a traditional gunbarrel. Spectre's would be perfect if it wasn't for the fade to black and the artsy text. Why couldn't "The Dead are alive." have been written on a wall in Spanish and have the gunbarrel iris in on it and expand to reveal the rest of the Day of the Dead parade? It would function exactly the same but without disrupting the flow of the gunbarrel. Oh, well. Here's hoping the fifth times the charm.

    Also Craig's gunbarrel freezes after he fires. No traditional wavering left and right and eventually sinking. No other way to put it, but Craig's 4 gunbarrels look like s**t.
    Each one.

    This.

    Yes SP's was better but still not good enough.

    Just. Use. The. One. From. The. Brosnan. Era.

    Then add a large dollop of Barry Bond theme from say FRWL and Bob's your uncle.

    It's remarkable actually how they conspire to keep royally cocking up something so utterly simple.
    bondjames wrote: »
    What a horrific idea! Babs and MGW have my respect for vetoing that!

    Shame they couldn't be so discerning when it came to Bond's brother.
    bondjames wrote: »
    No kids in a Bond film please. Unless they are thrown off a boat in Thailand.

    Lovely stuff.
  • RoadphillRoadphill United Kingdom
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    Well by all reports Christophe Waltz is returning, so it is highly unlikely that we will get a traditional stand alone Bond film for 25.

    I must say, I am dissapointed. I was extremely pumped for the return of Spectre and Bond's arch nemesis in the build up to last film, but it was handled so poorly, I would now prefer that we could all just forget about it.

    The whole "Craig's arc" thing is really bemusing to me. Surely the character of Bond can have no arc as such. To have one is to suggest there is a finite end, and correct me if I am wrong, the view of the fans, critics and probably the major studios, is that the Bond franchise is almost infinite.

    Unless we get another reboot, which I personally would despise.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited July 2017 Posts: 4,619
    Roadphill wrote: »
    by all reports Christophe Waltz is returning,
    What?
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    by all reports Christophe Waltz is returning,
    What?

    I'd be happy if he does but yes where are all these reports?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Do the reports by any chance say Judi Dench will return as M? ;)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Judi Dench will be seen as a flashback in B25, in Bond s dreams in B26, as a ghost in B27 and as Ms twin sister in B28. In B29 she plays a different M for an unknown number of films. I don t know how trustworthy these reports are, but I see no reason to doubt them.
  • noSolaceleftnoSolaceleft
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    AgentJamesBond007 wrote: »
    My idea of how B25's gunbarrel should look:


    I just don't like that cowboy stance. Feels pseudo cool to me.
  • antovolkantovolk
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    Roadphill wrote: »
    The whole "Craig's arc" thing is really bemusing to me. Surely the character of Bond can have no arc as such. To have one is to suggest there is a finite end, and correct me if I am wrong, the view of the fans, critics and probably the major studios, is that the Bond franchise is almost infinite.

    Unless we get another reboot, which I personally would despise.

    Well isn't there a reboot technically every time a new actor is cast?

    Anyway all this would mean is - new cast top to bottom for once Craig leaves. A reboot doesn't mean they have to do Casino Royale AGAIN, unlike what a few people seem to think. And they just ignore the events of CR-SPECTRE as they happened in the Craig era.

    I believe audiences today are more demanding of continuity, for EON to try to go back to the old way after what they've done from CR-SPECTRE would be incredibly disingenuous. After Craig's gone there must be a reboot - and then they can try go back to the old loose continuity method.
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
    edited July 2017 Posts: 4,408
    This bloke is very East Laaandan. He's most certainly the most urban and working-class Bond director ever. It's about time Bond shook it up.



    Also....in other news. James Bond Australia have posted that Yann was spotted at EON HQ on Tuesday.

    https://www.instagram.com/jamesbonddownunder/

    Also I left a comment on Yann's instagram (shameless plug: my account is @amanofsteel62) asking about Bond and he deleted it. Keep an eye on his page here:

    https://www.instagram.com/yanndemange/
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    This bloke is very East Laaandan. He's most certainly the most urban and working-class Bond director ever. It's about time Bond shook it up.

    And he'd be the first French director to make a Bond film. ;)
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited July 2017 Posts: 4,619
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    This bloke is very East Laaandan. He's most certainly the most urban and working-class Bond director ever. It's about time Bond shook it up.

    And he'd be the first French director to make a Bond film. ;)

    I'm all for making the Bond franchise a little bit less British, before the inevitable Nolan takeover. ;) After all, he will probably make the most British Bond film ever.
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    What a horrific idea! Babs and MGW have my respect for vetoing that!

    Shame they couldn't be so discerning when it came to Bond's brother.

