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I think its more important that Bond 25 is a financial success for the future of the franchise, than a critical one.
Perhaps he had an agreement with Colbert that he was to tell the world on his show. It was still a bit unusual how it all came about during the day, with him starting off by saying no decisions had been made and what not.
@Mendes4Lyfe, again, your perception of things is faulty. I wouldn't hold you as a voice of reason for not getting carried away, as we can all rewind to last June when Turner's announcement was weeks away and we had to watch out for big changes from a "sneaky" EON with so much going on behind the scenes. Not important, though. Point being, I've seen no hype going on, nor a need to act so theatrically in the faces of those that like seeing Dan smiling. People are generally happy about this, like myself, and just relaxed that all the speculation is over, but that doesn't equal world changing hype. The comments you read are, "I hope Bond can be like CR and end the era on a high," and not "Bond 25 will be the best Bond movie ever!" Outside of that you have the reluctantly happy or modestly pleased, and the rest fall out after that. Where's this hype you speak of? If a party is to be thrown, it's when the movie comes and it turns out to be good, but you're really overreacting to all of it at this stage. I know it's seen as controversial to think of EON as anything other than hacks now, but let's reign it in a bit and get that clarity you seek to hold in high regard.
You also don't seem to know how you feel about Craig's control. At one point I recall you saying he didn't have a lot of a role in shaping his work, but now he's apparently the cinematographer, script writer, director, producer and stylist on Bond 25 all wrapped up in one and has EON by the strings and at his mercy. For someone who holds that Dan hasn't done much to reinvent anything or change the game in the franchise, you are certainly concerned about just how much of an impact he's had inside EON's power structure. How does that work?
Overall, one simply needs to understand the difference between people hyping things up and people simply being happy. If given the choice of being miserable and being optimistic, what do you think sane people would pick? It's also a weak postulation to say that, because no actors have finished their tenures well (which is only your perception, by the way), the same must also be true for Daniel. To use a basketball metaphor, if you shoot two hoops and miss, what's to say that you can't ring the third right into the basket? You're looking for patterns in an industry where no predictable patterns like that will exist or will be predictable to that degree. Best to wait it out, shove those tea leaves to the side and use the crystal ball for a paper weight instead.
For Craig to want to 'go out on a high' as he said, I'd imagine he wants an entry that is widely praised.
Thanks chaps...great news....and,without being greedy here,once he has 5 films under his belt and has a chance to equal Connery's 6,i bet he considers going for it.
But either way,its good news all round and he seems keen to make this film another classic like CR from what I have read.
Hopefully Bond 25 will be a much better ending to Craig's era.
@barryt007, here's the video and the quotes from Craig, if you haven't seen it:
I see this being it for Dan. Despite being one less than Sean, the length of his films will make his time in the role as long as Sean's, whether he has a sixth film or not. To me, it's quality over quantity, and it's already amazing that Dan has two bonafide classics to his name that are celebrated, which we haven't seen with the other actors since Sean, who is still hailed for GF largely and maybe FRWL after that to a lesser degree. Dan is in a good position, with a great legacy that hopefully 25 can only strengthen. He and EON have done a lot to set this set apart.
Brilliant stuff Brady...I cant see it here at work as its all blocked off but I will watch it when I get home..cheers pal !
He doesnt actually have to do it all for real you know? Its called the magic of cinema or do you really think Rog hung from an airship over San Francisco at the age of 57?
The Guvnor of shit films that cleaned up at the box office. Seriously what happened to James Cameron's career? Now he just makes glorified Universal Studios rides.
Turner long since ceased being credible round here, merely the punchline to an ongoing and increasingly tedious joke.
I actually agree that Craig has too much power (after all he was keen on brothergate) but casting Turner wouldnt change the fundamental problem that we desperately need better writers.
EON are like Jurgen Klopp - a lot about the team is talented and entertaining but there are key areas that need to be addressed before greatness will be within their grasp but for some reason everyone else can see it but the people calling the shots (although in the analogy of P&W being equal to Moreno and Minger I really dont know which of them should feel more insulted).
Yeah I find this whole thing a bit bizarre. Normally you would expect an official announcement from EON. Do we think they conned the Colbert people into shelling out for this exclusive scoop? If so EON are certainly shrewder at marketing than overseeing script development.
I was hoping for a fresh start but the more I think about it the more I can get behind this. It's only one more after all, and Daniel Craig doing YOLT in a film with the same passion and fire behind it that CR, SF and SP had seems too good an opportunity to pass up really.
I'm also excited because SP would've been a great ending but they were hesitant to ever call it as much. This time he's said this is it. So they'll be selling it as his last one, the big finale (maybe even the last EON Bond film if rumours are true? 25 is a nice round number) and with that in mind I can't wait to see how they end it. I have a feeling they're going to knock it out of the park again. The Craig films have been getting better and better since SF imo and I think this one has a chance of surprassing the Dalton films for me if they do YOLT justice.
I'm back, BABY..... :)
Anyway, it's certainly overshadowed anything related to Logan Lucky. If one googles Craig, the news is all about Bond.
And now Neal and Robert? Fucking write a damn good film! We need a Bond film that is as good or even better than SF and CR! And look at us fans! We know we can write a good story, now your turn! Welcome back Daniel!
Funnily enough I'm hoping for the complete opposite. Save the stand alone missions for the next guy. Now Craig is back they have to do YOLT. It's just the sort of gritty material he loves and if they pass it up who knows when they'll get the opportunity to do it again.
I want Bond in full ninja attire scaling the castle walls, sharks circling in the sea below him, while Blofeld wanders around in samurai armour screaming at the mercenaries he's hired to clean up the dead bodies of those who've killed themselves. It doesn't have to be a straight adaptation (except the garden of death), but I want it to be as bleak and surreal as the book.
It is, IMO, unlikely they will ignore the events in SP -- and I think they will be aiming to complete Craig's character arc from his beginnings in CR through to his final story in Bond 25. After that, with Bond 26 and a new Bond, we may return to the standalone OO7 adventures.
If you say it often enough maybe it will come true.
My own personal preference would be 'And now Neal and Robert please resign and dont ruin DC's last film'.
I would have no problem with Madeleine returning, in fact I think she should return (but definitely shouldn't die), but NO BLOFELD. Again: NO BLOFELD.
P.S. No David Arnold, please!!!
Money down Blofeld will be back. I cannot see them leaving that character hanging and without a payoff after SP - and also because this is Craig's final Bond to complete his arc.
I don't care. As long as Bond #25 will be a damn good story, with or without Blofeld
I don't know about you but I thought Rog was way too old in AVTAK.Creepily leering at the girl & geriatric fights with other old codgers. Stunt doubles don't solve everything, even when they're not in plain sight.
SP you mean ? he has only done one since SF,and you rate SP over the other three ?
Agree entirely.
Rog looked way to old and the warehouse fight in AVTAK is probably the worst action scene in the whole of Bond. But Dan looks in great shape and as long as you look the part the rest is called acting.
Good thing is that Craig probably won't be playing a double 0 in Bond 26. Didn't Bond leave MI6 at the end of Spectre for good?
As I say, my money is on Blofeld being in the mix, perhaps not up front, but he won't be ignored.
It's most likely they save the standalone missions for the next guy, it's just that I am so tired of Quantum/Spectre by now, that I would prefer a standalone mission. Still, I'd watch Christoph Waltz in samurai armour, fighting Craig!
Perhaps you are right. I am glad he's doing 1 more in any case.
How is Turner not credible as an angry Dalton type Bond? Much preferable to Hiddleston.