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  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    QBranch wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    It's all rather pedestrian isn't it? Quite unfortunate. As if it was written by some novice who assumed this would pass as quality dialogue.

    Hopefully they give us something far more impressive in this department after the long four year wait, even if it will be more difficult to translate all the nuances into multiple foreign languages.
    I love Spectre, but some of that earlier dialogue is repetitive and uninspiring. Reminds me of all the "to the point/get the point/point taken" nonsense from DAD.
    That is an excellent comparison actually, and that's not the only thing about the last film that reminds me of Brozza's final entry either, sadly.

    I definitely noticed the repetitive nature during my first viewing in the theatre (dialogue is a big thing for me, which is why TB, despite its flaws, remains my #2 Bond film). They really need to get someone better in to polish this up for B25. This is not P&W's forte.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I definitely noticed the repetitive nature during my first viewing in the theatre (dialogue is a big thing for me, which is why TB, despite its flaws, remains my #2 Bond film). They really need to get someone better in to polish this up for B25. This is not P&W's forte.
    TB really is a great film for dialogue. The exchanges between Bond and Largo are most memorable. The writers should study it.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I suppose the trivia buffs would know this, but I only just realized: Casino Royale the novel was published in 1953, and in the 2006 film we see the key ring that Dimitrios leaves for Carlos is the number 53.

    https://screenmusings.org/movie/dvd/Casino-Royale/images/Casino-Royale-0534.jpg
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    Ooh, very good spot! If I noticed that at all, I probably thought it was a reference to Herbie the Love Bug :)
  • barryt007barryt007
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    QBranch wrote: »
    I suppose the trivia buffs would know this, but I only just realized: Casino Royale the novel was published in 1953, and in the 2006 film we see the key ring that Dimitrios leaves for Carlos is the number 53.

    https://screenmusings.org/movie/dvd/Casino-Royale/images/Casino-Royale-0534.jpg

    Well that never occurred to me ,I didn't give it another thought.

    Well done Q,it's so obvious when you stop to think about it !!

  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Yep, CR just keeps getting better. Amazing film. I hope B25 is more in tone with it.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    We can but pray !!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    The very reason I started going to church.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    See how desperate we are ? Even praying in Church for B25 to be good haha !!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    I like SF and SP, but am quite keen for a more adventurous, espionage-y film now.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    QBranch wrote: »
    I like SF and SP, but am quite keen for a more adventurous, espionage-y film now.

    Same here..mission based,a one-off proper Bond villain and henchman,and NO emotional baggage.


  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    and NO emotional baggage.
    Even Solitaire can't see that far into the future :))
    barryt007 wrote: »
    a one-off proper Bond villain and henchman
    You liked Hinx though, right? He was great. Looking forward to seeing his thumbnails in Bond's face.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    QBranch wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    and NO emotional baggage.
    Even Solitaire can't see that far into the future :))
    barryt007 wrote: »
    a one-off proper Bond villain and henchman
    You liked Hinx though, right? He was great. Looking forward to seeing his thumbnails in Bond's face.

    I did indeed....the train fight I thought was brilliant..i couldn't believe CraigBond was getting the crap beaten out of him by Hinx .
    I was stunned.

    The only thing that annoyed me was Bond didn't have a mark on him afterwards,which again was lazy to me.

  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Yes, on one hand I can see why he had no marks on him, a throwback to the earlier Roger films perhaps, but it's not keeping in line with CR/Craig-Bond, whose white tux would have split shoulder seams, blood splattered all over it etc. I think if he were a bloody mess, it would have made the "what do we do now?" exchange more effective.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Talking of CR, is it sad that I have 5 copies of it?

    1967 DVD
    1967 Blu-ray
    2006 Standard American edition Blu-ray
    2006 UK Edition Blu-ray
    2006 Special Deluxe American Blu-ray
  • barryt007barryt007
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Talking of CR, is it sad that I have 5 copies of it?

    1967 DVD
    1967 Blu-ray
    2006 Standard American edition Blu-ray
    2006 UK Edition Blu-ray
    2006 Special Deluxe American Blu-ray

    The 1967 travesties yes.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Talking of CR, is it sad that I have 5 copies of it?

    1967 DVD
    1967 Blu-ray
    2006 Standard American edition Blu-ray
    2006 UK Edition Blu-ray
    2006 Special Deluxe American Blu-ray

    The 1967 travesties yes.

    Oh, come on. :D Yes, the film has the Bond name, but that's where the similarities end. I like to enjoy it as a non-nonsensical comedy. Much like I enjoy you @barryt007. Just kidding.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Let's get back on topic please folks. Thanks.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Yes, on one hand I can see why he had no marks on him, a throwback to the earlier Roger films perhaps, but it's not keeping in line with CR/Craig-Bond, whose white tux would have split shoulder seams, blood splattered all over it etc. I think if he were a bloody mess, it would have made the "what do we do now?" exchange more effective.