    +1
    Blofeld as Bond's step-brother is a much worse idea, IMO.
  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    This bloke is very East Laaandan. He's most certainly the most urban and working-class Bond director ever. It's about time Bond shook it up.

    And he'd be the first French director to make a Bond film. ;)

    I'm all for making the Bond franchise a little bit less British, before the inevitable Nolan takeover. ;) After all, he will probably make the most British Bond film ever.
    Pipe dream.

  • GeneralGogolGeneralGogol
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    I'm all for Yann Demange directing. '71 is a strong, crisply-directed thriller. This man strikes me as the new Guy Ritchie (not so much directing style, but combination of technical ability and being an urbane bloke). Or like if Matthew Vaughn would've directed Casino Royale, right after Layer Cake and before going into comicbook movies.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    It seems the promo tour for 'Logan Lucky' is kicking off this week. Channing Tatum will be on 'Jimmy Kimmel Live' on Monday, 31st July, 2017.

    So perhaps we will see DC doing some press after all.

    And Halle Berry will be on 'The Tonight Show' and 'Watch What Happens Live' this week, so maybe a mention of 'Kings' as well.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited July 2017 Posts: 7,546
    antovolk wrote: »
    Roadphill wrote: »
    The whole "Craig's arc" thing is really bemusing to me. Surely the character of Bond can have no arc as such. To have one is to suggest there is a finite end, and correct me if I am wrong, the view of the fans, critics and probably the major studios, is that the Bond franchise is almost infinite.

    Unless we get another reboot, which I personally would despise.

    Well isn't there a reboot technically every time a new actor is cast?

    Anyway all this would mean is - new cast top to bottom for once Craig leaves. A reboot doesn't mean they have to do Casino Royale AGAIN, unlike what a few people seem to think. And they just ignore the events of CR-SPECTRE as they happened in the Craig era.

    I believe audiences today are more demanding of continuity, for EON to try to go back to the old way after what they've done from CR-SPECTRE would be incredibly disingenuous. After Craig's gone there must be a reboot - and then they can try go back to the old loose continuity method.

    I don't think so, I think Craig's CR is the only reboot because it takes him back to the beginning of his career and gives him his own arc. Goldeneye wasn't a reboot.

    And it could be argued that CR isn't a reboot really ether because there was no chronology preceding it. Just IMO. Every actor has had various missions throughout the characters career, Craig just happened to get the first one.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    wasn't a reboot.

    And it could be argued that CR isn't a reboot really ether because there was no chronology preceding it. Just IMO. Every actor has had various missions throughout the characters career, Craig just happened to get the first one.

    I may be daft, but I don t understand.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    I thought Brozza was a reboot of sorts. It certainly felt fresh to me.

    Regarding Logan Lucky's press: What's unfortunate is that most of the other stars are likely to be questioned by the talking heads on Craig as they promote the film, especially since he was quite noticeable in the trailers. It's likely to be a distraction.

    I'm sure we'll all be looking for 2017's version of the now infamous "Oyelowo Smile" to infer Craig's intentions, if an announcement isn't made in the next couple of weeks.
  • TuuliaTuulia
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    "Oyelowo Smile"?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited July 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Tuulia wrote: »
    "Oyelowo Smile"?
    He was interviewed during the Othello run and questioned on Craig's intentions vis-a-vis Bond. He craftily smiled when the reporter presumed Craig had left the role & said something cagey, leading some to infer that it meant Craig was definitely back. There was an interesting discussion about it here some 500 odd pages ago.
  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    edited July 2017 Posts: 4,619
    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Goldeneye wasn't a reboot.
    Of course it was a reboot. It wasn't a hard reboot like CR, but it absolutely was a reboot.

    Soft reboot: OHMSS, LALD, TLD, GE, maybe even DAF
    Hard reboot: CR
  • TuuliaTuulia
    Posts: 2,081
    bondjames wrote: »
    Tuulia wrote: »
    "Oyelowo Smile"?
    He was interviewed during the Othello run and questioned on Craig's intentions vis-a-vis Bond. He craftily smiled when the reporter presumed Craig had left the role & said something cagey, leading some to infer that it meant Craig was definitely back. There was an interesting discussion about it here some 500 odd pages ago.

    Oh, I see, thanks.
  • Thunderball007Thunderball007 United States
    edited July 2017 Posts: 306
    Wishing for a.. Bright, colorful, breezy adventure. Exotic locations. Pacing, musical score, and tone similar to Casino Royale.

    Anyone else think like this?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Thunderball007 wrote: »
    Wishing for a.. Bright, colorful, breezy adventure. Exotic locations. Pacing, musical score, and tone similar to Casino Royale.

    Anyone else think like this?
    Definitely my choice too (CR prior to the third act).

    Hoping for the best.
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