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Should There Be Another Foot Chase in Bond 23?

The_ReaperThe_Reaper
edited July 2011 in Skyfall Posts: 1,092
These location threads have got me thinking. I like that each Craig film has a foot chase near the beggining of the film. I'd like to see another for the next film. It could be a nice continuity link for his era. Years from now, I can imagine us having "What is your favorite Craig Footchase?" threads. That would be cool. So I'm for it.

Anyone?
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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited July 2011 Posts: 13,978
    No more foot chases... give them a break. Otherwise they might as well hire Tom Cruise for Bond instead.
  • JBFan626JBFan626
    Posts: 1,497
    Yeah, no more foot chases. QOS already felt redundant with it's foot chase scene. Less action filler the better.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    If there is a villain/traitor who flees what else would Bond do? Fast walk? If the script demands it do it.
  • actonsteveactonsteve
    Posts: 1,492
    I have loved the footchases so far. The Siena one was great with the chased/chaser slipping on the terracotta tiles and the CR one gave me vertigo on the big screen.

    If it fits the story then yes...go for it.
  • Monsieur_AubergineMonsieur_Aubergine Top of the Eiffel Tower with a fly in my soup!
    Posts: 642
    If there is going to be one let's see a revival of the lost OHMSS footchase across London.
  • JBFan626JBFan626
    Posts: 1,497
    If there is going to be one let's see a revival of the lost OHMSS footchase across London.
    Wow, I have never heard of this before. Was this filmed or just in the script?

  • Monsieur_AubergineMonsieur_Aubergine Top of the Eiffel Tower with a fly in my soup!
    edited July 2011 Posts: 642
    There are stills of it and a very strong back story of it being dropped due to timing issues after all the film is over 130ins. It was due to take place at the college where bond discovers him and Hilary bray are being listened into whilst setting their plan for Switzerland. Just wish they'd left it in...a wish for the next bond box set maybe? If it could only be found.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited July 2011 Posts: 13,355
    If the script demands it do it.
    That's my stance too. If EON feel the need for another one there must be good reason and it must fit the story. Having one in India for the next film's PTS could be the best thing in the entire film for all we know, so let's see what they do first.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Exactly @Samuel001. The beginning chase in CR is not only thrilling but one of the best thrills of the series. The QoS chase is also equally glorious. Chase scenes in Craig's Bond aren't just filler, they fit the story like you said and continue on the plot. I'd love to see one in Bond 23 and 24.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    I do wonder how a film could open with a foot chance without any explanation of what's happening, though maybe that's the charm of it all? I must say, having the gun barrel iris open on Bond running down the street after someone with India as a backdrop would be pretty thrilling, especially after four years.
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,848
    i like the idea of an India foot chase with tons of explosions around bond that description made me quite happy. hope it's true.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    Posts: 4,399
    i agree with a few others here as well........ if it fits the script, then do it - but don't force a chase in if it's not needed..

    the foot chase with the free runner in CR was amazing.. but i actually prefer the chase in QOS between Bond and Mitchell - using the horse race as a backdrop to cut into....... plus, i love how it ends, with Bond twirling around and firing one shot - just as Mitchell was about to pull the trigger.... quite an amazing sequence.
  • dragonskydragonsky
    Posts: 2,491
    actually i am not fan of the foot chases but if they made it really good why not
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,981
    I love the foot chases. If not a foot chase, give me a brutal hand-to-hand fight like in QoS. Bourne-like, I know, but that was probably one of my favorite kills in the Bond series.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Slate in Haiti Creasy?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,981
    Yeah. Just him being ambushed to using a makeshift weapon, all in a tiny room. Intense thirty seconds or so.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I agree. I love the ferocity of the fight, reminiscent of the Bourne films where the action is so intense and the fight like a dance. The scene is well constructed and so suspenseful. Bond is at the door, looks in seeing nothing then out comes Slate. The two exchange slashes and punches and when Bond and Slate tumble out on the patio the action gets even better. I love when Bond punctures Slate's leg with his own knife and swats his hands away as he falls limp. Very cold, but very thrilling indeed.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,981
    And as he holds Slate's leg up, he just looks around as the life fades out of his body. Goes back in, wipes the blood off, uses a shirt as a bandage, steals a jacket, keys, a briefcase, and leaves. Classic. It all happens so quick that I realize he insults this man in so many ways in less than three minutes.

    Just like Dimitrios in CR. Bond beats him in poker, gets his money, gets his car, takes his woman, foils his plan on the airport (twice), stabs him...and gives him a little pat on the face. Craig's Bond really does love to intimidate and embarass his enemies, in life and in death. Even Greene, just leaving him in the desert, essentially forcing the inevitability of using motor oil as a drink on him. It's priceless.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Yeah Craig's Bond sure teaches baddies a lesson. Too bad none of them ever have the chance to learn from it. HA HA.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    I absoluetly loved the Madagascar foot chase in Casino Roayle. That scene will go down in Bond history just as much as the laser scene in Goldfinger! That is the correct way to do a foot chase. However, I disliked the Quantum of Solace foot chase with Mitchell. The camera work was much too fast and confusing. It butchered an otherwise fantastic foot chase.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,981
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 They sure don't, haha. Nor will they ever.

