Is the entire second half of Die Another Day the silliest part of Brosnan's era?

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  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Kerim wrote: »
    Pierce's Kiss of Death becoming the kiss of life for Jinx.
    It was a kiss of life for Wai Lin as well.
    But that was in a Wai better film.
    :D
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Ludovico wrote: »

    Was it the bullet-time gunbarrel sequence, Bond having a beer gut after 18 months of torture in a Korean jail, Bond stopping his heart or Bond entering in the Hong Kong hotel looking like a hobo?

    Spot on, old man. Can't understand why anyone would think the first half of DAD is fine. The scene where Bond strolls into the hotel in his jammy bottoms is a bloody disgrace.

    I actually like the scene. Bond is a complete mess but he strolls in, dignified like he owns the place and makes his typical requests for the best and then next scene, he's brand new and shiny again.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »

    Was it the bullet-time gunbarrel sequence, Bond having a beer gut after 18 months of torture in a Korean jail, Bond stopping his heart or Bond entering in the Hong Kong hotel looking like a hobo?

    Spot on, old man. Can't understand why anyone would think the first half of DAD is fine. The scene where Bond strolls into the hotel in his jammy bottoms is a bloody disgrace.

    I actually like the scene. Bond is a complete mess but he strolls in, dignified like he owns the place and makes his typical requests for the best and then next scene, he's brand new and shiny again.

    Yep. That was the beauty of it.
  • chrisisall wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »

    Was it the bullet-time gunbarrel sequence, Bond having a beer gut after 18 months of torture in a Korean jail, Bond stopping his heart or Bond entering in the Hong Kong hotel looking like a hobo?

    Spot on, old man. Can't understand why anyone would think the first half of DAD is fine. The scene where Bond strolls into the hotel in his jammy bottoms is a bloody disgrace.

    I actually like the scene. Bond is a complete mess but he strolls in, dignified like he owns the place and makes his typical requests for the best and then next scene, he's brand new and shiny again.

    Yep. That was the beauty of it.

    He's always James Bond, no matter how crazy things around him get. Shaken, but not stirred.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    He looked like George lazenby in 1970, but he quickly recovered;)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    He looked like George lazenby in 1970, but he quickly recovered;)

    =))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    IMHO there is not a silly moment in DAD that can be compared to "Here's to us" in MR. That's the bottom of the gunbarrel in terms of Bond.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Brosnan as Bond. How much sillier can it get?
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    doubleoego wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »

    Was it the bullet-time gunbarrel sequence, Bond having a beer gut after 18 months of torture in a Korean jail, Bond stopping his heart or Bond entering in the Hong Kong hotel looking like a hobo?

    Spot on, old man. Can't understand why anyone would think the first half of DAD is fine. The scene where Bond strolls into the hotel in his jammy bottoms is a bloody disgrace.

    I actually like the scene. Bond is a complete mess but he strolls in, dignified like he owns the place and makes his typical requests for the best and then next scene, he's brand new and shiny again.

    Yep. That was the beauty of it.

    He's always James Bond, no matter how crazy things around him get. Shaken, but not stirred.


    James Bond would never stroll into a posh hotel were the staff knows who he is and his real name, ensuring the maximum amount of attention, if he knew MI6 was looking for him! ~X(

    And with a shave the repercussions of over a year of torture swiftly disappears. Gillette really is the best a man can get...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Yes, he was allowed plenty of cheeseburgers and Heineken, but NO SHAVES OR HAIRCUTS!
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    Yes, North Koreans are masters in the art of torture...
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    Yes, he was allowed plenty of cheeseburgers and Heineken, but NO SHAVES OR HAIRCUTS!

    Like I have read a long time ago, in the old forums: "Speak Mr Bond, or we will make you eat another sausage."
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I don't know about YOU guys, but I JUST saw DAD and he was not 'fat' in it by ANY stretch of the imagination.
    However, after that amount of time in the NK slam, he wasn't as emaciated as I'd expect either... ;)
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    Yea, more "healthy" than fat, though it could be argued that the North Koreans didn't starve him as they needed him to have enough strength to withstand the torture without actually dying - prolonging the pain and suffering with hopes of making him talk.

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    JCRendle wrote: »
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    Yea, more "healthy" than fat, though it could be argued that the North Koreans didn't starve him as they needed him to have enough strength to withstand the torture without actually dying - prolonging the pain and suffering with hopes of making him talk.

    I'd agree to this theory! :)>-
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Silliest part of the Brosnan era was how they managed to spoil the big reveals almost everytime. Surely giving Sean Bean the 2nd billing in the main titles sequence made everyone know that he'd be back later on in the film. And of course Elektra as the villain was spoiled in the trailer! b-(
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    Silliest part of the Brosnan era was how they managed to spoil the big reveals almost everytime. Surely giving Sean Bean the 2nd billing in the main titles sequence made everyone know that he'd be back later on in the film. And of course Elektra as the villain was spoiled in the trailer! b-(

    In DAD they manage to hide it pretty well though. I mean, who could possibly guess that Graves was actually Moon jr? :))
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    JCRendle wrote: »
    PIERCE-BROSNAN-IN-DIE-ANOTHER-DAY-pierce-brosnan-20861076-185-264.gif

    Yea, more "healthy" than fat, though it could be argued that the North Koreans didn't starve him as they needed him to have enough strength to withstand the torture without actually dying - prolonging the pain and suffering with hopes of making him talk.

