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I am absolutely with 001 on this one.
MB was way too old and LS is actually just acceptable but nothing really special.
I don't see the big deal about Bellucci. She was a true knockout stunner in the 90's but unfortunately I wasn't all that impressed by her in SP, even though her acting was very good. Seydoux certainly has the looks, but perhaps she should have had a non speaking role.
I think Lea Seydoux was a wonderful Bond-girl, regardless of the confusing and at times unbelievable storylines and badly explained plotholes. She completely shone during the Hoffler Clinic sequence. From a rather dominating doctor she believably turned into a scared, shivering, angry Honey Rider-esque woman. I compare Madeleine a lot with Honey ("I'm scared James"). She acted with gusto and credibility. That's one aspect I tend to disagree with a lot: The acting. Which IMO in SP was better than average and at times very good. Something we can't say of Denise Richards or Tanya Roberts. The latter two were merely portraying flat bimbo's.
'Bimbo', even if you were talking about their acting skills, is considered sexist. Not that I care you used it, but those 2 posts of yours are contradictory.
''An attractive but unintelligent or frivolous young woman'' is the definition of bimbo, by the way.
I see nothing sexist in my remarks.
Oh yes !!
(The rat up a drainpipe not the batting for the other side.)
My brain hurts now :(
This thread has become full of it.
There have been quite a few differences of opinions that have given me pause to reconsider my own thoughts.
My appreciation for Sir Rog has probably grown more so because of the love many have for him on this site.
Even if we don't agree, listening to and considering other viewpoints will open up one's own perspectives.
There's a useful 4-letter word....... ;)
You are right to a certain extend. But as others were referring merely to the looks of the actresses, I was also referring to the acting skills. And yes, if someone's role is written as a bimbo, that's sexist too.
@Peter My problem really is, that we are comparing a cameo (Stephanie Sigman) with a leading female role (Lea Seydoux). That's not entirely fair I think. Obviously we can complement someone for her good looks, but one can also exaggerate and say that Stephanie Sigman was much more credible as a Bond girl than Madeleine Swann; I find that a bit preposterous.
To defend Stephanie Sigman: In "Narcos"....That's where she was a wonderful actress. For that role she deserves credits...and perhaps a Golden Globe too. But....that little cameo in SP?
I used to not like Lazenby much and wanted Craig out after seeing Skyfall. But, that changed overtime and I like them both a lot more than I used to.
It's all down to a proper explanation rather than putting random words that hide an insult underneath their umbrellas just because the other doesn't agree with the former. I despise that. Sadly, we have more opinionated members here than we should, and dare I say, some are fight mongers here as well, endorsing attacks on one another in the process just because the opinions differ.
We can't all be reasonable, see? Ah well.
If anything happens however, MI6 has a lawyer we could always use. ;)
Precisely, @barryt007. ;)
Nothing I said was sexist. Perhaps you should re-read what I said.
If you're offended I complimented her as a smoke show, am I mistaken that you made a similar observation of Yann Demange? Should I say you objectified him (since you commented only on his looks, and not his talent)?
No I wouldn't and certainly not because I am not interested in women. It's a matter of taste end of this taste staying a constant. Just because I grow older I don't have to change the way I perceive women's attractiveness.
Nono, I wasn't offended hehe :-). Just, my opinion....to me acting is very important too. I just found Sigman's acting too little to turn it into such a huge compliment.
On the other hand, I am having post edited for content at work and I made sure my female manager is now listening to me as well. Spanish culture and Dutch culture: Man, that's pretty damn hard sometimes.
https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/18300/moderating-the-forum#latest
Neither of them come close to Berenice though. She's my favourite Bond girl. Biggest flaw in SF is that they didn't give her more screentime.
As DaltonBond would say : "Better make thattttttttttt two"..
It's not like there's anything more to discuss about B25 at this moment anyway, until the much rumoured announcement of a 'two parter' is made sometime this month (according to one forum source). It will be a drip, drip, drip for a few months yet imho. The 2nd comment on page one of this thread still remains the most notabe one here, along with the announcement of the release date and Craig's return.
Having said all that, I will respect your wishes and refrain from commenting further on which SP babe I liked the most @jake24.
Those 2 words are enough to put me off that idea,sorry matey,i cant face another film like that,Bond or not.
I don't think we'll see Bond sleeping around much. This is Craig after all, and he's commented negatively on the character's pursuits in that regard. If this is his self proclaimed 'high' I think he won't want that to be an essential part of the character's progress.
Vengeance, solace and acceptance may be what they go for, but I think whatever they do the public will inevitably compare it to SF. Watch for that to be the discussion in two years time when the film is released.