    @00Beast, I really enjoyed all the jumps in the QoS foot chase scene (especially him nearly falling off the roof, just to jump, smash into the wall, and keep going), but the Madagascar scene is way better. So many excellent shots. One of my favorites is when the camera is low to the ground, and as Mollaka jumps from the little elevator thing he is on, Bond is way up behind him, jumping onto the conveyor thing (beautiful description, ehh?) that he has to smash with a wrench to get down to Mollaka's height.

    That, and where he slides on the ground and falls down the floor hole after Mollaka jumps from the wall inside the elevator shaft.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited July 2011 Posts: 15,718
    No more footchases... We've had both CR and QOS start after the PTS with the same kind of chase, do we need the franchise to fall further into cliche land ? The movie-starting-with-footchase is getting cliched... Give us something new instead of a footchase to please the MTV kiddie crowd that fall to sleep when too much talking... I thought people wanted another GF or TB, not another Statham flick...
    Chase scenes in Craig's Bond aren't just filler, they fit the story like you said and continue on the plot
    QUE ?? Sorry ? What purpose did the Siena chase serve in QOS other than a pointless foot chase ? What purpose served the boat chase ? Or even the plane chase ? They made another DAD with QOS - in the sense of another movie that has action scenes that doesn't move the story forward just for the heck of it... QOS privileged the action over the story... sorry but that's the truth... I'm pretty sure the same plot could have been made with more talking (better) and less action scenes (better). How QOS desperatly needed the (pointless) action scenes to move the plot forward is beyond me. It's proof that the plot in QOS was utter rubbish... They wrote themselves into corners every 15 pages, so they added action scenes here and there to fill in the plot gaps.

    The action scenes in QOS are just like the cellphones in CR... They just happen to be there to manage to make the plot go forward.... when a bit more thought in the writing could have found a more original way for the plot to move forward...
  • shadowonthesunshadowonthesun Banned
    Posts: 1,894
    I wouldn't object to a footchase, provided it's done right. There's plenty of ways that it could be done in a fresh way. For example, Bond chases a villain through underground caves wearing night vision goggles, but minerals in the rocks interfere with the goggles' ability to work properly, and so Bond and the villain can only see when there is movement in front of them.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited July 2011 Posts: 4,521
    Something like this for Bond 24

    But i think it is time for a good/long ''car'' chase.








  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,981
    Nothing can beat that Bullitt chase sequence.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    As long as the foot chase is genuinely exciting and not there to fill in narrative gaps then I suppose thats ok.

    Just as long as they keep the camera still for longer for 3 seconds ;)
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,718
    As long as the foot chase is genuinely exciting and not there to fill in narrative gaps then I suppose thats ok.
    That's EXACTLY one of the main problem with QOS... Everytime there was a gap in the plot, they added a chase to fill it in...
  • ChuckChuck
    Posts: 212
    I guess if it's absolutely necessary in the script it would be okay, but I would prefer they do something different. Granted, I thought that they did improve the chase scenes from CR to QOS (I've never been a fan of the CR free-running sequence), but I would say that both chases have been the weakest of the action sequences in their respective films, so I could very much go without yet another one in BOND 23.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    No more footchases... We've had both CR and QOS start after the PTS with the same kind of chase, do we need the franchise to fall further into cliche land ? The movie-starting-with-footchase is getting cliched... Give us something new instead of a footchase to please the MTV kiddie crowd that fall to sleep when too much talking... I thought people wanted another GF or TB, not another Statham flick...
    Chase scenes in Craig's Bond aren't just filler, they fit the story like you said and continue on the plot
    QUE ?? Sorry ? What purpose did the Siena chase serve in QOS other than a pointless foot chase ? What purpose served the boat chase ? Or even the plane chase ? They made another DAD with QOS - in the sense of another movie that has action scenes that doesn't move the story forward just for the heck of it... QOS privileged the action over the story... sorry but that's the truth... I'm pretty sure the same plot could have been made with more talking (better) and less action scenes (better). How QOS desperatly needed the (pointless) action scenes to move the plot forward is beyond me. It's proof that the plot in QOS was utter rubbish... They wrote themselves into corners every 15 pages, so they added action scenes here and there to fill in the plot gaps.

    The action scenes in QOS are just like the cellphones in CR... They just happen to be there to manage to make the plot go forward.... when a bit more thought in the writing could have found a more original way for the plot to move forward...
    Well said sir. I would happily lose both the boat and plane chase for just 5 minutes more dialogue.

  • actonsteveactonsteve
    Posts: 1,492

    QUE ?? Sorry ? What purpose did the Siena chase serve in QOS other than a pointless foot chase ?
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    They just happen to be there to manage to make the plot go forward.... .
    You just have answered your own question.


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