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Are the Komodo Dragons the silliest things in the Craig era so far?

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  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Why is everyone so voliatle of late? I'm seeing far too much of these threads turning mean and personal.
    I concur. Sadly.



    Maybe folks just get fired up when there's a new movie, either because they loved it or they were disappointed?
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    Soundofthesinners wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Why is everyone so voliatle of late? I'm seeing far too much of these threads turning mean and personal.
    I concur. Sadly.



    Maybe folks just get fired up when there's a new movie, either because they loved it or they were disappointed?

    True ..hey does anybody remember the name of the comic that featured the freefall I mentioned?
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited January 2016 Posts: 9,117
    TripAces wrote: »
    Nobody should have to rigorously defend a preference for anything in the series.

    You see you're a more forgiving chap than me.

    The above statement sounds all nice and warm and fluffy but is patently absurd.

    If someone comes out and says 'the tsunami sequence in DAD is the best action scene in all of Bond' then they shouldn't be given a free pass; they should be called out on it and given a verbal kicking.

    It might even be a crime to have such an opinion as at the very least it could constitute a breach of the peace and it might even be incitement to violence because it encourages people to set about you with sticks and bicycle chains.

    @mcdonbb may not be quite as inflammatory but he certainly deserves to be told he's wrong.

    The day we start not merely accepting but actually preferring CGI over real stunts is the day Bond dies and just becomes another standard action franchise.
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Soundofthesinners wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Why is everyone so voliatle of late? I'm seeing far too much of these threads turning mean and personal.
    I concur. Sadly.



    Maybe folks just get fired up when there's a new movie, either because they loved it or they were disappointed?

    True ..hey does anybody remember the name of the comic that featured the freefall I mentioned?

    Would that be the one where Bond ends up fighting dinosaurs in a massive eco dome? I seem to remember a freefall sequence off a waterfall. Can't for the life of me remember the title but it was Dark Horse circa mid to late 90s.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,125
    I don't think the free fall in QOS was the silliest thing of the Craig era either. The sloppiest thing, maybe. But not the silliest. Although when it comes to sloppy, the scaffolding fall before the scaffolding fight in the same movie, that was also CGI, is sloppier IMO. It simply does not look right.

    The silliest thing might the fall into a sofa in the PTS of SP. That said, I don't mind that bit of silliness.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited January 2016 Posts: 4,116
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Nobody should have to rigorously defend a preference for anything in the series.

    You see you're a more forgiving chap than me.

    The above statement sounds all nice and warm and fluffy but is patently absurd.

    If someone comes out and says 'the tsunami sequence in DAD is the best action scene in all of Bond' then they shouldn't be given a free pass; they should be called out on it and given a verbal kicking.

    It might even be a crime to have such an opinion as at the very least it could constitute a breach of the peace and it might even be incitement to violence because it encourages people to set about you with sticks and bicycle chains.

    @mcdonbb may not be quite as inflammatory but he certainly deserves to be told he's wrong.

    The day we start not merely accepting but actually preferring CGI over real stunts is the day Bond dies and just becomes another standard action franchise.
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Soundofthesinners wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Why is everyone so voliatle of late? I'm seeing far too much of these threads turning mean and personal.
    I concur. Sadly.



    Maybe folks just get fired up when there's a new movie, either because they loved it or they were disappointed?

    True ..hey does anybody remember the name of the comic that featured the freefall I mentioned?

    Would that be the one where Bond ends up fighting dinosaurs in a massive eco dome? I seem to remember a freefall sequence off a waterfall. Can't for the life of me remember the title but it was Dark Horse circa mid to late 90s.

    No it's not Serpent's Tooth but you're right it around the same time and publisher.

    Call out when I'm wrong? Really?

    Both freefall sequences were sloppy btw so let's take that variable off the table.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Nobody should have to rigorously defend a preference for anything in the series.

    You see you're a more forgiving chap than me.

    The above statement sounds all nice and warm and fluffy but is patently absurd.

    If someone comes out and says 'the tsunami sequence in DAD is the best action scene in all of Bond' then they shouldn't be given a free pass; they should be called out on it and given a verbal kicking.

