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Really though, TND & SP are so high on my list because of the sheer fun factor.
I actually prefer the DN/FRWL/TLD/LTK/QOS kind, but I can make room for lighter (Leiter) Bond entertainment....
=))
then
This is odd. I really can't remember when I saw this first. Must've been when I was still in highschool. I remembering liking the PTS, ut that's fair enough, it's got fighter planes in it and at the time I was still craving for a career as fighter pilot. Other then that I've never been much of a fan of martial arts films, and I wasn't impressed by Yeoh. And, indeed @Birdleson, I couldn't care less about Tery. I did like Bond sitting there waiting for her. And I thought Carver was very well done. Properly over the top as so many of those media types are full of themselves. Fits perfectly.
Now
Well, Yeoh still isn't much and the chopper scene makes no sense. I don't like Brosnan's attempts at 'romancing' or caring. Somehow he manages to do fine in, say, the Thomas Crown Affair, but blows it with Tery and Yeoh. Still, the film has some redeeming qualities (still like the PTS) and then loses it again as Michelle totes two machineguns, fires clearly into the cealing and hence kills the Carver-helpers. And indeed, that BMW scene was terrible. Allthough I can imagine Bond not giving a damn about that boring car.
All in all I can't really decide, so I'll make it a tie.
Then-1
Now-3
Tie- 5
Recently however, I changed my mind. I really like this film. It's Brosnan's most confident turn as Bond. Pierce is sometimes at the verge of going over the top with the oneliners but they are mostly quite good (big difference here with his next two outings). The scene with Q makes me smile every time again.
Although they take it way too far, I do like the mass media plot. Pryce, Götze and Schiavelli are great villains, especially the latter. Furthermore, Wai Lin is one of the most competent Bond girls.
It also features Brosnan's best 'car scene' and it has a great score, possibly David Arnold's best.
It's no GE, but TND is standard Bond handled rather well.
Definitely now for me.
Then-1
Now-4
Tie- 5
Now - 4
Tie - 5
You forgot @BAIN123 and @ForYourEyesOnly's votes chaps
Then - 4
Now - 4
Tie - 5
Then - 5
Now - 4
Tie - 5
I'll give you the first one, i'm not a fan of the campier films. Diamonds Are Forever is a big offender when it comes to high camp in Bond. Connerys paunchy, bloated appearance didn't help the film either. But the second pint, the action, I don't have a problem with. Well, I don't have a problem with it, if the action keeps me watching, and/or if the camera hasn't been tethered and swung around.
It's quite good except for the melodramatic demise of Vesper (book end was better).
But TND was just a straightforward Bond film nothing more nothing less. The ending maybe a bit unfocused at times but still it's just Bond.
Then = 1
Now = 1
I really loved this when I first saw it. I was so taken by it as an impressionable 11 year old, although it didn't seem to come close to GoldenEye which I had bough on VHS the previous January. But PB seemed as cool, and I loved the action. But a few years later with the release on TWINE I quickly saw this as quite average.
I was really surprised how much I enjoyed TND when I got the blurays and had a Bondathon. I would now place it above TWINE. The second half is still just an hour long action scene but i was surprised by how contemporary the plot seemed with the phone hackings by News of the World etc.
A now.
Then - 5
Now - 5
Tie - 6
Pierce Brosnan impressed (and continues to impress) me as Bond in this one. In my opinion, it is his best turn in the role. He seems much more at ease this time around. Yes, they gave him some real clunkers for one liners, but his confidence and composure more than makes up for it. I'm not going to say that it's up there with the all time great performances but I certainly give credit where it's due. It's no secret that he could use some more appreciation around here.
Anyway, this one has steadily declined in my rankings throughout the years. To the point where it once reached the bottom three. I guess I wasn't in the mood for that distraction anymore and just couldn't overlook it's faults. What once seemed so fresh and modern in '97 now became stale and cliched. I actually enjoyed it a bit more on my most recent viewing but that second half is a killer. As many have mentioned before, the HALO jump is where this film takes a symbolic plunge into the depths of despair. The Brosnan era never fully recovered.
The whole Hamburg sequence is still entertaining though. I tend to catch myself tuning out the rest of the world for that wonderful distraction whenever it's on. I have to give this one a THEN.
Then - 6
Now - 5
Tie - 6
I mean common in the pejorative sense.
:))
I've always felt there was a bit too much gunfire there, but so freakin' what? I really think this is just a group mentality consensus.
Let's see...
These movies also suck because of too much of something:
DN- too much Jamaica.
FRWL- too much on a train.
GF- too much time at Goldfinger's.
TB- too much underwater stuff.
YOLT- ah, too much gunfire.
OHMSS- too much snow.
etc, etc...
All Brosnan's Bond did was duck a few thousand bullets.
Is either really sillier or more insulting than the other?
BTW I'm a fan of BOTH.
:D
Then - 6
Now - 6
Tie - 6
You're not alone. She's my favorite Brosnan-era Bond girl and my favorite Lois Lane.
As for TND, it was the first "standard formula" James Bond film made post-AVTAK but was fun to have a traditional "tick the box" entry for the first time in a long while and it ticked the formula boxes nicely. I prefer CR and SPECTRE which came later but I still think TND is the least pretentious and most consistently successful Bond film of the 1990s. I might've liked it very slightly more when it was new but only very slightly. I haven't watched it a lot in recent years but then again I don't watch any of the Brosnan ones as much as I do the ones from the earlier 1962-1987 period and since it hasn't dropped by a large margin I'll give it a tie rating.
Then - 6
Now - 6
Tie - 7
Now - 7
Tie - 7
It's really gotten closer to GE in my appreciation.
And now, on to the next Bondian epic...
The World Is Not Enough
Then –
My first experience of seeing Mr Bond in the cinema. I was blown away. Here was an anti-hero, who was just so cool. The way Brosnan/Bond carried himself, that sense of purpose, sense of self, and inner calm, was a revelation to a shy, quiet 12 year old boy. After this, I was a Bond fan. After this, I was determined to catch the rest of the series.
Now –
I was surprised that people did not share my love for The World Is Not Enough. In fact, it took me a while to get used to the vitriol that people expunged on this film.
Over time, I started to see Brosnan's animation, or Denise Richard's unsuitably, and the melodramatic scenes. Yet, I still find The World Is Not Enough to be a worthy Bond film - the overall premise is inspired and all the Bondian attributes abound and in novel fashion.
Then - 1
Now -
Tie -
This was my first Bond cinema experience. So I'm little touchy about this film. Ergo, if anyone disagrees with me, I shall throw my toys out of the pram, and refuse to take part in any discussion hencewith. Nay, I shall quit the forum!!!!
Didn t care to see this in the cinema, but rented it on home video as I am always curious about Bond no matter what.
Same as TND, damn unmemorable. Wish they had stuck to the original idea, instead of letting that stupid test audience decide the Bilbao pts was unimpressive.
For me, had that bank scene been it, it would have been among the best pre title sequences, it was the highlight of the Brosnan era. Then they had to add that stupid Thames sequence and the even more stupid film itself. Except the mts and song and Denise.
Then - 1
Now -
Tie -1
As bad now as then.
Shocking. Positively shocking.
Then - 2
Now -
Tie -1
Not sure which is worse, this or the Daredevil spinoff that eventually got that title.
Good thing Skyfall is an Autobot and not a Decepticon...