    I love the DAF pts in which Bond does a somersault after pulling the cord and dropping the mustard mud. The stuff splatters everywhere, including on Bond, on the floor...and then he leaps up and there isn't a spot on him. (He also dried off very quickly after the pool dive with Bambi and Thumper).

    Speaking of Bambi and Thumper, their names remind me of Bond's "Mickey Mouse" line in SP. Are there other Disney references in the films?
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    I think I've written this before. For no reason at all, in Spain they are called Bambi and... Pluto!
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    There is the Prince Charming setup to the "this never happened to the other fellow" line.
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  • TokolosheTokoloshe Under your bed
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    QBranch wrote: »
    I suppose the trivia buffs would know this, but I only just realized: Casino Royale the novel was published in 1953, and in the 2006 film we see the key ring that Dimitrios leaves for Carlos is the number 53.

    https://screenmusings.org/movie/dvd/Casino-Royale/images/Casino-Royale-0534.jpg

    I understand this is a double reference, both to the year of 53 and the film being made 53 years later.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I was watching Lethal Weapon 2 the other day, when I noticed that some of the musical cues seemed to sound familiar. Upon seeing that Michael Kamen scored both this film and Licence To Kill it became clear.
    I'm sure someone has mentioned it in the past???
    Similarly GoldenEye and Leon: The Professional have similar musical cues. Both of course scored by Eric Serra.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Tokoloshe wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    I suppose the trivia buffs would know this, but I only just realized: Casino Royale the novel was published in 1953, and in the 2006 film we see the key ring that Dimitrios leaves for Carlos is the number 53.

    https://screenmusings.org/movie/dvd/Casino-Royale/images/Casino-Royale-0534.jpg

    I understand this is a double reference, both to the year of 53 and the film being made 53 years later.

    I never noticed that, cool!
    barryt007 wrote: »
    We can but pray !!

    I only pray on small animals.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Benny wrote: »
    I was watching Lethal Weapon 2 the other day, when I noticed that some of the musical cues seemed to sound familiar. Upon seeing that Michael Kamen scored both this film and Licence To Kill it became clear.
    I'm sure someone has mentioned it in the past???
    Similarly GoldenEye and Leon: The Professional have similar musical cues. Both of course scored by Eric Serra.

    I've never been a fan of Kamen. I find his scores all sort of sound the same. It works ok in big action films like Lethal Weapon and Die Hard but only as background music.

    Apart from a couple of cues his score for LTK is the weakest Bond score of all.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    Benny wrote: »
    I was watching Lethal Weapon 2 the other day, when I noticed that some of the musical cues seemed to sound familiar. Upon seeing that Michael Kamen scored both this film and Licence To Kill it became clear.
    I'm sure someone has mentioned it in the past???
    Similarly GoldenEye and Leon: The Professional have similar musical cues. Both of course scored by Eric Serra.

    That was me Leonard,after watching Lethal Weapon 2 as well...so so similar.



  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Tokoloshe wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    I suppose the trivia buffs would know this, but I only just realized: Casino Royale the novel was published in 1953, and in the 2006 film we see the key ring that Dimitrios leaves for Carlos is the number 53.

    https://screenmusings.org/movie/dvd/Casino-Royale/images/Casino-Royale-0534.jpg

    I understand this is a double reference, both to the year of 53 and the film being made 53 years later.

    That is how I saw it as well. Probably no coincidence.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Tokoloshe wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    I suppose the trivia buffs would know this, but I only just realized: Casino Royale the novel was published in 1953, and in the 2006 film we see the key ring that Dimitrios leaves for Carlos is the number 53.

    https://screenmusings.org/movie/dvd/Casino-Royale/images/Casino-Royale-0534.jpg

    I understand this is a double reference, both to the year of 53 and the film being made 53 years later.
    Nice. I didn't notice that 53 year gap, even after typing out both dates! 8-} :))
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Benny wrote: »
    I was watching Lethal Weapon 2 the other day, when I noticed that some of the musical cues seemed to sound familiar. Upon seeing that Michael Kamen scored both this film and Licence To Kill it became clear.
    I'm sure someone has mentioned it in the past???
    Similarly GoldenEye and Leon: The Professional have similar musical cues. Both of course scored by Eric Serra.

    That's a sort of common thing amongst composers, I've noticed, at least ones with a particular sound. I can up bits and pieces of future film scores in some early John Williams, for example, in little moments here and there.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Batman and The Simpsons.
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