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  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    I can't stress enough how much I love this film and have done since opening night 10 years ago. I can't see it ever fall down from being my favourite Bond-film!
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,149
    Compared to other Bonds at the moment it's reasonably low in my rankings, but still miles above other genre films. For instance, I far prefer QUANTUM OF SOLACE to 2008's :THE DARK KNIGHT and IRON MAN, which IMO do not hold up after ten years.

    There's so much I love about QUANTUM: Craig, Olga, the locations, Olga, the cinematography, Olga, the fact it was released two years after the last film along with the tight running time, Olga, the set pieces, and the Arnold score.
    This film really should be higher in my rankings. I remember so many people I knew back then dismissing this entry as a Bourne clone with a crummy water plot . Whatever.
    It was considered a let down after CASINO.

    However, I just wasn't bothered by those criticisms. The placement of he gunbarrel as well as it's eventual look and design is what cheapens the film for me. Also I believe Foster omitted a scene where Craig gives the classic Bond introduction. I think that should have been left in. One can have a "Bond, James Bond" without it feeling shoehorned in. IMO all of the Roger films succeeded in treating us to that traditional moment naturally.

    Still it's a highly entertaining entry for me, regardless. I'll probably try to watch it on the 14th of this month as that will be the anniversary of it's U.S. release (and Olga's birthday).
  • UnivexUnivex
    Posts: 6,709
    Yes, if the gun barrel was placed at the beginning and done properly, and if Craig had the chance to deliver the line, I'd like it even more. Also, Mi6's offices are Avengers-type crap.

    But...

    Anyone here also loves the MK12 title sequence? I, for one, do. I think they're better than Kleinman's.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,149
    Univex wrote: »
    Yes, if the gun barrel was placed at the beginning and done properly, and if Craig had the chance to deliver the line, I'd like it even more. Also, Mi6's offices are Avengers-type crap.

    But...

    Anyone here also loves the MK12 title sequence? I, for one, do. I think they're better than Kleinman's.

    I love the titles. To me it was a vast improvement on anything that came after, especially SP's.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Compared to other Bonds at the moment it's reasonably low in my rankings, but still miles above other genre films. For instance, I far prefer QUANTUM OF SOLACE to 2008's :THE DARK KNIGHT and IRON MAN, which IMO do not hold up after ten years.

    There's so much I love about QUANTUM: Craig, Olga, the locations, Olga, the cinematography, Olga, the fact it was released two years after the last film along with the tight running time, Olga, the set pieces, and the Arnold score.
    This film really should be higher in my rankings. I remember so many people I knew back then dismissing this entry as a Bourne clone with a crummy water plot . Whatever.
    It was considered a let down after CASINO.

    However, I just wasn't bothered by those criticisms. The placement of he gunbarrel as well as it's eventual look and design is what cheapens the film for me. Also I believe Foster omitted a scene where Craig gives the classic Bond introduction. I think that should have been left in. One can have a "Bond, James Bond" without it feeling shoehorned in. IMO all of the Roger films succeeded in treating us to that traditional moment naturally.

    Still it's a highly entertaining entry for me, regardless. I'll probably try to watch it on the 14th of this month as that will be the anniversary of it's U.S. release (and Olga's birthday).

    Can't argue with any of this. Even the gunbarrel doesn't bother me. I almost like how fast it is. Suits the pace of the film. I also love how Craig walks away during it.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,149
    Remington wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Compared to other Bonds at the moment it's reasonably low in my rankings, but still miles above other genre films. For instance, I far prefer QUANTUM OF SOLACE to 2008's :THE DARK KNIGHT and IRON MAN, which IMO do not hold up after ten years.

    There's so much I love about QUANTUM: Craig, Olga, the locations, Olga, the cinematography, Olga, the fact it was released two years after the last film along with the tight running time, Olga, the set pieces, and the Arnold score.
    This film really should be higher in my rankings. I remember so many people I knew back then dismissing this entry as a Bourne clone with a crummy water plot . Whatever.
    It was considered a let down after CASINO.

    However, I just wasn't bothered by those criticisms. The placement of he gunbarrel as well as it's eventual look and design is what cheapens the film for me. Also I believe Foster omitted a scene where Craig gives the classic Bond introduction. I think that should have been left in. One can have a "Bond, James Bond" without it feeling shoehorned in. IMO all of the Roger films succeeded in treating us to that traditional moment naturally.

