How would Cubby Broccoli have done Casino Royale differently

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    This is is an interesting topic. CR was always the property that evaded the producers for years, so what would have happened had each Bond got their own adaptation?

    Sean Connery: I think a lot depends on when in his era CR would have been adapted. If it was still early-on (Pre-Goldfinger), I think we would have got a very faithful version of the story. Any later, it may have suffered from overkill. I think an early Connery version of CR would be like FRWL and OHMSS coming together. I think had CR been made in 1964 with Terence Young directing, it would arguably have been the best Bond film.

    Roger Moore: The book would be totally wasted. They would have cut out the card game as it would probably be considered too dull, add a comic female character or alternatively drop the Vesper character entirely as her suicide would be a far too dark and ending. Many of the story beats would be entirely abandoned replaced with copious action sequences.

    Timothy Dalton: I think it could possibly reach for greatness but ultimately fall short of its grasp. CR isn't a story I feel is very '80's friendly and, as such, the chic 1950's style would have been lost on Dalton's Bond more gaudy era where the production values were on the skids. Having said that, if Dalton was given a chance to do this story he would have given a stunning performance.

    Pierce Brosnan: Action overkill. Puns overload. I guess it wouldn't be dissimilar to a Moore film attempting to do an impression of a Craig era movie. All in all, a bit of an embarrassment. I'm glad Brosnan didn't get a crack at it, his acting is distracting at best and repellent at worst.

    A better question would be: Who would play Le Chiffre, Mathis and Vesper in each respective actors film?

    For Brosnan, I think Brian Cox for Le Chiffre:
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    Catherine Zeta-Jones for Vesper:
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    Jean Reno for Mathis:
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  • RC7RC7
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    I'm glad Brosnan didn't get a crack at it, his acting is distracting at best and repellent at worst.

    Harsh. Brosnan in 95, no way. Brosnan in 87, could've been a cracker. As it is, the CR 06 is definitive.
  • MansfieldMansfield Where the hell have you been?
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    Does the topic seek to answer how Cubby would have done Casino Royale differently if he had the opportunity to produce it during his lifetime or at the time it was produced had he still been alive?

    One thing that I believe does the film enormous credit as it stands in time was the decision to change the game from baccarat to poker. From a popular standpoint, it was an obvious creative liberty to take with the frenzy surrounding the poker boom in the early 2000s. It also serves the film well critically by maximizing the strength of the dialogue and performances between Craig and Mikkelsen since the game develops into a battle of wits. Especially when Bond starts getting the better of Le Chiffre and has his martini spiked, Bond comes back with one of the most memorable lines his character has ever produced with, "That last hand... nearly killed me." That's an atmosphere that Cubby would not and could not have created by producing the film in his lifetime.
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    The topic is about how Cubby would have produced the film, but the latter is an interesting question as well
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    I'm thinking of a 1962 adaptation with Sean Connery. Will get back to you with a synopsis.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    If Cubby had done Casino Bond would have arrived in Venice in a flying Gondola.
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    Pierce2Daniel said:
    Roger Moore: The book would be totally wasted. They would have cut out the card game as it would probably be considered too dull, add a comic female character or alternatively drop the Vesper character entirely as her suicide would be a far too dark and ending. Many of the story beats would be entirely abandoned replaced with copious action sequences.

    I shudder to think what CR with RM would have looked like. It would probably have opened with some sort of airplane stunt with RM parachuting into the casino pool. LeChiffre would have had a glass eye with an x-ray laser. Q would have supplied Bond with a deck of cards in which the values on the cards could be changed with a trick watch. Bond would later be strapped to a chair in full tux with LeChiffre telling Bond all the terrible things that would happen to him after he leaves the building. Bond cuts the ropes with his razor-ring. The end comes for Vesper when Bond says he "must pull out now" and leaves her heartbroken, but better for having met the spy who loved her for a while.

    Though not perfect for me, I am so glad we got CR. I believe I have watched that film more than any other Bond film.



  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    It would not have been a reboot, nor would it have had the abysmal dialogue. And had it still been made in 2006, I can't imagine Broccoli (senior) casting Craig. It would all really depend on at what stage in the series would they have gotten around to CR.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited April 2015 Posts: 5,131
    If Cubby did it in the 60's it would have been good and followed Fleming. If later it wouldn't have been as well made as the 2006 CR and we wouldn't have been given the excellent Craig (the best Bond and Bond film since 1965's TB).
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited April 2015 Posts: 13,978
    If it had been made in the 1960's, and was closer to Dr No, From Russia With Love or On Her Majesty's Secret Service, it could have been good. I would have preferred it to have been made in the 1990's with Dalton. I see no reason for it not to have been made in recent times, but there was a lot of room for improvement in the 2006 film. Loose Craig, the reboot angle, and heavily re-write the dialogue, for starters. Instant improvements right there.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Much as I like Dalton, I hold Craig as the best Bond since Sir Sean, so I'll have to disagree there.
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    I suspect most of the torture scene would have occurred offscreen.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited April 2015 Posts: 13,978
    It's not as if what we saw could have been taken out of a Lucio Fulci film. But not seeing most of it could still be used effectively. The film makers just need to make us think that we have seen what we think we have seen.

    @Pierce2Daniel, I like the idea of Catherine Zeta-Jones as Vesper.
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