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Try to bring the Bond movies in a chronological order :)

mirandafrostmirandafrost
in Bond Movies Posts: 368
Hey Bond laddies,
I tried that when I had a lot of time since I was ill for a week... ;)
I especially looked at the events (e.g. Tracy's death and Felix), references in movies to others and persons appearing.
The order that came out was:
CR
QOS
DN
FRWL
GF
TB
YOLT
DAF
TMWTGG
OHMSS
FYEO
GE
AVTAK
TSWLM
MR
TND
TWINE
DAD
OP
TLD
LALD
LTK
SF
Curious what you come up with... :)
P.S.: I looked for a similar thread but I couldn't find one. I'm sorry if there already is one like that...

Comments

  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
    Posts: 3,566
    I suspect this is a task doomed to end in frustration...but by all means, give it a try. Some questions: why do you put TMWTGG after DAF & before OHMSS? At the beginning of Her Majesty's, Bond has been obsessively searching for Blofeld, and nearly quits the service when M tries to reassign him. That would make sense if OHMSS followed DAF (Bond would suspect that Blofeld had survived the bathysub fiasco at the close of DAF, and want to put him away forever) but it doesn't quite follow with Golden Gun's solex agitator as a distraction in the middle of Bond's Blofeld obsession. How do you reconcile these points? Why did you decide to put TMWTGG where it is?
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
    edited March 2015 Posts: 12,480
    Trying to establish any true continuity in the Bond series is hell.
    Or a sure ticket to the nuthouse.
    :D
  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
    Posts: 3,566
    For that matter, your scenarios shows Bond first meeting Leiter in CR, and they work "together" again in QoS...but then in DN they need to reintroduce themselves. Why is that (aside from the fact that two entirely different people are playing both roles, so maybe both had undergone extensive plastic surgery)? Like I say, it's a worthwhile ambition...but I think it's one that's ultimately going to end in frustration. Still, if it's fun and doesn't hurt anybody, I guess that's justification enough!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,362
    I count Craig's Universe as a separate reality.


    Original Timeline
    Dr. No
    Goldfinger
    From Russia With Love
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds are Forever
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Live and Let Die
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    A View to a Kill

    Reboot #1
    GoldenEye (PTS ONLY)
    The Living Daylights
    Licence to Kill
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is Not Enough
    Die Another Day

    Reboot #2
    Casino Royale
    Quantum of Solace
    Skyfall
    SPECTRE
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,362
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I like the splitting of GOLDENEYE, @Murdock , I wish that I'd thought of doing that. But go out on a limb, let's see how'd you'd incorporate your three lists.

    Alright. I'll make one big giant continuity strand Though I won't include SPECTRE until I see it. ;)

    Casino Royale
    Quantum of Solace
    Dr. No
    Skyfall
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds are Forever
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    GoldenEye (PTS)
    The Living Daylights
    Live and Let Die
    Licence to Kill
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    GoldenEye
    Moonraker
    Die Another Day
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    The World is Not Enough
    A View to A Kill
    Never Say Never Again
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,835
    Murdock wrote: »

    GoldenEye (PTS ONLY)
    The Living Daylights
    Licence to Kill
    GoldenEye

    Officer thinking, Lieutenant! =D>
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    Obviously we will have to see how the next 2 films pan out? But I believe Craig's films are set before Dr No, We are all aware that CR and QOS were his first mission, but now that Mr White is back in the mix, I am going to stick to my belief that SF and now SP are set before Dr No too.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,339
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Obviously we will have to see how the next 2 films pan out? But I believe Craig's films are set before Dr No, We are all aware that CR and QOS were his first mission, but now that Mr White is back in the mix, I am going to stick to my belief that SF and now SP are set before Dr No too.

    that would depend on the age of the organisation SPECTRE. If it's erected in the film, you're right, but if it's ressurected or has been there all along, not necesseraly so..

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @Murdock there is a slight issue with your list, since GE takes place after the Cold War, yet you place it before OP, where the cold war is still ongoing ;) AVTAK and MR could be taken as post-Cold War films, mind. But then the evil nazi doctor in AVTAK would be getting quite old ;)
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,339
    Birdleson wrote: »
    It's all personal preference. None of it makes sense in any way under scrutiny.
    Well that makes this such a great threat, right? But the existence of the Soviet union or Spectre might be conceived as fairly substantial.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    I'm pretty sure that SPECTRE will mix things up even more.

