No Time To Die: Production Diary

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  • edited August 2017 Posts: 3,164
    Let's put it this way. This comment was said during Showtime's TCA presentation yesterday when they teased our future shows they're doing. Should Showtime have waited to say that the production of the show was gonna be delayed to wait for Daniel (the network previously publicly stated they aim to shoot this year) until EON officially announced he's on board Bond 25? When events like TCA ARE the place and time to announce news like this - especially negative ones that would get a whole lot more attention if they put out a press release

    You all seriously need to start following industry goings on outside Bond...these sorts of underhanded confirmations and slip ups happen ALL THE TIME. Not everything is announced in a shiny press release from the studio. Hell, most of the time they offload stuff to the trades like Variety/THR/Deadline and it's all used as leverage when it's not a done deal/when it's just 'in talks'.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2017 Posts: 15,715
    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    RC7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    007Blofeld wrote: »

    Already posted that, also not a confirmation. Most signs point to his return, but nothing is confirmed.
    Living in an alternate reality?

    If you think there was a confirmation anywhere, anytime you are probably the one who's living in an alternate reality.

    David Zaritsky's basement in the upside down.
    Mod Edit for language.

    Sorry, I meant bedroom.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited August 2017 Posts: 40,968
    antovolk wrote: »
    Let's put it this way. This comment was said during Showtime's TCA presentation yesterday when they teased our future shows they're doing. Should Showtime have waited to say that the production of the show was gonna be delayed to wait for Daniel (the network previously publicly stated they aim to shoot this year) until EON officially announced he's on board Bond 25? When events like TCA ARE the place and time to announce news like this - especially negative ones that would get a whole lot more attention if they put out a press release

    You all seriously need to start following industry goings on outside Bond...these sorts of underhanded confirmations and slip ups happen ALL THE TIME. Not everything is announced in a shiny press release from the studio. Hell, most of the time they offload stuff to the trades like Variety/THR/Deadline and it's all used as leverage when it's not a done deal/when it's just 'in talks'.

    "You all seriously need to start following industry goings on outside Bond..."

    Why? Craig returns or he doesn't, the end. No harm waiting for official confirmations, lest I may as well believe every single rumor I've read in the last 920 pages.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2017 Posts: 15,715
    Showtime already had given an estimated production schedule for 'Purity', which cannot be delayed anymore. So either they were lying at the time or they are lying now.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.

    Work on the script has been on going for some time.
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    Showtime already had given an estimated production schedule for 'Purity', which cannot be delayed anymore. So either they were lying at the time or they are lying now.

    That's literally why the CEO said what he said about Craig. It CAN be delayed and it is being delayed because of B25
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2017 Posts: 15,715
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.

    Work on the script has been on going for some time.

    If we believe Showtime, Purity is done filming already and will air within a few months. So how can they delay something that is already finished? Which obviously isn't true, since there are no actors attached to the project apart from Craig. So this means production is already over half-a-year late based on their previous filming schedule. Which begs the question that why has there been zero news, reports or even comment from Showtime that they are behind schedule, and only now that B25 has a release date they confirm the delay?
    antovolk wrote: »
    Showtime already had given an estimated production schedule for 'Purity', which cannot be delayed anymore. So either they were lying at the time or they are lying now.

    That's literally why the CEO said what he said about Craig. It CAN be delayed and it is being delayed because of B25

    Again: production for Purity has ended already according to their previous schedule, so how can they delay something that is completed? And since this is obviously a lie, because nothing has happened on Purity in over a year, why has there been no news or comments from Showtime they are over half-a-year late already, and we only hear about delays once B25 was confirmed for 2019?

    Either 1. production is already completed based on their previous schedule, so it can't be delayed, or 2. there is nothing to delay because Purity is a non-existent project.
  • edited August 2017 Posts: 3,164
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.

    Work on the script has been on going for some time.

    If we believe Showtime, Purity is done filming already and will air within a few months. So how can they delay something that is already finished? Which obviously isn't true, since there are no actors attached to the project apart from Craig. So this means production is already over half-a-year late based on their previous filming schedule. Which begs the question that why has there been zero news, reports or even comment from Showtime that they are behind schedule, and only now that B25 has a release date they confirm the delay?