    Still it's a highly entertaining entry for me, regardless. I'll probably try to watch it on the 14th of this month as that will be the anniversary of it's U.S. release (and Olga's birthday).

    Can't argue with any of this. Even the gunbarrel doesn't bother me. I almost like how fast it is. Suits the pace of the film. I also love how Craig walks away during it.

    I love that Arnold returns to a classic Bond theme for the gunbarrel. I far prefer this to the TND, and TWINE style.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Remington wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Compared to other Bonds at the moment it's reasonably low in my rankings, but still miles above other genre films. For instance, I far prefer QUANTUM OF SOLACE to 2008's :THE DARK KNIGHT and IRON MAN, which IMO do not hold up after ten years.

    There's so much I love about QUANTUM: Craig, Olga, the locations, Olga, the cinematography, Olga, the fact it was released two years after the last film along with the tight running time, Olga, the set pieces, and the Arnold score.
    This film really should be higher in my rankings. I remember so many people I knew back then dismissing this entry as a Bourne clone with a crummy water plot . Whatever.
    It was considered a let down after CASINO.

    However, I just wasn't bothered by those criticisms. The placement of he gunbarrel as well as it's eventual look and design is what cheapens the film for me. Also I believe Foster omitted a scene where Craig gives the classic Bond introduction. I think that should have been left in. One can have a "Bond, James Bond" without it feeling shoehorned in. IMO all of the Roger films succeeded in treating us to that traditional moment naturally.

    Still it's a highly entertaining entry for me, regardless. I'll probably try to watch it on the 14th of this month as that will be the anniversary of it's U.S. release (and Olga's birthday).

    Can't argue with any of this. Even the gunbarrel doesn't bother me. I almost like how fast it is. Suits the pace of the film. I also love how Craig walks away during it.

    I love that Arnold returns to a classic Bond theme for the gunbarrel. I far prefer this to the TND, and TWINE style.

    Agreed. I liked that style in TND and TWINE but hated it in SP.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
    Posts: 2,730
    Remington wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Compared to other Bonds at the moment it's reasonably low in my rankings, but still miles above other genre films. For instance, I far prefer QUANTUM OF SOLACE to 2008's :THE DARK KNIGHT and IRON MAN, which IMO do not hold up after ten years.

    There's so much I love about QUANTUM: Craig, Olga, the locations, Olga, the cinematography, Olga, the fact it was released two years after the last film along with the tight running time, Olga, the set pieces, and the Arnold score.
    This film really should be higher in my rankings. I remember so many people I knew back then dismissing this entry as a Bourne clone with a crummy water plot . Whatever.
    It was considered a let down after CASINO.

    However, I just wasn't bothered by those criticisms. The placement of he gunbarrel as well as it's eventual look and design is what cheapens the film for me. Also I believe Foster omitted a scene where Craig gives the classic Bond introduction. I think that should have been left in. One can have a "Bond, James Bond" without it feeling shoehorned in. IMO all of the Roger films succeeded in treating us to that traditional moment naturally.

    Still it's a highly entertaining entry for me, regardless. I'll probably try to watch it on the 14th of this month as that will be the anniversary of it's U.S. release (and Olga's birthday).

    Can't argue with any of this. Even the gunbarrel doesn't bother me. I almost like how fast it is. Suits the pace of the film. I also love how Craig walks away during it.

    Oh my, I can not get over how bad ass it is that he shoots and then just walks off. Like what’s more Criag- bond then that.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    edited November 2018 Posts: 3,996
    QoS is the Bond film i revisit the most. The film flies along at a blistering pace. It's a lean, mean, get it done Bond film.

    No flab or anything superflous to drag down the pace.

    Craig has never been better. I love it.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,407
    Univex wrote: »
    Yes, if the gun barrel was placed at the beginning and done properly, and if Craig had the chance to deliver the line, I'd like it even more. Also, Mi6's offices are Avengers-type crap.

    But...

    Anyone here also loves the MK12 title sequence? I, for one, do. I think they're better than Kleinman's.

