The UK General Election

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  • Posts: 1,552
    DrGorner wrote: »
    A question about the Election. In the US, during an election the president and
    Who ever is running against him, gets police/ secret service protection. So
    Would anyone know in the UK, do all politicians get police protection, when out
    and about. Or does it depend on how many MPs the party has etc. Or do they
    Have to pay for their own security ?
    They have security, but nothing like the Secret Service in the U.S. - they like to be seen as "off the people", mingling around the commoners ;)
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited May 2015 Posts: 9,117
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    DrGorner wrote: »
    Isn't there an old expression that Politics is showbiz, for ugly people ? :D

    The only fit politician I know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Maréchal-Le_Pen

    If its a choice between her or Nicola Sturgeon theres no choice. And I'd also rather shag her too!

    Theres nothing like intelligent political debate is there?




    You seem to have forgotten about Caroline Flint MP, Minister for Pleasure:

    flint1.jpg

    Back in the day certainly but at 53 shes knocking on a bit now isnt she Draggers? Monica Bellucci at 50 is still fair enough but Caroline was never anywhere near being in that league.
  • edited May 2015 Posts: 4,619
    Welcome to your opinion, however after doing a candid interview on the BBC during the referendum criticising the White paper I received death threats and was spat on, I actually went to Ibiza for 3 weeks to get away from it all.

    I have never been to Scotland, but I suspect that a lot of SNP voters are voting for SNP exactly because they could never afford a 3 week trip to Ibiza. What I mean by that is that they are fed up with the income inequality of the UK (one of the highest in Europe), and that the main parties are heavily influenced by a small group of very wealthy people.

    Developed small countries are usually the most stable and prosperous anyway (with or without any oil)... Anyway, can you share a link to the interview?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited May 2015 Posts: 18,281
    Yes, I suppose you are right regarding Caroline Flint, @Wiz.

    Another contender in the glamour stakes:

    Here's the beautiful and hard-working Jo-Anne Dobson MLA, who is running for the Upper Bann seat in Northern Ireland for the Ulster Unionists:

    joanne1.jpg

    JoanneDobson.jpg

    I really hope she wins it as she is in with a good chance against the incumbent DUP MP David Simpson.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Yes, I suppose you are right regarding Caroline Flint, @Wiz.

    Another contender in the glamour stakes:

    Here's the beautiful and hard-working Jo-Anne Dobson MLA, who is running for the Upper Bann seat in Northern Ireland for the Ulster Unionists:

    joanne1.jpg

    JoanneDobson.jpg

    I really hope she wins it as she is in with a good chance against the incumbent DUP MP David Simpson.

    Yeah thats not too bad. Just as long as she hasnt got a shocking Ian Paisley accent?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Not really, but judge for yourself:

  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Didn't the Italians have an MP with big Boobs ? ( no not Eric Pickles) Ilona Staller. ;)
  • Posts: 12,526
    Almost decision time peeps!!
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    So, where do I go to register?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Another old quote ( apologies, if it's already been used)
    " The problem with political jokes, is that they usually get elected !" ;)
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    edited May 2015 Posts: 2,138
    patb wrote: »
    Is NS a disgusting mutant?

    Shes certainly no looker.
    Nah politics and religion are too inflamatory, it only leads to trouble.You might be mature enough for such discussion but guess what Pat your are few within the many.

    I think all @patb is asking for is an intelligent debate. It seems a shame to abandon the discussion because you cant refrain from calling people mutants.

    That's great that's what the comments section of the gaurdian newspaper site is for.
    Welcome to your opinion, however after doing a candid interview on the BBC during the referendum criticising the White paper I received death threats and was spat on, I actually went to Ibiza for 3 weeks to get away from it all.

    I have never been to Scotland, but I suspect that a lot of SNP voters are voting for SNP exactly because they could never afford a 3 week trip to Ibiza. What I mean by that is that they are fed up with the income inequality of the UK (one of the highest in Europe), and that the main parties are heavily influenced by a small group of very wealthy people.

    Developed small countries are usually the most stable and prosperous anyway (with or without any oil)... Anyway, can you share a link to the interview?

    Can't agree Scotland under the Barnet Formula already receives more per head public spending per capita than anywhere else in the UK. That money is sent to Holyrood and the SNP the ruling party already decide how that is spent. Don't believe the propaganda from the SNP that Scotland gets a poor deal. Scottish people get a poor deal because the SNP don't invest the money in the correct services. Did you know the SNP voted to back the last round of Torry proposed welfare cuts??. The SNP are dishonest deliberately to create an is V them mentality for their own agenda Independence because they want out of the UK government to move to a Norwegian style version of democracy.

    PS I left school with no qualifications I got a free college education and support from the UK Government. I worked in a warehouse to a call centre before working in insurance my hobbies in music led to a full time job in production and then as CEO of a global EDM brand. I did not come from money I took advantage of the help available to me that's available to everyone and I worked hard. That's a big problem too many expect hand outs and are scared to ask how to get from A to B and put the work in. To quote JFK "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country".
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    Anyone considering voting for one party for their local council but a different party for government?
  • RC7RC7
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    JCRendle wrote: »
    Anyone considering voting for one party for their local council but a different party for government?

