The Best 90's-2000's Villains

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  • Posts: 5,634
    I wonder in eight years time if we're all here what caliber of 2010's Bond villains there could be, probably about another two or three Bond films after Skyfall this decade you would imagine, so watch this space and all
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    1.) Alec Trevelyan
    2.) General Ourumov
    3.) Le Chiffre
    4.) Stamper
    5.) Slate
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    5.) Slate

    Uhh...really? Would like to see your reasoning

  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    1) Xenia
    2) General Ourumov
    3) Elektra King

    Really, there were not any great major villains now that I think of it.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    1. Alex Trevelyan
    2. Le Chiffre
    3. Elektra King
    4. Elliot Carver

    I dislike Graves and Greene immensely, the former being a badly written, cheesy bad guy version of Robocop, and the latter just being incredibly boring. I love the four I've listed though, and any henchmen they had (Xenia, Ourumov, and Stamper in particular) were very good.
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    1. Le Chiffre (by a mile)
    2. 006
    3. Renard (although final showdown with Bond was a letdown)

    I,m sure when SF is released, Mr Bardem will be added to this list

    Top henchperson would go to Onatopp (as assuming Renard is classed as a main villain)
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 546
    1.Alec Trevelyn/006
    2.General Arkady Ourumov
    3.Xenia Onatopp
    4.Renard
    5.Gustav Graves
    6.La Chiffre
    7.Elliot Carver
    8.Silva
    9.Stamper
    10.Zoe
    11.Electra King
    12.Davidov
    13.Mr. Kill
    14.Cigar Girl
    15.Dominic Green
  • I'll do a top ten.

    10: Renard
    9: Gustav Graves
    8: Zao
    7: Alec Trevelyan
    6: Le Chiffre
    5: General Ourumov
    4: Elektra King
    3: Dominic Greene
    2: Raoul Silva
    1: Elliot Carver
  • #1 Trevelyan
    #2 Renard
    #3 Dr Kaufman
    #4 Elektra King
    #5 Raoul Silva
    #6 Gustav Graves
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    w2bond wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    5.) Slate

    Uhh...really? Would like to see your reasoning

    I know this is an incredibly delayed response, but:

    My list would most certainly be a bit different now - I wouldn't keep Slate there; I believe I only added him at the time because I love the fight between Bond and Slate so much. In terms of a villain, I just consider him a major factor in an excellent fight, nothing more than that. I would change it to:

    1.) Alec Trevelyan
    2.) Le Chiffre
    3.) General Ourumov
    4.) Xenia Onatopp
    5.) Elektra
    6.) Zao (He was in some of the better fight scenes with Bond throughout DAD - Cuba and the car chase on ice - and he proved to be a worthy physical adversary.)
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Trevelayn, Elektra and Onnatop.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Can Silva be included on this list, or does he belong to the " 10's "?
    But of the other I may say:

    1) Dominic Greene
    2) Alec Trevelyan
    3) Le Chiffre
    4) Gustav Graves ( yes I said it )
    5) Elliot Carver
    6) Elektra King
    7) Renard

    Of all the uintresting villains, Renard takes the number 1 place. He has such a lack of caracther and is just dull. Sorry Renard, but you're just like the movie you were in. Dull.
  • edited February 2014 Posts: 19,339
    Updated now to include SF :

    1.Alec Trevelyan
    2.Le Chiffre
    3.Electra King
    4.General Ourumov
    5.Raoul Silva.
  • Bond wrote:
    Greene is bad, but Gustav Graves is one of the worst villains in the series' history. So forced, so tacky, so ridiculous.

    I can see why people might think that. However, consider what Graves says to Bond once Bond uncovers his true identity:

    We only met briefly, but you left a lasting impression. You see, when your intervention forced me to present the world with a new face, I chose to model the disgusting Gustav Graves on you. Oh, just in the details. That unjustifiable swagger, the crass quips, the self-defense mechanism concealing such inadequacy...

    So yes, Graves is forced, tacky and ridiculous, but it's not because Stephens portrayed him poorly, IMO, rather it's because Moon's portrayal of Graves is based on a cartoonish notion of what a "corrupt Westerner" is supposed to be according to Moon--someone who is extremely boorish and obnoxious. I quite enjoyed the character myself.

    Here is my top to list:

    3. Alec Trevelyan
    2. Elliot Carver
    1.Raoul Silva (is 2012 too late?)




  • edited February 2014 Posts: 19,339
    1.Raoul Silva (is 2012 too late?)