    Always loved the titles. Kleinman did a great job on CR, but his titles for SF and SP are bloated and he needs to streamline them if he is hired for Bond 25.
    Wouldn't mind seeing MK12 return, though unlikely as they only got QOS because they worked with Forster before!
  • BT3366BT3366
    Posts: 1,916
    My continuing thought on QoS - forget the film that came after it. This is a much more fulfilling Bond experience.
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/hcmoviereviews.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/why-i-love-quantum-of-solace/amp/
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534


    Exactly how I would have done it. Justin have Craig walk away.
  • TellyBlofeldTellyBlofeld
    Posts: 489
    Like this picture a lot. Not the picture i expected after CR, but it has staying power, for me. Somewhere just out of my top ten perhaps.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 4,511
    QOS wins:

    My favorite Daniel Craig Bond movie
    Daniel Craig at his best in and outside the movie.
    My favorite David Arnold score after Twine.
    Refreshing/Remember what made Bond
    Finaly i watched another Bond movie in December momth. 11 years and 3 days since TMND.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    Remington wrote: »


    Exactly how I would have done it. Justin have Craig walk away.

    This is brilliant. I wish I could edit that into my blu ray.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 3,996
    Remington wrote: »


    Exactly how I would have done it. Justin have Craig walk away.

    That works so well! Excellent job!
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    I cant see it on this bloody work PC !!
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,462


    I've been thinking of QOS lately. I really love the scenes that happen while this soundtrack is playing. Camille was a well done character who deserves a lot more love. The drought Greene created really was a unique act of evil for a Bond villain, but very effective in making you hate him. An awesome song and soundtrack in general by Arnold as well. QOS really is an underrated gem.
  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
    edited January 2020 Posts: 1,081
    Quantum of Solace is almost a modern day Licence To Kill, IMO. They're centered around Bond avenging the death of a loved one and going rogue in process. I watched QoS months ago and I must say it was better then I remember. It's definitely a film that's greater than the sum of its parts. The Tosca scenes are the highlight for me. I love the callback to The Spy Who Loved Me with Bond throwing that undercover agent off the building after being pursued. I also love the fight scene with Slate earlier on. Bond at his most Brutal. The locations and cinematography are great too. That being said I do feel that QoS was a wasted opportunity. To set the scene with Casino Royale and then follow up with 90 minutes or so of this was underwhelming. Ironically, it's a Bond film I find myself consistently gravitating to when looking for one to watch.
  • Agent_47Agent_47 Canada
    Posts: 330
    Wish I liked this one more, it's 2nd from the bottom for me.

    I always find myself getting nostalgic for Quantum and thinking that it's so much better than I give it credit for... then I watch it again and I end up disappointed, yet again, rinse and repeat.

    Not to say I hate it, because I don't. It's still a solid movie and moves briskly enough to remain relatively entertaining throughout.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 4,043
    Octopussy wrote: »
    Quantum of Solace is almost a modern day Licence To Kill, IMO. They're centered around Bond avenging the death of a loved one and going rogue in process. I watched QoS months ago and I must say it was better then I remember. It's definitely a film that's greater than the sum of its parts. The Tosca scenes are the highlight for me. I love the callback to The Spy Who Loved Me with Bond throwing that undercover agent off the building after being pursued. I also love the fight scene with Slate earlier on. Bond at his most Brutal. The locations and cinematography are great too. That being said I do feel that QoS was a wasted opportunity. To set the scene with Casino Royale and then follow up with 90 minutes or so of this was underwhelming. Ironically, it's a Bond film I find myself consistently gravitating to when looking for one to watch.

    To me it is a much more consistent take on the LTK type Bond, it sticks to its tone and doesn't crowbar cheese into the proceedings and Craig also his 2nd at this point is much more assured in the role than Dalton ever was.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    The comparison with LTK is apposite.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 3,996
    Being a fan of the Bourne films I think having Craig's Bond put in a Bourne type film was a dream come true for me.

    Personally I thought it was the way forward for Bond films, especially with Craig's interpretation, but sadly it wasn't to be.

    Rebooting again with Q and gadgets was a big mistake IMO.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    Being a fan of the Bourne films I think having Craig's Bond put in a Bourne type film was a dream come true for me.

    Personally I thought it was the way forward for Bond films, especially with Craig's interpretation, but sadly it wasn't to be.

