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Are the Komodo Dragons the silliest things in the Craig era so far?

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  • Matt007Matt007
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    Maybe it was Michael G Wilson in drag?
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Look, the komodo dragons were nothing compared to the Italian lady lamenting her broken jars of tomatoes or whatever. We're in the middle of a chase, one that's difficult to follow as it is, and now I'm pulled out of the action by an old lady and some broken glass. That's silly. The dragons? I'm fine with those.

    I'm fine with the old Italian lady too. Don't know why, I just find it... Italian. Hence I forgive the silliness.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    The komodo dragons didn't bother me.

    This did, though: Fields ridiculously holding the bed sheet across her chest to cover her breasts. There were probably a hundred better positions to put her in to do this naturally. Whose dumb idea was this?
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    These two moments from the construction site chase rank right up there, as well:

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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Not silly perhaps but deadly:

    http://jamesbondmemes.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/how-dangerous-are-skyfalls-komodo.html
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited February 2015 Posts: 1,596
    Bad silly:

    - lady in QOS wailing during chase
    - parachute jump in QOS
    - That shameless Goldfinger reference

    Good silly:

    - The dragons
    - The cufflinks (although I don't find that silly - simply Bond)
    - Most of the "silly" Skyfall quips I liked as well. But that's just Bond.

    And yes, notice how all of the "Bad" ones are in one particular film and the "Good" ones are in another. Mendes knows a HELL of a lot more about how to handle levity than Forster.

    As @DarthDimi mentioned, it's mostly about context. In QOS an impossibly difficult to follow chase scene, scored with grit, a grunting Bond, and bloody characters, is broken up by THAT WOMAN.

    In SKYFALL we're at this exotic, luxurious and somewhat outlandish casino, there's 45 minutes of film preceding this scene setting up the tone. This is an entirely different world, and Craig is playing a different Bond (one I enjoy more). It's a gorgeous casino, bordering on fantastic, Bond and Eve share much banter, he toasts to the body guards, the "one second" with the briefcase followed by the brawl. It's all wonderfully handled and perfectly Bond. One of my favorite set pieces from the Craig era.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
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    Personally I loved the dragon scene. Nice nod to LALD and executed well imo.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    They could not actually step on a dragon these days with all the animal rights organizations around.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    My main problem with the CGI komodo dragons is that it shits all over the stunt it is supposedly a homage to. Real danger and tension replaced by computer graphics. Insulting.

    I hear you. Special effects and CGI these days have taken the human work and element out of the equation. Ray Harryhausen would have no place in today's Hollywood.

    At the same time, if the technology is there, and it prevents stuntmen from doing things like stepping on crocodiles, then why not use it?
  • RC7RC7
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    TripAces wrote: »
    At the same time, if the technology is there, and it prevents stuntmen from doing things like stepping on crocodiles, then why not use it?

    Stuntmen want to do that kind of crazy shit. It all comes down to £££.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Plus: The crocodiles deserve it, those BASTARDS!
  • jobojobo
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    They could not actually step on a dragon these days with all the animal rights organizations around.

    Yes, EON didn't want to get in trouble again after all the horrible things they did to that pigeon.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    They could not actually step on a dragon these days with all the animal rights organizations around.

    That, and komodo dragons are dangerous creatures. So are alligators, thus I seriously doubt a scene like the one in LALD would be possible nowadays with real animals.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    jobo wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    They could not actually step on a dragon these days with all the animal rights organizations around.

    Yes, EON didn't want to get in trouble again after all the horrible things they did to that pigeon.

    No animal was harmed more than the rat who had to sniff Connery while he smelled like a tarts handkerchief.
  • jobojobo
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    They could not actually step on a dragon these days with all the animal rights organizations around.

    Yes, EON didn't want to get in trouble again after all the horrible things they did to that pigeon.

    No animal was harmed more than the rat who had to sniff Connery while he smelled like a tarts handkerchief.

