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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    What do I want? Something like these...

    http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/09/26/3_028-029_frwl_opt-7e46b255c056ad98ddadaaf87600e3423b954977.jpg

    http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/09/26/4_044-045_frwl_opt_custom-a094a757e9800a3f42a9826621721d218002c2f2.jpg

    http://i2.cdnds.net/12/20/618x928/movies_james_bond_poster_gallery_10.jpg

    http://i2.cdnds.net/12/20/618x935/movies_james_bond_poster_gallery_4.jpg

    http://www.panicposters.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/f63dc5ec28f3175f8a7f615bd217eb71/p/p/pp433-james-bond-dr-no-illust.jpg
  • andmcitandmcit
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    I'm with you all the way @BradyM0Bondfanatic7 and I'm just showing the mindset these days and not the justification for it. I'm an artist illustrator living in a DTP world of stupid needed yesterday deadlines - there is no luxury of massive lead times, not anymore the mindset is fast and as cheap as.

    Even the mighty Sony EON empire will fret about the bottom line and getting a job done for the lowest cost in the quickest time and the DTP photo manipulation way is the modern quick fix way to do things.

    Even a decent photo shoot with attendant cast and minions will cost £1000's anyway so they're not then going to chuck it all away because an extremely talented visionary illustrator artist has a work of art to offer instead. It doesn't happen very often let's put it like that. If course there are 1000's of professional illustrators who could run rings around the disappointing fare offered like the newest teaser. Even when some would even happily offer work for free in such a project the realism of photographs rules all the way now. Like I say, I don't like it either but that's the way it is until trends and styles change and illustrative skill is rewarded and recognised once more.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I'm not going to argue with you @andmcit as you clearly know more about the business than me but why does using photos mean we have to endure something so uninspiring?

    Compare the CR teaser to this and the gulf is embarrassing. One is dramatic, atmospheric and gives you a flavour of the film. The other is just a bloke.

    How did anyone even pitch this as a concept?
    'Here's what I've come up with - brace yourselves - Bond holding a gun standing in front of a grey screen!! What do you think?'

    And rather than just telling him to get out everyone has looked at each other and said 'Yeah that really works for me.'

    Pathetic.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I think the Spectre teaser is great, iconic with a wink to LALD. Thank god the days of the awful DAD teasers are behind us....CGI ices and tacky lettering.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I wouldn't classify this as a big step up. At least the Brosnan posters had a sense of dynamic movement to them. This one is just Bond standing there, doing nothing interesting. Even his pose is something we've seen ad nauseam. I just don't think it's too much to ask to expect the people they're hiring for these jobs to be more creative.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I personally think the classic Craig posters have offered a 'classy' less is more look. Unlike the messy CGI Brosnan days. Don't get me wrong I still like the old style Connery/ Lazenby/ Moore/ era artwork. I just don't like the ones that 'look' like they were devised on a Computer.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    I think the Spectre teaser is great, iconic with a wink to LALD. Thank god the days of the awful DAD teasers are behind us....CGI ices and tacky lettering.

    The DAD teaser is fantastic. The hot gun melting into the ice is just like a Chopping book cover. Yes the font looks a bit stupid today but then so does TB's 'L007k Up, L007k Down, L007k Out!' It doesn't prevent either of them from being awesome. In any event I don't think it's the lettering anyone has a problem with its the lacklustre concept of Bond just standing there.

    Mind you are we being over harsh? Is it any worse than the TLD, LTK and GE teasers? Well yes IMO but it's difficult to articulate why. They are all just Bond with a gun but somehow seem so much more interesting. Is it just nostalgia talking? Perhaps I should cut some slack to EON for signing off on this?

    Nah bugger it - it's shite!
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I disagree, it's classic and iconic. TLD, LTK are GE teasers are also good. DAD posters looked like Disney annimations/ childish and fake. The later DAD posters were even worse....tacky.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    The later DAD posters were even worse....tacky.

    I'm with you there. Appalling - particularly the way Halle Berry got practically equal billing like it was a buddy movie.
  • JCRendleJCRendle
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    The later DAD posters were even worse....tacky.