    No,its in the 2000's so he can be used,as will the next villain...

  • Posts: 11,189
    My 2014 list:

    Le Chiffre
    Silva
    Xenia Onatopp
    General Oromov
    Alec Trevelyan
    Elliot Carver
    Electra King
    Stamper
    Renard
    Gustav Graves
    Zao
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Top 3 -

    3) Elektra
    2) Silva
    1) Le Chiffre
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    1) Alec Trevelyan
    2) Raoul Silva
    3) Mr. White
    4) Le Chiffre
    5) Dominic Greene
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    edited February 2014 Posts: 578
    I'll rank the main villains

    1. Raoul Silva
    2. Alec Trevelyan
    3. Le Chiffre
    4. Elliot Carver
    5. Elektra King
    6. Gustav Graves
    7. Dominic Greene
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    This is turning into more of a 'rank the Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson villains'. Three decades that could soon be split into separate threads.
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    1.LeChiffe
    1. Mfr. White
    2. Silva
    3. Trevelyn

    The majority of the villains in Brozza's films were weak and pale in comparison to what came before and after.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    best henchpeople 90s-00s

    1. Xenia Onatopp of things
    2. Dr. Kauffman 'he's like a father to me'
    3. Herr Stamper
    4. Mr. 'time to get out' White
    5. Zao 'sparkling personality'
    6. Giulietta 'you can't protect me, invincible spy man' da Vinci (Cigar Girl)
    7. Victor Zokas aka Renard
    8. Kratt
    9. Edmund 'pulled into a meeting' Slate
    10. Sasha 'buried with work' Davidov
    11. Mr. Kil or be Kil'd

    best villains 90s-00s

    1. Raoul 'we can either eat each other... mmm ;;) Silva
    2. 'Why Alec? I trusted you' Trevelyan
    3. 'I'll get the money' Le Chiffre
    4. Dominic 'don't speak to me like I'm stupid' Greene
    5. The disgusting Gustav Graves
    6. Elektra 'oil in my veins' King
    7. Arkady 'use the bumper' Ouromov
    8. Elliott 'pfft... pathetic' Carver
    9. Lee 'it's a codename' Tamahori
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    Best '90s-'00s Henchmen

    1. General Ourumov- he simply radiates authority and coolness; the only drawback to his character was how quickly he was killed- if his death was supposed to represent how disposable he was to Trevelyan, then it succeeded. Still though, I wish he had been given a more worthy death than a round of machine gun fire!

    2. Xenia Onatopp- probably the most memorable female villain of all Bond movies since Fiona Volpe in Thunderball or May Day in A View to a Kill

    3. Boris Grishenko- would we call Boris a "cool henchman"? Absolutely not- but memorable and a worthy inclusion to the series? Indeed! The line "I am invincible!" should be enough to seal his place in this list

    4. Victor "Renard" Zokas- if there must be one drawback to such a classic henchman, it would be in the unused potential of his "special ability"- that is, his near invincibility; despite it being played up early on in the movie during the MI6 briefing at the castle, when it came time to be used in the final showdown with 007, we were seriously let down. However, still more memorable than the villains in the movies to come!

    5. Stamper- I find it ironic how most fans remember Renard more than they would Stamper, and yet what made Renard so iconic had actually already been in effect with Stamper two years before! I've read complaints about how Stamper is a typical Aryan strong-man knockoff of previous henchmen (Red Grant, Hans, Kriegler, Necros), but that never really bothered me- he certainly has a more significant role than either Hans or Kriegler did!
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Alec Trevelyan, without a doubt. Though, I may be biased as I was born in the same part of Sheffield as him. But, no, he just exudes awesomeness!
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Alec Trevelyan - stupid plan with piss poor execution, but damn was he a good character. Plus, a villain with a connection to Bond was pretty good.

    Elliot Carver - He's a cruel-as-hell J. Jonah Jameson, but he was a very contemporary 90s villain (TNT must have thought he was a little too on-the-mark, because whenever TND aired on TNT, they cut out the "I always thought watching your TV shows was torture enough" line from Bond).

    Le Chiffre - Every time I watch Casino Royale, I just enjoy Mads Mikkleson's performance. He plays a suitably creepy villain who's just good at playing poker. Then he took a bullet to the skull from somebody not Bond, which surprised me.
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