    Dude...they haven't filmed anything at all from Purity. And all they said previously was 'production will begin in 2017'. Could mean January or even December 2017. That's as specific as they made it.

    And read back that last sentence again. They were waiting to say stuff probably BECAUSE of EON being being tight lipped and sorting B25 out. The project wasn't even made official until a few weeks ago.

    EDIT: to your reply - why are you ignoring option 3 - production has been delayed because of Bond 25?
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,715
    antovolk wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.

    Work on the script has been on going for some time.

    If we believe Showtime, Purity is done filming already and will air within a few months. So how can they delay something that is already finished? Which obviously isn't true, since there are no actors attached to the project apart from Craig. So this means production is already over half-a-year late based on their previous filming schedule. Which begs the question that why has there been zero news, reports or even comment from Showtime that they are behind schedule, and only now that B25 has a release date they confirm the delay?

    Dude...they haven't filmed anything at all from Purity.

    And read back that last sentence again. They were waiting to say stuff probably BECAUSE of EON being being tight lipped and sorting B25 out. The project wasn't even made official until a few weeks ago.

    Showtime gave a filming schedule for Purity which would be completed already. So why do we hear about the delays now, in August 2017, since filming should have started over 7 months ago?
  • Posts: 3,164
    antovolk wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.

    Work on the script has been on going for some time.

    If we believe Showtime, Purity is done filming already and will air within a few months. So how can they delay something that is already finished? Which obviously isn't true, since there are no actors attached to the project apart from Craig. So this means production is already over half-a-year late based on their previous filming schedule. Which begs the question that why has there been zero news, reports or even comment from Showtime that they are behind schedule, and only now that B25 has a release date they confirm the delay?

    Dude...they haven't filmed anything at all from Purity.

    And read back that last sentence again. They were waiting to say stuff probably BECAUSE of EON being being tight lipped and sorting B25 out. The project wasn't even made official until a few weeks ago.

    Showtime gave a filming schedule for Purity which would be completed already. So why do we hear about the delays now, in August 2017, since filming should have started over 7 months ago?

    They said 'over the course of' and 'production begins' 2017. That doesn't necessarily mean January 2017. Could even mean they planned to start in December for all we know. http://www.slashfilm.com/daniel-craig-purity-james-bond/
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2017 Posts: 15,715
    antovolk wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.

    Work on the script has been on going for some time.

    If we believe Showtime, Purity is done filming already and will air within a few months. So how can they delay something that is already finished? Which obviously isn't true, since there are no actors attached to the project apart from Craig. So this means production is already over half-a-year late based on their previous filming schedule. Which begs the question that why has there been zero news, reports or even comment from Showtime that they are behind schedule, and only now that B25 has a release date they confirm the delay?

    Dude...they haven't filmed anything at all from Purity.

    And read back that last sentence again. They were waiting to say stuff probably BECAUSE of EON being being tight lipped and sorting B25 out. The project wasn't even made official until a few weeks ago.

    Showtime gave a filming schedule for Purity which would be completed already. So why do we hear about the delays now, in August 2017, since filming should have started over 7 months ago?

    They said 'over the course of' and 'production begins' 2017. That doesn't necessarily mean January 2017. Could even mean they planned to start in December for all we know. http://www.slashfilm.com/daniel-craig-purity-james-bond/

    From that link: 'This will be completed I believe during the course of 2017.' It raises no concerns that, as you say, B25 wasn't official until a few weeks ago, meaning that more than half of 2017 has gone by and they still don't even have a single actor/actress confirmed in the cast for 'Purity'? I'm not trying to start arguments, I am just saying there isn't anything to delay as Purity was hugely unlikely to film at all in 2017 even if B25 was still in limbo for X amount of months. That Showtime TCA comments are irrelevant as Purity was going nowhere anyway.
  • 007Blofeld007Blofeld In the freedom of the West.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @007Blofeld, I've asked the same question. No idea.

    @QuantumOrganization, I live in a reality where I don't buy into random articles and rumors, instead awaiting an official confirmation.