    It might even be a crime to have such an opinion as at the very least it could constitute a breach of the peace and it might even be incitement to violence because it encourages people to set about you with sticks and bicycle chains.

    @mcdonbb may not be quite as inflammatory but he certainly deserves to be told he's wrong.

    The day we start not merely accepting but actually preferring CGI over real stunts is the day Bond dies and just becomes another standard action franchise.
    mcdonbb wrote: »
    Soundofthesinners wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Why is everyone so voliatle of late? I'm seeing far too much of these threads turning mean and personal.
    I concur. Sadly.



    Maybe folks just get fired up when there's a new movie, either because they loved it or they were disappointed?

    True ..hey does anybody remember the name of the comic that featured the freefall I mentioned?

    Would that be the one where Bond ends up fighting dinosaurs in a massive eco dome? I seem to remember a freefall sequence off a waterfall. Can't for the life of me remember the title but it was Dark Horse circa mid to late 90s.

    No it's not Serpent's Tooth but you're right it around the same time and publisher.

    Call out when I'm wrong? Really?

    Both freefall sequences were sloppy btw so let's take that variable off the table.

    MR sloppy? You're deluded, man.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    Murdock wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Why is everyone so voliatle of late? I'm seeing far too much of these threads turning mean and personal.

    It happens from time to time. I remember it happening after Skyfall came out. I have no idea why it gets so toxic around here sometimes. It's pretty sad. But I stay positive and try to inject humor into everything to lighten the mood around here.

    Oh shut up! (Just kidding.)
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    He reminds me of the admiral in GE when he's about to die :))
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    "Khan, I can't breathe!"
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited January 2016 Posts: 4,116
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Why is everyone so voliatle of late? I'm seeing far too much of these threads turning mean and personal.

    It happens from time to time. I remember it happening after Skyfall came out. I have no idea why it gets so toxic around here sometimes. It's pretty sad. But I stay positive and try to inject humor into everything to lighten the mood around here.

    Oh shut up! (Just kidding.)
    giphy.gif

    He reminds me of the admiral in GE when he's about to die :))

    =)) Z..z.Zenya ...arrrgh
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    mcdonbb wrote: »

    Both freefall sequences were sloppy btw so let's take that variable off the table.

    I'm afraid you're still completely wrong.

    You seem to be equating a stupid moment of humour after an amazing stunt sequence with something that didn't even attempt to be good because the moment you say 'let's just do it with CGI' you've given up on impressing the audience.

    MR's sequence was not sloppy it was technically staggering and then spoiled by a stupid gag at the end. If the scene ended when Bond pulled the ripcord your wobbling argument wouldn't have the slightest leg to stand on.

    QOS's is a fantastic concept but the moment they decide not to do it for real it's just an embarrassment. If they had just filmed the QOS scene like they had the MR one then it could have likely been one of the best sequences of all time - and that's the real tragedy.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I wonder how much new and rigorous safety rules have to do with it.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited January 2016 Posts: 4,116
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    mcdonbb wrote: »

    Both freefall sequences were sloppy btw so let's take that variable off the table.

    I'm afraid you're still completely wrong.

    You seem to be equating a stupid moment of humour after an amazing stunt sequence with something that didn't even attempt to be good because the moment you say 'let's just do it with CGI' you've given up on impressing the audience.

    MR's sequence was not sloppy it was technically staggering and then spoiled by a stupid gag at the end. If the scene ended when Bond pulled the ripcord your wobbling argument wouldn't have the slightest leg to stand on.

    QOS's is a fantastic concept but the moment they decide not to do it for real it's just an embarrassment. If they had just filmed the QOS scene like they had the MR one then it could have likely been one of the best sequences of all time - and that's the real tragedy.

    I can see the chutes. But seriously I'm done with this conversation. You made your point. You win.

    I enjoyed both sequences.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    But you can t see the CGI?
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    edited January 2016 Posts: 4,116
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    But you can t see the CGI?

    Did I say that? I said both were sloppy or could be argued as sloppy.

    I'm seriously done with this conversation.
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
    edited January 2016 Posts: 1,138
    I think they also used then state-of-art cameras to actually shoot that scene.