    Looks pretty healthy to me for someone who has been tortured for more than a year.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Wasn't Jack Bauer tortured for like 2 years between season 5 and 6, yet started to kick some major butts within 2 hours after being released? :D
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    Wasn't Jack Bauer tortured for like 2 years between season 5 and 6, yet started to kick some major butts within 2 hours after being released? :D

    Not exactly an example of plausibility.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Wasn't Jack Bauer tortured for like 2 years between season 5 and 6, yet started to kick some major butts within 2 hours after being released? :D

    Not exactly an example of plausibility.

    True. What I meant was EON are never going to linger very long on the side effects of Bond being tortured/enprisoned. Even in CR, Craig was humping Vesper within 10 minutes of the torture scene. Just like no one would watch 24 if Bauer spent 12 episodes feeling miserable about his torture. These types of characters are expected to kick ass within a moment's notice.
  • edited February 2015 Posts: 11,189
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Wasn't Jack Bauer tortured for like 2 years between season 5 and 6, yet started to kick some major butts within 2 hours after being released? :D

    Not exactly an example of plausibility.

    True. What I meant was EON are never going to linger very long on the side effects of Bond being tortured/enprisoned. Even in CR, Craig was humping Vesper within 10 minutes of the torture scene. Just like no one would watch 24 if Bauer spent 12 episodes feeling miserable about his torture. These types of characters are expected to kick ass within a moment's notice.

    That is a good point. The producers aren't going to dwell too much on a characters physical/emotional vulnerability. On a smaller scale Moore obviously didn't take too much time to recover from his centrifuge ordeal in MR as he's seducing Corine in the very next scene.

    I know these are meant to be more "serious" scenario's but one still needs to have a little suspension of disbelief.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Wasn't Jack Bauer tortured for like 2 years between season 5 and 6, yet started to kick some major butts within 2 hours after being released? :D

    Not exactly an example of plausibility.

    True. What I meant was EON are never going to linger very long on the side effects of Bond being tortured/enprisoned. Even in CR, Craig was humping Vesper within 10 minutes of the torture scene. Just like no one would watch 24 if Bauer spent 12 episodes feeling miserable about his torture. These types of characters are expected to kick ass within a moment's notice.

    Well, Bond did not recover within ten minutes of his life.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited February 2015 Posts: 15,716
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Wasn't Jack Bauer tortured for like 2 years between season 5 and 6, yet started to kick some major butts within 2 hours after being released? :D

    Not exactly an example of plausibility.

    True. What I meant was EON are never going to linger very long on the side effects of Bond being tortured/enprisoned. Even in CR, Craig was humping Vesper within 10 minutes of the torture scene. Just like no one would watch 24 if Bauer spent 12 episodes feeling miserable about his torture. These types of characters are expected to kick ass within a moment's notice.

    Well, Bond did not recover within ten minutes of his life.

    I meant in running time ;) There's no way EON would make a film where Bond is a mental wreck for half the film. It would be nice to see but Bond films are action/adventure films so having the main character feeling miserable would look very out of place. Just like if DAF had been a direct sequel, Lazenby would be kicking ass left and right, not spend the whole film crying in a corner.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    jobo wrote: »

    And with a shave the repercussions of over a year of torture swiftly disappears. Gillette really is the best a man can get...

    Wasn't it Philishave? Honestly these poor companies cough up millions in product placement fees only to confused with a different brand.


  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    jobo wrote: »
    And with a shave the repercussions of over a year of torture swiftly disappears. Gillette really is the best a man can get...
    Wasn't it Philishave? Honestly these poor companies cough up millions in product placement fees only to confused with a different brand.
    Ahhhh, the warm buzz... like a massage gently washing away the months of searing pain & humiliation...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Philishave HQ8894 XL Sensotec Shaver the choice of James Bond! How can anyone not know this? Are you not Bond fans?
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    jobo wrote: »
    And with a shave the repercussions of over a year of torture swiftly disappears. Gillette really is the best a man can get...

    Wasn't it Philishave? Honestly these poor companies cough up millions in product placement fees only to confused with a different brand.

    Their campaign was obviously lost on me... :P
  • There's a difference between silly and stupid. DAD defines that difference. If you want silly in the Brosnan era, I'd look in the direction of Christmas Jones. She can't be stupid, after all ... she's a nuclear physicist! =))
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
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    Yes, but I would also stick those "X-Ray glasses" from TWINE in there, too.

    This was very very dumb. Never mind the implausibility of xray glasses, but the fact that they seem to work entirely differently based on whether the victim is a man or woman. And Bond using them to perv on all the women in the casino. I'm sure all the 12 year olds found it very titillating.


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