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Massacre in Oslo

TracyTracy
edited July 2011 in General Discussion Posts: 1,708
A guy dressed as a cop detonated a bomb killing 7 , then he went to a youth political gathering , killing 84 kids with rifle/gun while laughing and shouting. 91 dead so far.........

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  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
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    I'm in Oslo right now. Scary stuff.
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    what was his motive? did he get arrested or did the Police kill him?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Apparently he's a Christian fundamentalist who wants everyone to die.

    He and I do not share the same God.
  • OnlyManWhoCanOnlyManWhoCan Greater London
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    That's utterly insane. I can't comprehend one man killing so many people. Usually in these massacres the criminal is taken out (or kills themselves) before the number gets that high. It's tragic.
  • shadowonthesunshadowonthesun Banned
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    "Zorin-esque"?

    I'm sorry, but that's just in poor taste.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    "Zorin-esque"?

    I'm sorry, but that's just in poor taste.
    Let's not go there right now.

    It appears he's a right-wing extremist, spreading anti-Islamic messages and whatnot. The news broadcasts also mentioned he enjoys World Of War craft which I feel is almost irrelevant and before you know it, we'll have the whole violent video game debate once more. He's a very conservative Christian with some screws loose. This massacre is absolutely terrible. It fills we with pain and sadness.

  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
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    on twitter the witnesses say there was a partner and he or she is still on the island.

    Traveling down to london to shoot an ad, totally grossed in what crappy thing i was doing, got in at 12 midnight put the news on and then this....makes me wonder how little human life is respected; see Somali right now.

    And yes please change the thread title.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Extremely upsetting. Crazy how the world can easily be shaken up with just one event. They're kids, for God's sake. Children at a youth camp. Just unbelievable.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
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    The evil blonde killer that did this deserves a severe week long torture session behind closed doors, and then slowly beaten to death. That's all I have to say about this useless piece of sh!t!!!!
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
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    Willy I couldn't agree more. WHY WHY WHY do people hurt innocent children????? I'm sick to my stomach because I love my kids beyond belief and I just can't wrap my head around this.
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    Another crazy person using God as an excuse to kill people! How many times has this happened in the last 2800 years?
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Terrible! Here in Sweden this is the breaking news. Everyone follow the news in our neighbour Norway! My sincerelest condolences to all families and friends to the dead and wounded... :(
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    He's a very conservative Christian with some screws loose.
    Just because someone may claim to be a very conservative Christian doesn't necessarily mean he is one.

  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
    edited July 2011 Posts: 823
    Is this lunatic responsible for the Oslo bombing too?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited July 2011 Posts: 24,183
    He's a very conservative Christian with some screws loose.
    Just because someone may claim to be a very conservative Christian doesn't necessarily mean he is one.

    You have a good point there. Of course, it really boils down to his personal interpretation of what a conservative Christian is all about. I somewhat consider myself a conservative Christian yet this man and I have nothing in common I dare say.
    Is this lunatic responsible for the Oslo bombing too?
    I believe this is what the authorities currently assume, yes. However, I could be mistaken but right before I switched off the news, I heard them talk about an apprehended man, possibly an accomplice. I'm not sure where they stand now.

  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    He's a very conservative Christian with some screws loose.
    Just because someone may claim to be a very conservative Christian doesn't necessarily mean he is one.

    You have a good point there. Of course, it really boils down to his personal interpretation of what a conservative Christian is all about. I somewhat consider myself a conservative Christian yet this man and I have nothing in common I dare say.

    Different view suddenly when it comes to christianity. Muslims are considered all evil.

    In essence all religious views have lead to incredible bloodshed through the ages.

    This man will turn out to be a monster.

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited July 2011 Posts: 24,183
    Muslims are considered all evil.
    I scowl at the thought that you would grant me such narrow-minded views, dear friend. I teach a diverse group of pupils, diverse in terms of ethnicity, skin colour, religion, sex and sexual preferences, social background, physical abilities and disabilities and political views. My experiences with Muslims are in no sense different from my experiences with other youngsters and I certainly do not consider them all to be evil. In fact, I get along with them pretty well. Not that it matters, but some youngsters very recently told me I am one of the most open-minded teachers they've ever known to hang around in a catholic school. I nevertheless believe that Muslim spokespersons sometimes express themselves in clumsy terms, clouded in irrational and medieval thinking, but I'm not naive enough to think that the Christian community doesn't feature the same kind of people. This monster, for example, is probably a product of dangerous doctrines, possibly self-taught, and cannot be excused for what he's done.

  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    another Religious Nutball!!

    how many millions people have died in history in the name of Christianity?

    too many!

    http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

    I have nothing against Religion and Christianity and Catholicism, etc etc

    You believe what you want to believe as long as you don't try to put your belief on me - like a friend of mine who is constantly asking me if I found Jesus Christ and that my Soul will go to hell if I don't!!
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    In essence all religious views have lead to incredible bloodshed through the ages.
    Would you consider communism a religion then? I'm thinking of the actions of Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot.
    You believe what you want to believe as long as you don't try to put your belief on me -
    As long as your nation's government is not compelling you by force to believe or to not believe, you have the freedom in this world to do either.
    like a friend of mine who is constantly asking me if I found Jesus Christ and that my Soul will go to hell if I don't!!
    Then your disagreement is not really with your friend but with the founder of the Christian religion. Sounds like you have a good friend who truly cares for you.