    I'm with you there. Appalling - particularly the way Halle Berry got practically equal billing like it was a buddy movie.
    Exactly! Jinx was obviously the main character! ;)
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
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    I'm pretty sure if back in the day they had digital cameras and photoshop, they wouldn't have used paintings.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    If they had of had 3d posters back then they would have used them too, I guess. ;)
  • andmcitandmcit
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    Bear in mind, whilst painting the graphic design team here as totally lazy and unimaginative, the finished result presented to you and I has been steered or 'filtered' by someone "the client" who ultimately makes the decisions, whoever this may be - Mendes? I doubt it. Whomever, they may passionately hate busy dynamic multi faceted narrative posters despite a legion of designers presenting such ideas & layout like reams of wallpaper.

    Often as not, it's too easy for them to maintain the easy, play it safe mindset. despite seeking professional advice. Many are so entrenched in what they KNOW they want they get given exactly that (and what they deserve).

    Some of the best work gets it's legs cut out from under it before even getting a chance. The problem is, every man woman and child will have a firm view about this kind of thing and will be more than happy to make sure their feelings are known about how they see something should be done. When I go to the dentist I'll trust his professional judgement and experience and just be damned happy the results don't hurt too much not stop him half way through and tell him how he should do it.

    As is often the way, many will go to the trouble of hiring a guard dog and still bark themselves...
  • antovolkantovolk
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    You win FOX - CAbLr0eVAAAx02B.jpg:large
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    :)) great poster.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I wonder if they are going to do what they did with SF, and release similar in your face photos for each major character. I seem to recall them doing that for that movie - with each character looking at the camera against a white background in that case. Perhaps the DC photo is just the first for SP, in which case I am not so critical of it.

    If not, then it deserves all the criticism it's getting for being boring, motionless & uncreative. The CR one is by far better, and as has been mentioned, really gives us a flavour for the movie's theme - one of the best ones they've done in recent years.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Can you download that SPECTRE font anywhere? Anyone here have it?
  • antovolkantovolk
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    NickTwentyTwo wrote: »
    Can you download that SPECTRE font anywhere? Anyone here have it?

    The exact one used by Sony is a custom version of Faux Occident based on Gotham. So not really no :P

  • JCRendleJCRendle
    Posts: 1,552
    There are similar fonts for free, nothing exactly right that I've found.

    http://www.fontspace.com/rafael-dinner/diamond
    http://www.fontspace.com/the-fontry/race1-brannt-ncv

    Or there's one you have to pay for, which is close, called faux-occident

    https://playtype.com/font/faux-occident (Warning: Do not click on this link if you have epilepsy)
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Cool guys, thanks!
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    andmcit wrote: »
    Bear in mind, whilst painting the graphic design team here as totally lazy and unimaginative, the finished result presented to you and I has been steered or 'filtered' by someone "the client" who ultimately makes the decisions, whoever this may be - Mendes? I doubt it. Whomever, they may passionately hate busy dynamic multi faceted narrative posters despite a legion of designers presenting such ideas & layout like reams of wallpaper.

    Often as not, it's too easy for them to maintain the easy, play it safe mindset. despite seeking professional advice. Many are so entrenched in what they KNOW they want they get given exactly that (and what they deserve).

    Some of the best work gets it's legs cut out from under it before even getting a chance. The problem is, every man woman and child will have a firm view about this kind of thing and will be more than happy to make sure their feelings are known about how they see something should be done. When I go to the dentist I'll trust his professional judgement and experience and just be damned happy the results don't hurt too much not stop him half way through and tell him how he should do it.

    As is often the way, many will go to the trouble of hiring a guard dog and still bark themselves...

    Yes naturally we are not slagging off any graphic artist out there who put this together as he is only doing what he is told. Poor guy probably has 100 better ideas and just has to hold his tongue as the corporate studio moron tells him what will play best with the public.
  • andmcitandmcit
    Posts: 1,068
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    andmcit wrote: »
    Bear in mind, whilst painting the graphic design team here as totally lazy and unimaginative, the finished result presented to you and I has been steered or 'filtered' by someone "the client" who ultimately makes the decisions, whoever this may be - Mendes? I doubt it. Whomever, they may passionately hate busy dynamic multi faceted narrative posters despite a legion of designers presenting such ideas & layout like reams of wallpaper.