    Rebooting again with Q and gadgets was a big mistake IMO.

    I agree that the style of QOS really suited Craig Bond, although I don't thin QoS is just a Bourne knock off.

    I thought after QOS the next film would really hit out of the park but the Mendes era seems lazy to me. A step back to cliched stuff.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,275
    Remington wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    It’s the OHMSS of our time

    This.

    Watching QoS is like eating a hamburger with bits of filet mignon in it.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 3,996
    Being a fan of the Bourne films I think having Craig's Bond put in a Bourne type film was a dream come true for me.
    Getafix wrote: »
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    Being a fan of the Bourne films I think having Craig's Bond put in a Bourne type film was a dream come true for me.

    Personally I thought it was the way forward for Bond films, especially with Craig's interpretation, but sadly it wasn't to be.

    Rebooting again with Q and gadgets was a big mistake IMO.

    I agree that the style of QOS really suited Craig Bond, although I don't thin QoS is just a Bourne knock off.

    I thought after QOS the next film would really hit out of the park but the Mendes era seems lazy to me. A step back to cliched stuff.

    Oh I don't think it's a 'Bourne knock off' it just has that style which I like.

    Mendes is a one trick pony who had way too much power directing Bond.
  • GatecrasherGatecrasher Classified
    Posts: 265
    Ahhhh, finally! This topic thread was tailored for me. I know QoS gets a lot of hate, most of it is undeserved...but what can I say, I adore this film, warts and all. Yeah, it moves a little too quick and the editing’s choppy, but I prefer the pacing of this film than, say, SF and SP because you actually get the impression in QoS that it’s aiming towards something. The two aforementioned examples tend to revel in the melodrama a bit too much - this film, on the other hand, moves like a bullet.

  • OctopussyOctopussy Piz Gloria, Schilthorn, Switzerland.
    Posts: 1,081
    Shardlake wrote: »
    Octopussy wrote: »
    Quantum of Solace is almost a modern day Licence To Kill, IMO. They're centered around Bond avenging the death of a loved one and going rogue in process. I watched QoS months ago and I must say it was better then I remember. It's definitely a film that's greater than the sum of its parts. The Tosca scenes are the highlight for me. I love the callback to The Spy Who Loved Me with Bond throwing that undercover agent off the building after being pursued. I also love the fight scene with Slate earlier on. Bond at his most Brutal. The locations and cinematography are great too. That being said I do feel that QoS was a wasted opportunity. To set the scene with Casino Royale and then follow up with 90 minutes or so of this was underwhelming. Ironically, it's a Bond film I find myself consistently gravitating to when looking for one to watch.

    To me it is a much more consistent take on the LTK type Bond, it sticks to its tone and doesn't crowbar cheese into the proceedings and Craig also his 2nd at this point is much more assured in the role than Dalton ever was.

    Agree. Quantum of Solace is 100% committed to delivering that style of Bond film, whereas Licence To Kill still had trappings of the franchises formative years. However, I still prefer LTK as I believe it's more of a complete Bond film. I also prefer Dalton as Bond. It would've been interesting to see how a Dalton Goldeneye would've turned out for this reason. TLD and LTK demonstrate a progression towards a different style of Bond film.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,407
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    Being a fan of the Bourne films I think having Craig's Bond put in a Bourne type film was a dream come true for me.

    Personally I thought it was the way forward for Bond films, especially with Craig's interpretation, but sadly it wasn't to be.

    Rebooting again with Q and gadgets was a big mistake IMO.
    LeonardPine wrote: »
    Being a fan of the Bourne films I think having Craig's Bond put in a Bourne type film was a dream come true for me.

    Personally I thought it was the way forward for Bond films, especially with Craig's interpretation, but sadly it wasn't to be.

    Rebooting again with Q and gadgets was a big mistake IMO.

    Again, we agree. Think it was a mistake to reintroduce Q and Moneypenny. It led to the 'Scooby gang' as its dubbed here. I didn't like either actor playing them, Harris trying too hard and Whishaw not trying hard enough!!
    CR and QoS showed we didn't need them.
    They should have been kept for the next reboot!
    Back to QOS, it's definitely coming to my number 1 spot for my 'go to' Bond fix. The short running time helps a lot!
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