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Yes, agree with you, CraigMooreOHMSS. Both are great examples of style and accomplish different things. I equally love Bond and MI, although I have to confess I really liked Ghost Protocol and Rogue Nation more than SF and SP.
Not dissing you or anything but I find your post hard to fathom.You call Mendes overrated and say he threw away everything CR and QOS built....but then you say you loved Skyfall?
@AstonLotus No worries at all, I understand your point. I guess I’m a contrarian when it comes to Mendes. I don’t like that he didn’t continue the storyline of QOS and CR, because I loved them. However, I think Skyfall is fabulous in its own right. But without Christensen, it would have been extraordinarily difficult to continue with CR/Qos story arc. But, I think Spectre set up way too many plot elements and a direction (campiness) that I didn’t want the series to go in. However, I do enjoy Spectre for what it is. It’s no CR,Quantum, or Skyfall to be sure...but it still has Daniel Craig and some great action. Does that make sense? It may not haha. I think Mendes should have picked up the Quantum storyline with Mr. White as the lead villain in Bond 24: The Pale King. At this point, it’s going to be Bond vs White and Quantum. The big showdown. Oh what could have been.
@Venutius You articulated my feelings about Astonlotus’s question much better than I. Also, I think once theY acquired the SP name, they went a bit berserk with having to use it.
Damn right 👍
One of these days I'll have to give the Craig films the treatment I gave the Connery ones and do super in-depth reviews of them. I have always had much to say about them, especially this one.
Oh wow! Welcome back @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7
You have been missed!
Let s go, Brady!
DC's most bondian sequence/moment, for me. Closest he ever came to being classic cinematic 007
He understood what made CR great by keeping to the same somewhat gritty and reality based tone for SF but clearly he understood how BAD QOS was.Sorry guys ,I know this is an appreciation thread but the fact is QOS was seen by many to be a disappointment and the Bourne copycat approach to that film was dispensed with for the follow up films.
Even Blofeld doesn’t bother making references to QOS at the climax of SP when he doesn’t put up any photos of Greene or Fields at MI6 to taunt Bond.Everyone remembers the likes of Le Chiffre,Vesper,and Silva but the fact they left out the QOS characters is a clear indication by the filmmakers that QOS was a forgettable film and regarded as amongst the series weakest.
Blofeld putting pictures up of past villains was one of the silliest moments of the Craig films.
Le Chiffre, Greene and Silva had nothing to do with Spectre until the makers decided to shoehorn them into the plot to connect them with It. Just proved they had no clue how to salvage the mess of a script they had.
Regarding the photos at film's end and no Greene, can simply be a matter of Blofeld's printer running out of paper.
Each to their own, that’s the joy of Bond, I find SF light years ahead of QoS. A rich, assured, swaggering affair vs a hyperactive clusterf*** that despite its freneticism turns out to be the most boring film in the canon.
I agree with this. And I feel that many want this type of persona from Bond, and the no nonsense direction that the film took. We can leave the campiness to Marvel.
Don't be a Nerf herder...
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Cheers, @LeonardPine. Good to be back.
I've missed you, you old nutcase. Glad they haven't surrendered you to the asylum yet.
After all these years, I do love Quantum more and more. I’d agree this was Arnold’s best score and that the cinematography is woefully underrated. There’s definitely great mood here.
Have always hated this take on the MI6 HQ in terms of production design, which was clearly taken back in the following film. I love Gassner’s work in this and the subsequent films and hope to see him return, but the high-tech MI6 was ridiculous.
And of course, it’s the high mark for Craig’s wardrobe. I’d argue it’s the most stylish Bond wardrobe in the whole series - personal taste.
What do you think this place is?
Well, well, well.....@0BradyM0Bondfanatic7
It's been a long time. What took you so long?
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Hope you are keeping well, sir!
@CraigMooreOHMSS a long time it has been, indeed, but good to be back. I'm surviving, and hope you're doing well too.
Agreed.Spectre for all its faults at least tries to bring some classic Bond tropes back to the series that was missing from CR and particularly QOS.The latter feeling too much like a Bourne copycat with its excessive shakycam and epileptic editing.
CR didn't need 'classic Bond tropes' whatever they are. It captured and updated Fleming's novel incredibly well.
CR is light years ahead of SP in quality. And QoS for all it's faults was heading Bond in the right direction.