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I really doubt someone like Sam Mendes pays any attention to various dubbings made for his movies. And why should he?
Getafix, are you for the UK or the US ? For people outside the UK/US here, dubbing is a hot topic, because in big cities, this is a choice we have to make almost every time we go the movies to see a foreign movie. And well, for France at least, dubbing has changed a lot over time as far as Bond is concerned (becoming more and more bland, I'd say). In the UK and even more in the US, dubbed vs subtitles is not such a problem, because they don't even really release foreign movies to large audiences anyway, do they ?
Yes please!
The thing is, there is a thread now for this specific OFF TOPIC subject and whilst I'm sure you all have very valid comments about it, it's relevance isn't really that germane to this thread. It has been very very tedious and not remotely of interest to me as it seems to be for others here too. Whilst being a hot topic for you, dubbing and subtitles never normally ever enters my thoughts with film watching.
I want to read about the ideas, observations & discussion about the teaser trailer - funnily enough, the title of this thread.
I agree, but the shot probably takes place early on in the film in real time as it were. I reckon SP takes place atleast 3 months, possibly up to 6 after SF, with Bond having been tracking this Sciarra fellow in the interim.
Maybe it's a shot for the trailer, or seen in flashback. Though flash backs are not very bond.
They move into Whitehall at the end of SF. Perhaps there's some bureaucratic reasons for ditching the building, maybe they intend to tear it down. It signifies the Dench 'M' era. Could be many reasons.
My hypothesis: budget cuts in government. They "temporary" movie the service in Whitehall.
I think it was in one of the pre-release interviews, maybe Charlie Rose or even the press conference in December. He stated the reason he wanted to come back was to explore who these characters were moving forward and pick up the story 2 years later and see where they have got to.
After all, this is fiction, if Mendes wants the Mi6 building to be in a broken and dilapidated state for 2-3 years then, it's his world, he's more than welcome to.
I think it's a good idea to leave it like that, it serves a symbolic function. It's a vestige of the past and a hallmark of Dench's era as M and like her legacy it's crumbling and falling about.
The practical reasons as to why the building as been left to fester for two years makes sense to. Firstly, Mi6 have safely relocated since the initial attack so there is not need to restore its old home. Secondly, the amount of bureaucratic red-tape that needs to be cut through to destroy a building especially one of such previous significance would be immense. Furthermore, if anyone has any understanding of the British Government, they have an big problem with taking their time to do anything. I'd imagine the old Vauxhall building in SP will be filled with homeless people and drug addicts by now.
Also, with enough structural damage, they may have had to remove parts of the exterior to prevent further collapse.
This is, of course, conjecture.
This is what I'm wondering - it would be stretching belief for another explosion!
The source of the blast is focussed in the heart of the front face and whilst there would be whole sections of the building complex still useable, maybe the sprinkler system was disabled by Silva when he triggered the explosion & subsequent fires?
This.
In reality there'd be tonnes of scaffolding and temporary plastic sheeting or boarding that would disguise the structure much like many landmark buildings would when they're having a facelift. Even with bureaucracy slowing everything and tying it in knots there would be some effort to do this even if there's bickering on who does the repairs
Maybe the Government is being given the run around by their Insurance if such a thing exists or would this be the Treasury!
Instead we get a very symbolic piece with Bond motoring up the Thames in the RIB past the old rotten and apparently abandoned hulk.
Dammit, that would be interesting to see.
I wonder if this is Jez Butterworth's dialogue. This and "I always knew death would wear a familiar face" are very poetic, along with Silva's line "Life clung to me like a disease". We didn't hear stuff like this in CR and QOS so I suspect these flourishes are what Butterworth is bringing to the script.
Would like more of the same please!
Not totally sure whether Bond is the vehicle for such narrative mind but hey, he's supposed to be cultured/well read and an expert in everything you care to think of, why not the written word?
Maybe...I guess dialogue like this wouldn't be out of place on Penny Dreadful. But there's something about it that feels like playwright's dialogue
And he's at his best with dialogues.
Works well with the character IMO.
But we did hear that in OHMSS for instance. Michael Reed's added dialogue added some poetic vibes in it. Especially when Tracy and Blofeld are discussing the dawn, in the alpine room. Or when Blofeld is giving his speech about the Siamese fighting fish in FRWL. That kind of lines/dialogue.......you know, I'm quite happy Butterworth/Logan picked that up again. It's truly a trademark of the Bond franchise.
Also the interesting mark on the gentlemen on the right in the photo.