    Agreed here
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited August 2017 Posts: 15,715
    antovolk wrote: »

    EDIT: to your reply - why are you ignoring option 3 - production has been delayed because of Bond 25?

    Purity doesn't have a confirmed cast, so what is there to delay anyway? If they were really wanting to shoot sometimes in 2017, surely the project was going nowhere even without the B25 confirmation as we are now in August 2017 and still no actors/actresses are confirmed for Purity.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Kuzco wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Kuzco wrote: »
    Wat

    ? if Bond 25 is for nov 2019 , filming will be at the end of 2018 and begin 2019 , so Craig is free to shoot "Purity" this year
    Precisely. I don't think it's so much not being able to do it as much as not being permitted to do it. No studio wants their Bond overexposed on TV or even confirmed as being associated with this medium.

    if Craig could shoot "purity" only in 2019, that means craig is free in 2018 to shoot bond ( brocolli wanted bond 25 on screen in nov 2018) so Why they pushed back Bond 25 to 2019 ?
    Well, that could have something to do with either the director they want or the distributor. I'd imagine a director would want to tweak the script and we're already in August, making a January start date for shooting B25 and a 2018 release date a bit tight. Too bad they spent one year dicking about with a possible sale to the Chinese.
    bondjames wrote: »

    Great article bondjames.

    The only thing that could make this worse now is Craig coming on for two more (?) and if Paul McWhoever decides to helm the next B25 film, because of his work on the highly anticipated Films Stars Don't Die in Liverpool.
    Haha. Agreed @dominicgreene. If the announcement is as others have speculated then anticlimactic would be an understatement. I'll honestly be at a loss to explain what they have been playing at.

    Even here, we've spent two weeks debating something which we've all pretty much known since April.

    The only thing that can make it interesting now is if all of this is a red herring.
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    antovolk wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.

    Work on the script has been on going for some time.

    If we believe Showtime, Purity is done filming already and will air within a few months. So how can they delay something that is already finished? Which obviously isn't true, since there are no actors attached to the project apart from Craig. So this means production is already over half-a-year late based on their previous filming schedule. Which begs the question that why has there been zero news, reports or even comment from Showtime that they are behind schedule, and only now that B25 has a release date they confirm the delay?

    Dude...they haven't filmed anything at all from Purity.

    And read back that last sentence again. They were waiting to say stuff probably BECAUSE of EON being being tight lipped and sorting B25 out. The project wasn't even made official until a few weeks ago.

    Showtime gave a filming schedule for Purity which would be completed already. So why do we hear about the delays now, in August 2017, since filming should have started over 7 months ago?

    They said 'over the course of' and 'production begins' 2017. That doesn't necessarily mean January 2017. Could even mean they planned to start in December for all we know. http://www.slashfilm.com/daniel-craig-purity-james-bond/

    From that link: 'This will be completed I believe during the course of 2017.' It raises no concerns that, as you say, B25 wasn't official until a few weeks ago, meaning that more than half of 2017 has gone by and they still don't even have a single actor/actress confirmed in the cast for 'Purity'? I'm not trying to start arguments, I am just saying there isn't anything to delay as Purity was hugely unlikely to film at all in 2017 even if B25 was still in limbo for X amount of months. That Showtime TCA comments are irrelevant as Purity was going nowhere anyway.

    The comments are relevant as they indirectly confirm Craig for B25, if Showtime's CEO is saying himself that Craig's shooting Bond first and then Purity.

    Showtime knew about Bond 25 plans before the public did for sure given the fact that Craig is involved with them, my point is they just waited till now to say something on Purity not moving into production this year because B25 was made *publicly* official only a few weeks ago
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    It is nice to be proven right on Daniel Craig returning for Bond 25!!! Get in!!!!
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,715
    antovolk wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.

    Work on the script has been on going for some time.

    If we believe Showtime, Purity is done filming already and will air within a few months. So how can they delay something that is already finished? Which obviously isn't true, since there are no actors attached to the project apart from Craig. So this means production is already over half-a-year late based on their previous filming schedule. Which begs the question that why has there been zero news, reports or even comment from Showtime that they are behind schedule, and only now that B25 has a release date they confirm the delay?