    That is true, but the pigeon seems to get more attention ;)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Agreed.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    I have no problem with the Dragons. I thought they were pretty cool and menacing. They looked as real as the crocs in LALD (they were real)
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
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    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    They could not actually step on a dragon these days with all the animal rights organizations around.

    True.
    Birdleson wrote: »
    My main problem with the CGI komodo dragons is that it shits all over the stunt it is supposedly a homage to. Real danger and tension replaced by computer graphics. Insulting.

    Good point. I suppose my argument was that I really enjoyed the spirit of it. I didn't find it "Bad Silliness" for that reason.
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    edited February 2015 Posts: 2,015
    RC7 wrote: »
    JCRendle wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    'He hacked us!' - I just hate this. I hate it. It was dated in 2012, I imagine it'll just get worse.
    Tell this to Sony ;)

    I hope someone in the head office shouted that line.

    And just before that, we see some secretary scanning the papers with the big "do not scan" on warning it :)
  • AstonLotusAstonLotus
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    The dragon scene in SF always reminds me of Return Of the Jedis Rancor scene.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    LALD Croc farm homage without a doubt!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I think Mendes has said that
    LALD is his favourite Bond film.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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    Komodo Dragons are animal versions of Naomi Harris.

    Moost sillies things from Daniel Craig era:

    CR: Solange and Astin Martin joke.
    QOS: Boat chase
    SF: Elevator scene
  • jobojobo
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    I honestly don't get how the elevator scene in Skyfall is silly? :-?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Me, neither. Well done nod to DAF.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    edited February 2015 Posts: 15,125
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Me, neither. Well done nod to DAF.

    I don't think it was a nod. If it was, it was a strange nod, as it was far more tense.
  • JCRendleJCRendle
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    M_Balje wrote: »
    Komodo Dragons are animal versions of Naomi Harris.
    Please explain?
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Moost sillies things from Daniel Craig era:

    CR: Solange and Astin Martin joke.
    Please explain?
    M_Balje wrote: »
    QOS: Boat chase
    Please explain?
    M_Balje wrote: »
    SF: Elevator scene
    Please... well, you get the idea
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    JCRendle wrote: »
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Komodo Dragons are animal versions of Naomi Harris.
    Please explain?
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Moost sillies things from Daniel Craig era:

    CR: Solange and Astin Martin joke.
    Please explain?
    M_Balje wrote: »
    QOS: Boat chase
    Please explain?
    M_Balje wrote: »
    SF: Elevator scene
    Please... well, you get the idea

    I think it simply translates into; "I don't like Daniel Craig and his films" ;)
  • JCRendleJCRendle
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    jobo wrote: »
    JCRendle wrote: »
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Komodo Dragons are animal versions of Naomi Harris.
    Please explain?
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Moost sillies things from Daniel Craig era:

    CR: Solange and Astin Martin joke.
    Please explain?
    M_Balje wrote: »
    QOS: Boat chase
    Please explain?
    M_Balje wrote: »
    SF: Elevator scene
    Please... well, you get the idea

    I think it simply translates into; "I don't like Daniel Craig and his films" ;)
    The bit I'm most confused by is the Naomi Harris/Komodo Dragon comment. Completely out of the blue.

  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited February 2015 Posts: 4,585
    The only (minor) things I find silly in SF are in the PTS:

    1. The rearview mirrors attempt at humor ("I wasn't using that one either") seemed off base considering the gravity of the situation.
    2. The overturned fruit stands in the bazaar...cliche cliche cliche
    3. The train: somehow, despite a gun fight, despite VW Beetles being knocked off the cargo car by a caterpillar (something M could hear via radio feed), despite train cars being uncoupled...the passengers are nicely glued to their seats and the train conductor has no idea what's going on?

    I don't get the elevator criticisms. As others have said: great nod to DAF. And it's well within the bounds of Bond's abilities.

  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    :))
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