  • timmertimmer
    edited July 2011 Posts: 4,622
    I don't care if you believe in Christ, Allah, the buddah, Gaia, the Easter Bunny or Obama,
    as the source of all truth and good.
    When you commit evil acts of any degree you are serving this guy (devil emoticon) (purple devil emoticon doesn't seem to work)
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
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    another Religious Nutball!!

    how many millions people have died in history in the name of Christianity?

    too many!

    http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

    I have nothing against Religion and Christianity and Catholicism, etc etc

    You believe what you want to believe as long as you don't try to put your belief on me - like a friend of mine who is constantly asking me if I found Jesus Christ and that my Soul will go to hell if I don't!!

    That's about as "gospel" as it gets for us non-Christians. Well said =D>
  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart
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    You believe what you want to believe as long as you don't try to put your belief on me -
    As long as your nation's government is not compelling you by force to believe or to not believe, you have the freedom in this world to do either.

    One of the problems that I've had with some religions is that the followers are so quick to play the victim and claim that someone or some group is "forcing their lifestyle on us" (see the same-sex marriage debate here in Canada several years back) yet these same religious people try to force their "lifestyle" on others - trying to get sex ed taken out of schools, enforce Christian prayer (but none from other religions) during City Council meetings, making it illegal to have a business open on certain holidays like Xmas or Easter Sunday, and in one case even closing down a store that sold condoms!

    Like the wise gentleman above - as long as you believe what you believe and don't force it on others most people won't have a problem with you. But if you believe that you possess the Absolute Truth That No One Can Disagree With and think that every person who doesn't agree with you is WRONG then, well, that's how conflict is generated.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    My problem with religion is that most fundamentalists find, say, homosexuality disgusting, wrong, and feel that it is in their right (Christians) to tell them who and how to love, along with telling them that nobody wants to know or hear about their sexuality, and to keep it to themselves. In turn, said fundamentalists feel it's alright to spread their beliefs in such a way. Very hypocritical. I have no problem with religion (I'm agnostic), just keep it to yourselves.
  • timmertimmer
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    (see the same-sex marriage debate here in Canada several years back) yet these same religious people try to force their "lifestyle" on others - trying to get sex ed taken out of schools, enforce Christian prayer (but none from other religions) during City Council meetings, making it illegal to have a business open on certain holidays like Xmas or Easter Sunday
    what are you going on about? you seem to be confusing normal debate on the issues of the day in a democratic society with "forcing"
    In a democracy the will of the people, whatever that will might be, rules the day. Eg to use your example, ssm passed a vote in the House of Commons under the old Liberal government. But that legislation wouldn't have stood a chance of passing since the Conservatives took over 5 years ago.
    Just the way it goes in a democracy. No forcing.
    btw I live in the same city as you and I am not aware of any, forced or otherwise, Christian prayer in the public schools, however there has been a big flap recently over
    Islamic prayer services in public schools. Hmmm

  • timmertimmer
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    My problem with religion is that most fundamentalists find, say, homosexuality disgusting, wrong, and feel that it is in their right (Christians) to tell them who and how to love, along with telling them that nobody wants to know or hear about their sexuality, and to keep it to themselves. In turn, said fundamentalists feel it's alright to spread their beliefs in such a way
    And what exactly might the problem be here. Sounds like the exercise of freedom of expression from both sides of the sex camps.
    Would we be better off legislating correct thinking and then enforce it? It's been done. It's called communism.
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    sometime I wonder how me and my friend have been friends for 27 years now and I am even his only Son's Godfather
  • timmertimmer
    edited July 2011 Posts: 4,622
    sometime I wonder how me and my friend have been friends for 27 years now and I am even his only Son's Godfather
    He's obviously in awe of you because you hang out at bars with movie stars.:p

    More seriously, religion is arguably the most important thing in one's life but it also should be the last thing that comes between all people of good will.


  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    sometime I wonder how me and my friend have been friends for 27 years now and I am even his only Son's Godfather
    He's obviously in awe of you because you hang out at bars with movie stars.:p

    More seriously, religion is arguably the most important thing in one's life but it also should be the last thing that comes between all people of good will.


    no, I sold him his first home 27 years ago and they still live there!

  • timmertimmer
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    no, I sold him his first home 27 years ago and they still live there!

    But he probably likes the Zellwegger story too. ;-)

  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    no, I sold him his first home 27 years ago and they still live there!

    But he probably likes the Zellwegger story too. ;-)

    Yeah I told him that story and he used to go to Gentlemen's Club with us until his wife put a stop to it....

    women!!
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