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I don't think we are overanalyzing this: it is a debate and a point of contention over a specific scene, interpreted in two different ways. I'd say the evidences point to at least Blofeld knowing of Hinx and maybe even staging his arrival. Either way, it has nothing to do with an unfinished script. SP has some plot holes, but this is not one of them.
I thought it was clear that Hinx was a relatively new SP member who was clearly ambitious enough to rise through the ranks by volunteering himself for the job that 2 well known SP operatives were to take on. To showcase his fitness for purpose for the mission he brutally killed a fellow Assassin in front of everyone, demonstrating his skill, power and ability to be a valued member not to be underestimated. Hinx made a statement in more ways than one at the Rome meeting and @RC7 sums it up perfectly here...
How invested in current affairs are you? Because believe it or not, water is a serious economic and geopolitical issue that's REALLY going to take centre stage in the not too distant future where wars will start over it. That is a guarantee. QoS was way ahead of the curve in this particular regard and I forsee the movie to experience a new found appreciation by the masses in the years to come.
It's amazing how flawed QoS is but it's probably the most creatively poignant Bond movie in the series if not, outside CR. It's definitely second best Bond movie of the Craig era as far as I'm concerned.
Like @doubleoego pointed out, there is no doubt that Hinx was meant to be at this meeting.
People criticizing the scheme in QOS indeed don't know the importance of water in economy and geopolitic. Even today. And if it was dumb in QOS, then it must have been a stupid scheme in Chinatown, Once Upon a Time in the West and Jean de Floret too.
I don't know if global domination was Quantum's "game." It was making money. And money = power. Greene's plan, and it seemed easy to pull off, was to control the water supply and therefore....make millions and millions. It's a plotline similar to the one in Chinatown.
Agreed. Domination of the world's water supply wasn't the goal. Their goal was strictly the domination of Bolivia's water supply as a means to make money off of the back of the political coup that they were working with General Medrano.
The plot of QoS has always been a plot that I've defended as being particularly frightening, even though it seems to get a lot of flack from all directions. I like these kinds of smaller scale and focused villainous plots rather than the standard world domination plots that a lot of the Bond films seem to lean towards.
I think the use of a criminal organisation worked in the 60s because they treated SPECTRE ironically as the evil criminal organisation playing of te East and the West. Nobody thought that in fact there could be that man with the white cat who is making all the crazy plans of world domination. I have never taken that same old story too seriously in those films and that is the reason why I liked it.
With Qunatum however they tried to make a more realistic plot and for me that simply doesn't work. For a serious spy thriller the plot is not developed well enough. Every villain's plan should at least be a little bit creative. I don't even mind the water controll plan but we do see nothing of it. All we see is a villain who is speaking to some people and who is signing contracts. That is just broing.The problem is, like in the latest film Spectre, they just say they are evil but we don't see it. So it does not really affect me. It is also very obvious for everyone who is bad and who is good in this film. However, a criminal organisation operating in the shadows requires less obvious agents. They could have easily made the villains more interesting and included one or two plot twists in that film.
I don't think we need to know precisely if Hinx is a full member of SPECTRE or not. We see the meeting through Bond's eyes and he has fragmentary knowledge of the man and the organization. I don't think it is very important to know the background of Hinx either. As for his actions changing focus, his orders may have changed through the movie. And it's not like it never happened in a Bond movie before, even the classic ones: Goldfinger did murdered an entire squad of mobsters after telling them in details of his plan to rob Fort Knox. With high tech props, no less.
At the end of the day, as I said, this one isn't really worth too much analysis. Roll with it and enjoy it if you can. That's the kind of Bond film it is.
QoS is the kind of movie for Bond fans who prefer FRWL over Goldfinger. It's not a classic Bond film and it was never trying to be that. It's not your John Glen generic formula. That's what I love about this movie. It was unique and it had a style which I really like. It didn't waste a single second and I love the chaotic nature of the editing. The story is believable. The villain is frighteningly not far from reality. He represents the true evil of his own selfishness at the dispense of others, which is what most politicians and organisations do under the table. So it's nice to see Bond finally take justice not against a man trying to take over the world but balance morality and payback when it's due. Bond is not a psychopath and genuinely cares for others in this movie, but isn't afraid to be the cold blooded bastard Bond is.
The story is also excellently paced and intelligent. The action is tense. The relationships between the characters are perfectly balanced and feel believable. This film is extremely re-watchable too. Truly an underrated classic. It also features one of the best scores since the John Barry days, and uses the Bond theme sparingly, which I actually really appreciate.
Excellently acted. Hopefully it will be appreciated as time goes on.
That's why I rate this Bond film only second to Casino.
I've always felt Brosnan should have had his quirky Bond film too, but they went straight into TSWLM territory with his 2nd, which may have been better left for his 3rd.
I call it the curse of the second movie. Only FRWL did not have it. All others were on released criticized negatively in comparison to the previous one. Regardless of their intrinsic value.
So true. One could only wonder how a Lazenby DAF would have faired.
It was done without him. That's quite a curse in itself.
Pretty much agree with all of this. Like this picture. It's weak in story, I agree, but some cool stuff here. And that ending is just awesome.
Bond: I promised them Le Chiffre and they got Le Chiffre.
M: They got his body.
Bond: If they wanted his soul, they should have made a deal with a priest.
And I liked this Mathis line adapted from CR:
When one is young it seems so very easy to distinguish between right and wrong. But as one gets older it becomes more difficult, the villains and the heroes get all mixed up.
Is there some kind of intiation ceremony?