    They didn't "actually shoot" that scene though. And it's obvious that they didn't actually shoot it. That's why it's terrible. If you think that the QoS has more realism or is more believable because you can "see the parachutes"....well perhaps you're trying to be ironic. Because the fact taht the QoS scene is fake is far, far more obvious than the parachutes in MR.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Haha, this should go in the controversial thread apparently.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    Sark wrote: »
    I think they also used then state-of-art cameras to actually shoot that scene.

    They didn't "actually shoot" that scene though. And it's obvious that they didn't actually shoot it. That's why it's terrible. If you think that the QoS has more realism or is more believable because you can "see the parachutes"....well perhaps you're trying to be ironic. Because the fact taht the QoS scene is fake is far, far more obvious than the parachutes in MR.

    They actually shot it in a wind tunnel with a real life camera.

    Y'all are missing my point. I NEVER SAID I DIDNT LIKE THE MR SEQUENCE NOR DID I SAY I DONT APPRECIATE THE SKILL EXHIBITED IN THAT SEQUENCE.

    I SIMPLY STATED I PREFERED THE HARDER EDGE OF THE QS SEQUENCE.

    AND I SAID NOT BY MUCH SO THE STUNT WORK SIGNIFICANTLY OFF SET THE CLOWN ELEMENTS IN THE MR SEQUENCE FOR ME.

    And again ME ..MY OPINION MY OPINION.

    IM AM DONE WITH THIS CONVERSATION AND CLOSE TO BEING WITH THIS FORUM.

    Thanks ..I get you're right now move on.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    mcdonbb wrote: »

    Thanks ..I get you're right now move on.

    There you go. Wasn't so hard to admit was it?!!
  • AnthraxAnthrax Sweden
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    I thought the Komodo Dragons were fine, it was the old lady during the footchase in QoS that got me.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Anthrax wrote: »
    I thought the Komodo Dragons were fine, it was the old lady during the footchase in QoS that got me.

    Yea I with you there. At least she wasn't CGI.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited January 2016 Posts: 15,125
    What's so wrong with the old lady in QOS? People complained the movie lacked humour, there is something funny happening, then people are unhappy.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    Ludovico wrote: »
    What's so wrong with the old lady in QOS? People complained the movie lacked humour, there is something funny happening, then people are unhappy.

    Nothing really ..they may have lingered on her a bit too long but truly not a big deal.
  • gumboltgumbolt Now with in-office photocopier
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    I have always found Bond's rapid recovery from cardiac arrest in CR a bit silly. It was very dramatic but cardiac arrest between hands of poker?
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
    Posts: 4,116
    gumbolt wrote: »
    I have always found Bond's rapid recovery from cardiac arrest in CR a bit silly. It was very dramatic but cardiac arrest between hands of poker?

    He's James Bond ..only nad trauma slows him down :D
  • Tuck91Tuck91
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    For me I still to this day think its silly we didnt get to see what Greene told Bond about Quantum.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Yeah why didn't Bond find out about SPECTRE then? Obviously I know because they hadn't won rights back yet but if you think about it.
  • daltondalton
    edited January 2016 Posts: 1,631
    I'd argue that the silliest thing in the Craig films is the lame attempt to retcon Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, and Skyfall into one big SPECTRE plot of personal revenge against Bond and have the villain supposedly behind it all be featured in only three scenes the entire time.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    dalton wrote: »
    I'd argue that the silliest thing in the Craigp films is the lame attempt to retcon Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, and Skyfall into one big SPECTRE plot of personal revenge against Bond and have the villain supposedly behind it all be featured in only three scenes the entire time.

    Yup
  • gumboltgumbolt Now with in-office photocopier
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    Yes the Blofeld angle was a bit contrived. To be fair, I think that Blofeld does suggest in the control room scene that Bond interfered in his plans first, forcing retaliation - I don't think that Blofeld expressly suggests that he planned it all as personal revenge from his teens. Even then, the whole childhood background is just so hammy.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Would have worked better for me had they only included the Quantum movies not SF.

    Just seemed like such a bad execution to make Blofeld more menacing than he was played or written.
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