    Dude...they haven't filmed anything at all from Purity.

    And read back that last sentence again. They were waiting to say stuff probably BECAUSE of EON being being tight lipped and sorting B25 out. The project wasn't even made official until a few weeks ago.

    Showtime gave a filming schedule for Purity which would be completed already. So why do we hear about the delays now, in August 2017, since filming should have started over 7 months ago?

    They said 'over the course of' and 'production begins' 2017. That doesn't necessarily mean January 2017. Could even mean they planned to start in December for all we know. http://www.slashfilm.com/daniel-craig-purity-james-bond/

    From that link: 'This will be completed I believe during the course of 2017.' It raises no concerns that, as you say, B25 wasn't official until a few weeks ago, meaning that more than half of 2017 has gone by and they still don't even have a single actor/actress confirmed in the cast for 'Purity'? I'm not trying to start arguments, I am just saying there isn't anything to delay as Purity was hugely unlikely to film at all in 2017 even if B25 was still in limbo for X amount of months. That Showtime TCA comments are irrelevant as Purity was going nowhere anyway.

    The comments are relevant as they indirectly confirm Craig for B25, if Showtime's CEO is saying himself that Craig's shooting Bond first and then Purity.

    Showtime knew about Bond 25 plans before the public did for sure given the fact that Craig is involved with them, my point is they just waited till now to say something on Purity not moving into production this year because B25 was made *publicly* official only a few weeks ago

    Yes, the comments are relevant about B25, but are irrelevant about Purity. B25 confirmed or not, there was nothing to delay as Purity was dead-in-the-water already (at least currently, maybe the project will get off the ground one day, but it was going nowhere for a long time.)
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2017 Posts: 23,883
    @DaltonCraig007, I think it's been in a holding pattern pending B25. There is no way EON/MGM would have allowed Craig to be the incumbent Bond while playing on a tv show. He probably signed up for it during the time he thought he was gone. When he decided to return, Purity indefinitely went on hold. Nothing has been said because they've been futzing about trying to get a distribution deal and it delayed everything even further. Purity is 2nd fiddle to Bond.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,715
    You are most likely right, @bondjames. Purity will happen once Craig quits Bond, either after Bond 25 or Bond 26 (given these rumours of him signing a 2 picture deal).
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    Did DC ever think he was gone? He's never said anything to suggest this apart from those throw away wrist slasher comments.

    Obviously SP left his options open but I don't think anything ever suggested that in his own mind DC felt he was finished.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited August 2017 Posts: 23,883
    I think there was a time in 2016 when he was done with it. That squares with Mendes parting comments in early 2016 as well. If reports at the time are to be believed, his positive experiences during the Babs produced Othello made him reconsider his options.
  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    I still go back to an interview after SPECTRE was released. The interviewer said "we're going to miss you" and Craig replied "Well I'm not gone yet."
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    7 times total. Oh, did I just post that?
    7? Daniel is not doing 3 more at this stage.

    Oh yes he is!
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    edited August 2017 Posts: 3,277
    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I still go back to an interview after SPECTRE was released. The interviewer said "we're going to miss you" and Craig replied "Well I'm not gone yet."

    This one? :D

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    If DC is back, and I'm in the camp that wants him back, it gives me faith in him, if the rumours are true, that there was conflict between he and Mendes.

    Mendes is talented. He's an artist. But he took the grit away from his efforts (although, thankfully, DC was still able to portray some of it still); in short: Mendes, IMHO, "pussyfied" the Bond that was born from CR and grew in QoS...

    The blood was all but gone.

    And, if these rumours have even a shred of truth, I think that bodes well for DC's return. He's restless in SP and I think he wants to be more active and involved as a character. DC did appear very uncomfortable in more than one scene in the last film. All his screaming would be an example.

    The Bond from CR and QoS was a growler and a grunter (see stairwell fight in CR; Slate fight in QoS)... apart from that, he was quite controlled and quiet in demeanour.

    I want Craig, the actor, to have a juicy steak to bite into again, and; I want Bond, the character, to bleed again (albeit quietly...).


