Craig Confirm Moneypenny? And B23 to be darker?

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edited July 2011 in Skyfall Posts: 1,022
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    He says "we've got all of it", which seems like a round about way of yes!

    Again, he calls the script "incredible"

    Looking good so far at least from DC's perspective

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  • Sounds good to me. It'll be nice having Moneypenny back. ;)
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    I am simply TIRED of 'darker' films. This is a total disapointment, as I wanted a TB-esque adventure. How darker can they get ? I don't think I will watch B23 at all, if this continues the way it is... I wanted the fun back in B23. Atleast Moneypenny is back... This looks more and more like a film I'll download on the internet when it becomes available... No way I am paying 5 euros for another Bond film I'll probably not appreciate.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Can't wait to see how it turns out. With what DC said, Mendes directing, and the casting information and rumors we've had so far, it's shaping up to be an amazing Bond adventure.
  • Daniel Craig never INDICATED the movie will be darker so we dont need to worry about it
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    A DARKER take could mean a number of things. No need to stress DC. It could mean a darker Bond, a darker villain, or darker plot depending on the events of the film in its chosen locales.
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    edited July 2011 Posts: 4,399
    @DaltonCraig

    at one point during preproduction, Die Another Day was touted as being darker than the previous Bond adventures - at least thats how i remember 007.com promoting it... "working outside of MI6, where no one is who they seem."

    and look what a laugher that turned out to be....... when pressing a film, it seems like the hip word to say all the time - "it's going to be darker" ..... really, in tone - i don't see it being drastically different than CR.... and thats fine with me.
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    hope they also can remove Judi Dench since she does not fit in a bond film M must be played by a male!.
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    darker? i am not sure about that part u actually hope it wont be darker.but it might be good

  • Monsieur_AubergineMonsieur_Aubergine Top of the Eiffel Tower with a fly in my soup!
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    A movie or the movie can be as dark as it wants, the key is to make it thrilling. Dark does not necceaarily mean uber violent or depressing it could mean that the subject matter or indeed the look of the film is more broody and affecting. Flemings novels are chock full of shadows and oppressive situations, if mendes can pull off a wonderful mix of FRWL (hitchcockesque thriller) TB(high stakes, high jinx action) and CR (craig's pitch perfect delivery) we are sure to have a winner. DC - don't get torrent blues just yet. This could just be the best nod to the legacy we have all been waiting for! Let's keep the faith guys and gals. :-)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I second that and toast you and Bond 23, @Monsieur_Aubergine!
  • edited July 2011 Posts: 1,778
    Can't wait. Craig will follow the old tradition established by Connery and Moore of a Bond actor's 3rd film being the one that really defines them. The Brosnan era ruined that tradition with TWINE but then again Brosnan ruined alot of things.
  • hope they also can remove Judi Dench since she does not fit in a bond film M must be played by a male!.
    Why? Please elaborate.

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    Can't wait. Craig will follow the old tradition established by Connery and Moore of a Bond actor's 3rd film being the one that really defines them. The Brosnan era ruined that tradition with TWINE but then again Brosnan ruined alot of things.

    post of the week!
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    Thanks Risico007 ;-)
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    no prob. i laughed out loud very rarely do posts make me laugh out loud your definitly did.
  • It will be nice to see Miss.MOneypenny and Q back, but how do they introduce them to Craig Bond? Just appear out of nowhere? There must be some way to introduce the two characters because the first two of Craig Bond didnt have them, and you cant just have them appear with no explanation. I would think Moneypenny will have to get a bigger role in her first appearance in Craig Bond or it wont make sense to me. Q can just be introduce as the head of a new branch or something..
  • edited July 2011 Posts: 1,778
    Actually I think they can simply just have them there. I have feeling that the film will acknowledge the years that have passed. Also considering how QOS took place immediately after CR we can assumes QOS took place in late 2006 or early 2007. The security camera in Nassau confirms that the film is taking place in June 2006. I suppose Bond takes a few months to recover towards the end. However I doubt what happens in QOS can be anything more than a year after the Nassau scenes. As a matter of fact QOS the videogame states that Bond meeting Greene takes place 6 months after the Madagascar chase in CR. So assuming Bond 23 does indeed take place in 2012, Bond will have had 5 years of going on missions and gaining experience. I’m sure in this time M could've hired a new secretary and MI6 could've gotten a higher budget or something and made Major Boothroyd the head of Q branch. It wouldn't bother me if they're already a part of Bond’s universe as the beginning of the film.
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    I think it would be better to explain their origins. Especially since the films have already taken the time to explore Bond and Leiter's beginnings. However, if they were to do it this way, it would be better to introduce Q and Moneypenny one at a time; one in BOND 23 and one in BOND 24.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    I think that as Bond goes into M's office, he notices both Moneypenny and Boothroyd in the area where Villers was once, Bond gets confused, Moneypenny and Boothroyd introduce themselves as M notices them, tell him she won't have to do as much, once Bond is briefed, he begins to flirt with Moneypenny and goes to Q branch.