    Very possibly. My council tax is the cheapest in the country and I intend to keep it that way.
  • Posts: 1,552
    Just voted - turns out my constituency is only voting for the parliamentary elections and not local council this time around.
  • edited May 2015 Posts: 1,661
    I reckon James Bond would vote Conservative. His posh upbringing and all that! ;)

    The Green Party want to abolish the Royal Family. If they won power it would be James Bond in:

    On The Republic's Secret Service

    :D
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    Anyone care to offer an opinion what party James Bond would vote for?

    I guess Conservative. Posh upbringing and all that! ;)
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    From Edward Biddulph of the ever-brilliant James Bond memes blog:

    http://jamesbondmemes.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/how-would-james-bond-vote-in-general.html
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I too think Bond would be a conservative voter, but not a supporter of the more
    Extreme right wing of the party.
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    conservative with a small "c" perhaps ?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Yes, I sometimes wonder if I'm a bit odd. ;) as I like some Conservative ideas,
    And Some Labour ideas, even some Liberal etc. So I'm always trying to make
    Decisions on voting, right up to the last minute. :)
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    he's a defo Torrie, Flemings father was a Torry MP.
  • edited May 2015 Posts: 4,619
    Fleming's Bond would definitely vote for the Conservatives, but I really doubt Craig's Bond would do the same thing. I see him either as a Liberal Democrat voter or someone who doesn't care about the elections.
  • RC7RC7
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    Fleming's Bond would definitely vote for the Conservatives, but I really doubt Craig's Bond would do the same thing. I see him as a Liberal Democrat voter or someone who doesn't care about the elections.

    I'd imagine his Bond would be ambivalent. I imagine DC himself is probably Labour.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    edited May 2015 Posts: 13,384
    Sam Mendes is a lib supporter along with John Cleese, we know Sir Sean is
    SNP , would anyone know if any other Bond actors have expressed any
    Opinions on politics ?
    Forgot to add Honour Blackman is a bit of a Republican, who doesn't believe in
    Keeping the royal family and has refused being made a Dame. She did say it
    Was a bit odd of Connery to accept a knighthood when he was an SNP supporter.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
    Posts: 2,138
    DrGorner wrote: »
    Sam Mendes is a lib supporter along with John Cleese, we know Sir Sean is
    SNP , would anyone know if any other Bond actors have expressed any
    Opinions on politics ?
    Forgot to add Honour Blackman is a bit of a Republican, who doesn't believe in
    Keeping the royal family and has refused being made a Dame. She did say it
    Was a bit odd of Connery to accept a knighthood when he was an SNP supporter.

    Sean Bean - Old School Labour
    Ralph Fiennes may be UKIP his cousin Ranulph Fiennes is a UKIP patron.
    Alan cumming - SNP
    Robert Carlisle - SNP
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    Interesting, I didn't know that about Ranulph Fiennes.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Sir Roger Moore is a life-long Conservative.
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    Are there actually people in here who adhere to the opposite word of "Conservatives"? That is..."Progressives"? In all honesty, I am 200% progressive. And I find it sometimes a bit worrying that we lost the meaning of this word, especially during elections.

    If one did study Political Science, then I'm wondering if someone in here has seen this graph before. It's the "Political Landscape Graph" that I usually look at during our elections (The Netherlands):
    Pol-landschap-2010.gif

    The graph is divided into "Left", "Conservative", "Right" and "Progressive". Being progressive does not necessarily mean that one is a leftist, and being conservative doesn't necessarily mean that one is right-wing.

    Actually, the division "Left-Right" is usually about "state run by government" vs. "free market thinking". But if one is left-wing, this could still mean certain left-wing ideas are actually very conservative. For instance, not changing government-run health care, and keeping it like it is; status quo. The other thing can be said about right-wing-minded people, who could sometimes turn out to be very progressive, as they want to change more in terms of free market thinking.

    Here comes the division "Conservative-Progressive" into place, which is mostly focused on the amount of radical change a political party is willing to achieve combined with the attitude towards certain civil/human rights (think for instance about gay marriage). In fact, the UK is quite unique with this, as the governing parties Tories and LibDems (foremost Tories) paved the way towards gay marriage in the entire UK, which is a typical example of being progressive, while actually supporting a right-wing party (Tories).


    The party I am member of in The Netherlands is D66:
    logo1.jpg
    They were founded in, indeed, 1966, when young people were asking for radical change in terms of state-structure and type of governance, so that it could result in a better functioning and better representative democracy.

    Anyway, as you can see in the graph, D66 is strictly centrist on the scale "Left-Right", whereas on the scale "Progressive-Conservative" D66 is very progressive. As compared to the UK, D66 (social/progressive liberal) can be seen as a sister party of the more cetrist/left-wing minded Liberal Democrats. VVD (conservative liberal) is also a sister party of Liberal Democrats, but they can be more compared with the right-wing parts of Liberal Democrats or the more progressive minded Tories.

    Now my question for you dear neighbours across the Channel ;-):
    Where would you place the party you have supported / will support today on the above graph? Please let me know.
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    JCRendle wrote: »
    Guys, please. Comparing them to a genocidal, antisemitic, racist, homophobic ideal that killed millions is quite offensive.

    can we call Godwins law?
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    JCRendle wrote: »
    Guys, please. Comparing them to a genocidal, antisemitic, racist, homophobic ideal that killed millions is quite offensive.

    can we call Godwins law?
    I'd say it's apt
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