  • DonnyDB5DonnyDB5 Buffalo, New York
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    DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I still go back to an interview after SPECTRE was released. The interviewer said "we're going to miss you" and Craig replied "Well I'm not gone yet."

    This one? :D


    Yes! I've referenced that interview frequently.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    If we take the Showtime TCA seriously, then everything they said is a blatant lie, because Purity can't be delayed as there is nothing to delay.

    Work on the script has been on going for some time.

    If we believe Showtime, Purity is done filming already and will air within a few months. So how can they delay something that is already finished? Which obviously isn't true, since there are no actors attached to the project apart from Craig. So this means production is already over half-a-year late based on their previous filming schedule. Which begs the question that why has there been zero news, reports or even comment from Showtime that they are behind schedule, and only now that B25 has a release date they confirm the delay?
    antovolk wrote: »
    Showtime already had given an estimated production schedule for 'Purity', which cannot be delayed anymore. So either they were lying at the time or they are lying now.

    That's literally why the CEO said what he said about Craig. It CAN be delayed and it is being delayed because of B25

    Again: production for Purity has ended already according to their previous schedule, so how can they delay something that is completed? And since this is obviously a lie, because nothing has happened on Purity in over a year, why has there been no news or comments from Showtime they are over half-a-year late already, and we only hear about delays once B25 was confirmed for 2019?

    Either 1. production is already completed based on their previous schedule, so it can't be delayed, or 2. there is nothing to delay because Purity is a non-existent project.

    Franzen's books are notoriously unadaptable.
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    [quote[/u]="peter;769610"]@bondsum, I have no answers to your questions. I don't know what's going on in Craig's head. I was just pointing out that actual delays seem to be out of his control.

    And if the producers want to wait for an actor, or a director, that's absolutely their right. I don't have a say in that, one way or the other. They know what's going on behind the scenes. I don't.

    I also can't get in DC's head and surmise why he said what he said about the wrist-slashing comment, other than to say: it sounded like an ill-timed joke, by an actor who just finished a nine month shoot, which he came out of with a blown knee that required surgery.

    I personally didn't find it a funny, but I never once took it seriously either. Say what you want about Craig, but he wasn't trying to sabotage his, or his fellow cast and crew's, work on the film. My guess it was a joke from a guy who was tired.

    Unfortunately it's the quote heard around the world now, because people delight in the negative. The entire thing's been blown out of proportion. But, when the time comes, and if he is still Bond, it will be coming like a steam train, he will have to answer for it.

    Personally, I could care less. I love him in the role and welcome him back, as an admirer of his work in the role.

    If there is a new 007, I will have to accept that this will be the first actor to play the role who will be a younger man than myself (I'm 43). It'll be an interesting dynamic since Bond has been a character I've always looked up to and admired. [/quote]

    The "wrist-slashing" and that it would "only be for the money" and that "all I want to do is move on" as well as "I've been trying to get out of this since the moment I got in" are all comments taken from separate occasions, separate interviews at different times. Again, he's entitled to say what he wants so long as he makes good on his words, otherwise it just comes across as a hissy fit from a spoilt overpaid actor. Basically, I expect a little more decorum from the guy.

    The 007 actor being actually younger than myself has already come to pass with DC in the role, so I'm personally beyond that now. What does concern me more than anything else is that we're pretty much in the same age-bracket situation that Roger Moore found himself in with TSWLM. Sure, RM looked good, he was an incredibly handsome and fit man. The major difference was that Moore always played Bond without the worry of his advancing years creeping into the storyline, unlike Craig, where this has already been touched upon in SF. I just can't see it not cropping up again in the next movie, especially as Craig will look slightly physically older, plus the absence of an additional 4 years between movies. Okay, I acknowledge the Bibi and Bond scenes in FYEO as being an example of Bond being older, but it's soon forgotten come OP and AVTAK.

    I happen to like Craig very much as Bond, but not at the expense of believing he can keep going until he's 55 or whatever age he is when Bond 26 is finally finished (if we're to believe the rumors). The ideal age for casting an actor is early to middle Thirties, and then making sure you damn well use him every two to three years in a movie, before he begins to look like a lecherous old man perving after girls half his age.
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