    Just my two cents.
  • @AgentJamesBond007 I wouldn't mind a scenario like that actually.

    I think the best thing to do is to not overplay the fact that these characters are reentering the Bond films. In fact if they do it in a way that it feels natural and perhaps even with a little sleight of hand, it could make for a rather fun and memorable scene.
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    Yes, it looks like classic Bond may be back in business!
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    I think the characters need actual backstories; reasons for being there. They've been a part of the series for so long that they deserve as much.

    For example, Q: a retired (possibly on disability) Army quartermaster who gets a job running the technology division. He presents field equipment to Bond, but does not actually invent or construct it. That is instead performed by a small group of genius-level employees who all have various forms of autism spectrum disorders, most notably Asperger's Syndrome. For all their brilliance, they struggle with social situations and need highly-organised planning for their day. In this version, Q is more of a headmaster, who is able to organise their day in such a way that they are very comofrtable in what they do.
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    This shouldn't be a mystery; her apperance should be expected.
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    Can't wait. Craig will follow the old tradition established by Connery and Moore of a Bond actor's 3rd film being the one that really defines them. The Brosnan era ruined that tradition with TWINE but then again Brosnan ruined alot of things.
    Dalton ruined it first, he didn`t turn up for a third...

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    This shouldn't be a mystery; her apperance should be expected.
    No, she should only appear if it's necessary to appear.
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    i am not too bothered by Moneypenny or Q. I didnt miss them in the last two films and shoving them in for the ubiquitous "gadget briefing" or flirting seems very un-Craiglike. But if they are rebooting them as they did Bond in CR then so much the better. For me, the characters of Q/R and MP reached their nadir with John Cleese and Samantha Bond.

    More interesting is the eagernes that Dan is showing for Bond 23. I believe as Rog did he is slowly falling in love with the role. The shock of MGM going under and having to be rescued must still be with him. He must have felt the feather hand of Dalton having only done two films.

    I am pleased for him and he does tend to raise the game of everyone working on the film if the last two efforts are anything to go by.
  • edited July 2011 Posts: 1,778
    Can't wait. Craig will follow the old tradition established by Connery and Moore of a Bond actor's 3rd film being the one that really defines them. The Brosnan era ruined that tradition with TWINE but then again Brosnan ruined alot of things.
    Dalton ruined it first, he didn`t turn up for a third...

    I hardly see how that was his fault. His contract had expired and Unites Artists wanted to recast the character. I guess we'll never know if his third film would've been good. But what we do know for certain is that TWINE sucked.
  • edited July 2011 Posts: 11,189
    "B23 is going to be darker", "this is going to peel back the layers and explore Bond's character", "I want to find out how this man ticks"

    YAWN! It's PR talk and we'll have to wait until the finished film to judge for certain. They promised a darker film for B22 and we got a dull action film instead with a few arty touches. I'm sure it will be "serious" and more in line with Craig's style of acting but I want to wait until the film comes out to make a judgement. Personally, I don't care if its dark/light/whatever. As long as its entertaining and satisfying.
    Can't wait. Craig will follow the old tradition established by Connery and Moore of a Bond actor's 3rd film being the one that really defines them. The Brosnan era ruined that tradition with TWINE but then again Brosnan ruined alot of things.
    I hardly see how that was his fault. His contract had expired and Unites Artists wanted to recast the character. I guess we'll never know if his third film would've been good. But what we do know for certain is that TWINE sucked.
    I enjoy TWINE. It's certainly not one of the best but it entertains me. Barbara Brocolli and co "ruined" the series when they comissioned DAD. They need to take just as much blame as Brosnan does.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    @hasterot - Yes, DAD was indeed touted as being a darker Bond. And is it even possible for Bond#23 to be darker than QOS?
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