    Often as not, it's too easy for them to maintain the easy, play it safe mindset. despite seeking professional advice. Many are so entrenched in what they KNOW they want they get given exactly that (and what they deserve).

    Some of the best work gets it's legs cut out from under it before even getting a chance. The problem is, every man woman and child will have a firm view about this kind of thing and will be more than happy to make sure their feelings are known about how they see something should be done. When I go to the dentist I'll trust his professional judgement and experience and just be damned happy the results don't hurt too much not stop him half way through and tell him how he should do it.

    As is often the way, many will go to the trouble of hiring a guard dog and still bark themselves...

    Yes naturally we are not slagging off any graphic artist out there who put this together as he is only doing what he is told. Poor guy probably has 100 better ideas and just has to hold his tongue as the corporate studio moron tells him what will play best with the public.

    That'd be about right, that's how it usually goes.

    Has there been an elimination vote for the best poster in the whole series thread yet? I can guess where CR and SP would end up!
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    james_bond_teaser_posters_1979_2012_by_espioartwork_102-d821k6j.jpg

    After viewing some of these. The SP teaser doesn't look so bad.
    Personally I like it anyway. The TWINE flame girl and QOS shadow are not the best imo.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    Sark wrote: »
    Someone asked this in another thread as a defense against the blandness criticisms:
    How so? It's a tease poster. Not a trailer. How much more could they show?

    to which my only response is:

    Casino_Royale_poster.jpeg

    I know which one I'd hang on my wall.

    I agree. The CR teaser was a lot classier.
  • andmcitandmcit
    Posts: 1,068
    You know, that's not a bad rule of thumb to follow with these: would you want it framed and hanging on your wall.

    I don't think either SP are dynamic enough to do this, however clever the tentacles bullet in the broken glass idea may seem. In fact, apart from CR, there's little redeeming features about many of them shown in your post @benny.

    I've always liked AVTAK and MR principally because they're painted
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Benny wrote: »
    james_bond_teaser_posters_1979_2012_by_espioartwork_102-d821k6j.jpg

    After viewing some of these. The SP teaser doesn't look so bad.
    Personally I like it anyway. The TWINE flame girl and QOS shadow are not the best imo.

    I think the SP one is vying with the GE and TND ones for bottom place though. You may not like the TWINE or QOS ones but at least there is an artistic concept in there. Personally I don't like that particular OP one but at least some thought has gone into it.
    andmcit wrote: »
    You know, that's not a bad rule of thumb to follow with these: would you want it framed and hanging on your wall.

    I don't think either SP are dynamic enough to do this, however clever the tentacles bullet in the broken glass idea may seem. In fact, apart from CR, there's little redeeming features about many of them shown in your post @benny.

    I've always liked AVTAK and MR principally because they're painted

    I agree. I love that particular AVTAK one and used to have it on my wall - it harks back to the great YOLT volcano one.
  • JET007JET007
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    hanging on the wall is a great qualifier and I've been meaning to have my CR quality framed. I used to have the GE and TWINE posters up. I always thought TWINE was evocative of the main title sequence!
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Ive got an enormous window cling of Casino Royale advertising the DVD release that I grabbed when I worked at Rogers Video way back in 2007
    No wall big enough to put it up though, really, although I might try to hang it somewhere!
  • Jack_WadeJack_Wade
    Posts: 125
    I really liked this second teaser poster for SPECTRE, but my only complaint is that in Daniel Craig's era all the posters have been very simple, with the image in the center of Daniel Craig only.

    Here, to make the comparison, the poster of Daniel Craig:

    Casino Royale (2006)

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    Quantum Of Solace (2008)

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    SkyFall (2012)

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    SPECTRE (2015)

    2q33h4o.png

    ;)
  • tqbtqb
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    I believe Greg Williams, the same guy who does the Bond on Set books is the one who makes the posters- http://gregwilliams.com/photos/advertising/movie-posters-2/
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