    - SF clearly should be set before the other movies because Moneypenny gets estabilished in this movie, but in FRWL she said she's never been to Istanbul, contradicting SF.
    - Female M, male M, female M again wouldn't make much sense.
    - In DN, Bond clearly has never heard of Spectre (as an organization), thus SPECTRE (movie) is set after DN. However, I believe that SPECTRE will be introduced to Bond in the movie of the same name.
    - Same thing with Felix Leiter (as mentioned above): Bond and Felix first meeting happening twice doesn't make sense.
    - Time period and actor's ages being pretty evident
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited March 2015 Posts: 1,596
    To make things easy:

    * CR & QOS
    * DN-DAD
    * SF

    All one timeline, all one man, with different aspects of that man brought out by different actors. And yes, obviously it makes no sense, but thematically it works I suppose.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited March 2015 Posts: 4,423
    I prefer to think of the Bond series as an Ouroboros - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

    with CR, QoS, DN-DAD, SF all in constant flux.

    God knows how SP with affect it.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,526
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Obviously we will have to see how the next 2 films pan out? But I believe Craig's films are set before Dr No, We are all aware that CR and QOS were his first mission, but now that Mr White is back in the mix, I am going to stick to my belief that SF and now SP are set before Dr No too.

    that would depend on the age of the organisation SPECTRE. If it's erected in the film, you're right, but if it's ressurected or has been there all along, not necesseraly so..

    It will certainly be interesting to see how they handle it?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Absolutely. Now let's see what I can come up with in 5 minutes..

    - Casino Royale - Bond starts his career, obviously.
    - Quantum of Solace - CR part 2.
    - Goldfinger - stand alone mission.
    - Live and Let Die - another one, and should about fit the times.
    - Octopussy - Soviets weren't at their best.
    - Moonraker - the stakes get higher, east and west might need to cooperate sometimes, leading to
    - The Spy Who Loved Me - Bond vs Soviets as a love- hate relationship. and here-abouts we get another one to play:
    - Dr. No - SPECTRE is introduced.
    - From Russia With Love - and gets pissed off, and by now the Russians clearly know who Bond is so the story would fit in.
    - Thunderball - It's another SPECTRE scheme. Might be before FRWL as well.
    - You Only Live Twice - and another SPECTRE scheme.
    - On Her Majesty's Secret Service - time Bond really kicked Blofeld in the nuts, but as it turns out it goes the other way 'round.
    - Diamonds are Forever - Bond is off for revenge.
    - For Your Eyes Only - still thinking of Tracy, drops a random bald guy down a chimney. No cats were hurt during this episode. and anyway, they have nine lives... but so does bald guy!
    - A View to A Kill- well it needs to fit in somewhere.
    - The Man With The Golden Gun - as does this one.
    - GoldenEye (PTS) - soviet era comes to a close, but not yet.
    - The Living Daylights - as a crazy Dutch guy manages to become a Russian General you know you're empire days are ending.
    - Licence to Kill- as we were on drugs anyway. er, I mena, drug hunt!
    - GoldenEye - and so an era ends.
    -The World is Not Enough - but we still have those Russian nukes to care about.
    - Tomorrow Never Dies - and now the media are getting rubbish.
    - Skyfall - old dog. Oh, and a newly appointed secretary, probably family of the last one.
    - Die Another Day - talking about old dogs..















  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 6,023
    Murdock wrote: »
    I count Craig's Universe as a separate reality.


    Original Timeline
    Dr. No
    Goldfinger
    From Russia With Love
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds are Forever
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Live and Let Die
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    A View to a Kill

    Reboot #1
    GoldenEye (PTS ONLY)
    The Living Daylights
    Licence to Kill
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is Not Enough
    Die Another Day

    Reboot #2
    Casino Royale
    Quantum of Solace
    Skyfall
    SPECTRE

    The problem, Murdock, is that there is no "reboot # 1". Because we see references to events in the "Original Timeline" : Mention made of Bond's tragic wedding in LTK, and the old gadgets (which Bond knows how to use) in DAD. For Craig, I do agree : there are too many things that preclude those films to be part of the preceding 20 others' continuity (Felix Leiter, for one).
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
    Posts: 2,029
    Frankly, this makes my head hurt.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,362
    Gerard wrote: »
    The problem, Murdock, is that there is no "reboot # 1". Because we see references to events in the "Original Timeline" : Mention made of Bond's tragic wedding in LTK, and the old gadgets (which Bond knows how to use) in DAD. For Craig, I do agree : there are too many things that preclude those films to be part of the preceding 20 others' continuity (Felix Leiter, for one).

    A lot of the same events happen during reboots. But you have to take certain things into account such as the 57 year old Moore suddenly becoming the 41 year old Dalton and such. Perhaps a Soft Reboot is a better term.
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